Real Street Racing

[Tercel_driver]

I mean, it should rock big! U know, street racing ala GT3 is illegal in many places but u just have to be careful in doing that. From where I came, I used to see a lot of illegal street racing. These people usually congregated at the beach tracks. We have a very nice track near the Beach in Peru. It is a very long track, and people use it as a accelerating test track (u know.. what car goes faster) And the most common car u used to see racing was the Honda Civic Type-R, Nissan Maxima, and cars u would never believe they race! Like those Daihatsu mini-cars. I am just asking if u have been part of it, or seen it.

 

[f1king]

Well if your asking if there should be street racing in GT3 well, it is kinda like street racing allready.

 

[-Fred-]

I wonder where you saw a Civic Type-R in Connecticut...

and Streetracing's dumb. I lost a friend because of that.

 

[Tercel_driver]

Hey Punk Rock, yes u are right, there is no street racing in CT, but I said before, where I came from... I wasnt born here. I am from Lima, Peru. And If u went to the beaches of the South in Lima, u would see a lot of street racing.

Street Racing is not dumb, the dumb would be u if u:
a- You are drunk
b- You didnt checked ur braking system of ur car before.



peace

 

[-Fred-]

Originally posted by Tercel_driver
[B

Street Racing is not dumb, the dumb would be u if u:
a- You are drunk
b- You didnt checked ur braking system of ur car before.



peace [/B]

street racing is dumb. Period. the racetracks admission fees are cheap enough not to do so...

Street racing is dumb if:
a-you are drunk
b-you aren't drunk
c-you watched that gay ass movie
d-you think it's cool


try to imagine you're racing at 100 mph or so, and all of a sudden a car comes out of nowhere in front of you, or you hit a debris on the street, and hit a pole... I'm sorry, but street racing is dumb.

I used to streetrace when i started driving. I too, thought it was cool. but when my friend died after his Mustang hit a tree at 90 mph, i changed my mind.

Trust me, if you experience something similar, you'll feel the same way afterwards.

 

[f1king]

I still think its cool!

 

[Tercel_driver]

I dont think u understand. U actually have to be there and see the track. The track that I am talking about has no trees, no other cars, no debris at the very night. It is a very long and straight road like the test track so there is no chance that:

a-U crash, specially with a tree
b-debris, as I said before

The only thing U have to worry is about

a-The Police
b-Make a big embarrassment , U know, like my Mini-Cooper is better than ur Supra!


Peace

 

[BrianCNorton]

street racing is another way of saying

"I have neither the talent nor the technical expertise, nor the business ability to race, so I will pretend that I do by being reckless and endangering myself and those around me."

Street racers are criminals, on par with drive by shooters.

 

[venzent]

In my opinion streetracing is indeed dumb and stupid. Not because you can crash or something, but you put the live of other people (public) in danger. I used to race with my Suzuki TL1000S streetbike, but always on the circuit, when something happens you end in the gravel and you're not risking another persons life. The other guys on the track are as well at free will there and know wich risk to take.

 

[MazKid]

Say you don't have money for a racing team, or time to travel to the tracks in other states. Then you street race. Me and my brother do it all the time on the way home from school, going 90+ sometimes in a 55 zone. and we've gone 75 in a 35. I find it very fun if you know what you're doing. And my brother hasn't crashed into anything in his 2+ years of driving, and most of that time was spent street racing home from school. And he's only had a ticket, and it was because it was dark out side and a guy flew past him and the cop thought that it was him. You just have to be smart, you see anything on the top of a car you slow down. It's sorta a national past time. If they didn't want us street racing, why did they make fast cars?

Now if you lose a lot, then I see why you say it's dumb.

And my brother has talent when it comes to driving. He knows how to beat other people when they have faster cars. And he never quits, and never will quit. And my dad races sometimes. even my mom does in our MPV. And I will be racing Geos everywhere in my 323.

Now the street racing where it's like a from a stop drag race, I don't really like that style, it's too organized. The way we race is from a go, with the other person guessing when to start. It's very funny to beat a guy in a Jetta 10 times, and he still wants to race.

 

[venzent]

I hope 1 day you have kids of your own.See how you think about the guys that fly by with 70+ while your kids are playing a couple of feets away from it, out of sight or behind cars. Then you probably will see how stupid it is. Drunk people also say that they drive very safe when they are drunk and never had an accident before, untill it happens and then they are sorry.

 

[captainkirk]

I think there should just be places designated for people that like to race. I know people aren't rich and can buy expensive engines and cars, but people should just use common sense when it comes to something like this. I used to have a little truck I put a small block into, I knew lots of people that wanted to race me, but I wouldn't do it. I don't want to cause trouble or anything. That is just my opinion.

As far as the movie goes.... You would think that a car would pull into the street that they were drag racing on. They seemed to leave out that reality. I have heard too many times about people going too fast, losing control, and rolling the car and/or hitting trees and poles. Go to the drag strip.

 

[MazKid]

Originally posted by captainkirk
I think there should just be places designated for people that like to race. I know people aren't rich and can buy expensive engines and cars, but people should just use common sense when it comes to something like this. I used to have a little truck I put a small block into, I knew lots of people that wanted to race me, but I wouldn't do it. I don't want to cause trouble or anything. That is just my opinion.

As far as the movie goes.... You would think that a car would pull into the street that they were drag racing on. They seemed to leave out that reality. I have heard too many times about people going too fast, losing control, and rolling the car and/or hitting trees and poles. Go to the drag strip.

A designated place....the road. It's called STREET racing. And the movie was fake. Remember the part where the floor board of the Eclipse fell out? And then the guy was being chased by the other people and he jumped into the passenger seat of the Eclipse, and put his feet where the floor board shouldn't have been. It was a stupid movie. Gone in 60 sec was a lot better. Same with Bullit.

And about the drunk people, they have no excuse at all. And about the kids playing thing: that's why you race on the highway or unhabited roads. We don't go racing down our street(well, my dad's gone about 80 on his motorcycle, but that's not the point here), we race where there are no houses, no kids, no people. And about rolling a car, you'd have to be stupid to get your car to flip, like hitting a parked car or a curb. And about the kids thing again: My dad always drove fast with us in or out of the car. When I went to sunday school, he'd pull out of the parking lot with his '82 Maxima sideways. He never lost it or wrecked, because he knows what he's doing. You just have to know the limits of the car and yourself. And nothing you say will stop people from killing themselfs and other's, but you can make sure that you aren't the cause.

 

[f1king]

I wouldnt say that street racing is a crime. But I guess if you kill or injur someone that its assualt with deadly weapon. I think its ok to street race, and believe it or not some of these guys have some real talent. When I was in HS years ago we race not only in straight lines but we race on twisty roads where you have to break and accelarate out of corners and all that, and most of us went to racing schools. So some have talent.

 

[BMW POWER]

i have to say that street racing is a waste of time, you are endangering yourself and the general public. i know people say that its cool and you get a lot of respect for it. but what good is respect when you go off the road at 100mph into a tree. there are organised trackdays where you can bring your car down and race it, either round a circuit or in a drag race. i know you have to pay but what would you rather do: pay a little bit of money for a controlled environment to race in or do it illegally and risk your life.

 

[f1king]

Well you have a point.

 

[Ih8Ricers]

If you have ever raced on a real track, youd realize it is far, far more enjoyable than any road. At the track, you realize that if you push it too far, you find dirt and gravel patches. The rush of totally driving all out on a circuit is incomparable to a mere street.
You let it all go, because you *stupid drivers exempt* most likely will walk away from any major mishap.

And street racing IS stupid: blasting down uninhabited roads with poor maintenance miles from any hospital. You have any idea how many of my tax dollars go into replacing telephone poles that the idiot street racers collide with on a weekly basis? Some go years before "The Big One" but they all change their ways. Hopefully they'll all die before they smack into me. Just the sound of their 4" exhausts makes my entire neighborhood cringe. Like a 100ton farting squirrel non-stop at 3 AM.

 

[MazKid]

Originally posted by Ih8Ricers
If you have ever raced on a real track, youd realize it is far, far more enjoyable than any road. At the track, you realize that if you push it too far, you find dirt and gravel patches. The rush of totally driving all out on a circuit is incomparable to a mere street.
You let it all go, because you *stupid drivers exempt* most likely will walk away from any major mishap.

We don't have mishaps...

And street racing IS stupid: blasting down uninhabited roads with poor maintenance miles from any hospital. You have any idea how many of my tax dollars go into replacing telephone poles that the idiot street racers collide with on a weekly basis?

We're not idiots, and we haven't crashed into anything. And the streets we race on are in good condition, and fairly close to a hospital.

Some go years before "The Big One" but they all change their ways. Hopefully they'll all die before they smack into me. Just the sound of their 4" exhausts makes my entire neighborhood cringe. Like a 100ton farting squirrel non-stop at 3 AM.

We won't change our ways, and we won't hit you so don't worry. And our cars are stock, stock exust, stock rims. The only mods my brother has made were putting Nitto tires on, a Mazda factory CD player, Mazda factory driving lights from Holland, and Brembro(is it bro or bo?)brake rotors on the front. I wouldn't call that ricer like...

A lot of the people don't understand the kind of racing we do. It's not your classic "strait down the street" racing that is always on cop shows. It's more of lane changes. Someone tries to pass us and we race them until they have to get over. The only close car we've had was a tracktor trailor pulling across the road and into our lane, then we got into the other lane and passed him. It's all harmless. If there are too many people on the road, we don't race.

It acually builds skill in emergency situations. And it also allows you to get ready if you wanted to get into real racing.

I don't know if you guy are aiming this at me cause I keep posting here or what, just giving my thoughts/facts...

 

[ZO6Racer]

I don't think street racing is stupid, or the people that do it are stupid. It is illegal, yes, but how many of you can say that you NEVER do anything illegal. Anyhow, what people mean by "Free country" is that you can "choose" to do anything you want, but the flipside of that you have to take into account the risks and consequences for yourself before you decide to do it. If someone got killed, They knew it was a possible risk before they mashed the accelerator. I have no opportunities for racing on a track within 100 miles of where I live. I don't have money or time to travel to one. And it's not that I don't have anything to race either, I certainly have. I happen to choose not to drag race in the middle of town where cops can see me. I DO race other people on deserted back roads in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night, but I'm good enough to know my and my machine's limitations and actions well enough not to wreck my precious ride. I love my ride as much as the air I breathe, I'm not stupid about pushing it past it's limits. Anyhow, all i'm saying is that there are a lot of things you can do, you just have to decide for yourself which ones you actually do.

 

[Sertsa]

I'll be brief. I do like racing, but don't think it should be done on public streets, there's simply too much that can go wrong. And, from most of the street drag races I've seen, a lot of those people probably don't know how to handle a car when approaching its limits.

If you want to race and are in the US, check out the SCCA:

http://www.scca.org

They're probably not going to make a heavily cliched movie around the culture of what goes on at SCCA events, but they're still much cooler, I think.

 

[skynyrd]

Like Z06 said, for a lot of people there is no track nearby to race on. The only tracks near me are roughly 30 and ~45 miles away, and they are both short banked dirt oval tracks, which can be a very bad thing to race on in a normal car. Then you've got the drag strip, which is about 35 miles away. Then you've got the nearest SCCA thing about 75 miles away, and I think that group's disbanded or something.

All in all, that's a VERY long way to drive just to get a quick chance to race. By the time you get there, it's about time to turn around and go back home again, unless you want to stay overnight, which is probably a bad idea anyway (not many good hotels except in the larger cities around here).


I street race now and then, but I only do it at stoplights, and usually one of us obviously lurches ahead of the other one, and you can easily tell who's won and who's lost. And if it's a pretty even launch, I usually lose, since the car I drive has a very bad 35-65.

 

[Deathhawk]

Ok, some #'s. @ 120 MPH, asumming a 3/4 second reaction time.
(#'s courtasy of the AMA. @ 100KM/H so I double the stopping distances... it would probably more like tripple)

46M (before you realise you have to break)
46m (before the impulse to break reaches your foot)
160m (Before you completely stop)

No imagine this: you are racing, a pedestrian steps out from the sidewalk to cross the road. you can't stop you kill them.

Unfortunately, its not the people in the cars that get killed most of the time, it is pedestrians.

And of course most street racing is not a huge arranged race like in F&F, it is two people that decide to race, so pedestrians, other cars ect, don't know they are racing...

 

[misnblu]

I drag race at the track, and I race on the street.
Racing on the street is very limited and the only reason I do so is someone like Mazdakid going in and out of traffic and creating havoc for everyone they are trying to get around.
I had to teach a couple of Hondas a lesson because they were doing this and you know what, they didnt like it one bit. They were toyed with and kept on racing even when I was done. We went through three traffic lights until I turned around.
Even today, there was a person trying to race me and I ignored him for two lights. Finally on the third light I left him in the dust after the first shift and all he could do once he passed me sometime down the road was to shrug his shoulders and wave both his arms up in disgust.
When I drive my z24, I drive very sedately and even slower than my beater Ford Fairmont. Its funny that I drive 65 on the interstate in the z24 and over 70 in the ford, so I guess you could say I respect the street and street racing.
Once again, Mazda kid, Im not dissing your comment on what you said about your racing style (It's more of lane changes. Someone tries to pass us and we race them until they have to get over.), but just making a statement of too much fast and the furious.
What you do is dangerous, more so than just straight line runs.
Now that Ive upset the balance of this thread, Ill be on my way.
Oh, when I did race today or most anyother day on the street (which is very rare), I do only to the speed limit of the street Im on. Its my way of saying if I cant get you in that amount of time, theres no use to trying to catch up. Besides, the cops cant ever pull you over when your going the speed limit.
Misnblu

 

[Josh]

I street race. I race 1 to 2 other cars to the speed limit, and it ends there. I don't go over the speed limit. Racing up to 120-140 isn't racing, it's just speeding and seeing who has a higher top speed. Sure, racing to the speed limit is still dangerous, but not as dangerous as going 30-50 over the limit...

 

[stereth]

It acually builds skill in emergency situations.

actually, in general, street racing creates emergency situations in places that are not equipped to deal with it. I mean, I'll take off the line at a light in my minivan and beat the Mustang next to me to 65, or take that 25 mph exit ramp at 50...the ramp I know better than the hall to my bedroom. just enough to feel a pull and a lean outside. that's as far as i go.

just because you haven't hit anything in your year of street racing doesn't mean you'll survive your next time out. i haven't gotten pulled over for anything in two and a half years of driving *nok nok nok* but I still take it easy on the road.

 

[Deathhawk]

Originally posted by Josh
I street race. I race 1 to 2 other cars to the speed limit, and it ends there. I don't go over the speed limit. Racing up to 120-140 isn't racing, it's just speeding and seeing who has a higher top speed. Sure, racing to the speed limit is still dangerous, but not as dangerous as going 30-50 over the limit...

you easily hit 100MPH in a 1/4 mile drag race....

 

[HexenLord]

You guys dont see the point. Sure the drag strip is safe, but its no fun... Late night highway racing, thats where the thrills are. Racing on small roads where children play is just... completely gay, dont ever put another life in danger other then your own if you are racing. Ive been street racing since I was 14, racing in my dads dodge challenger... then at 16, moving up to his camaro...
Ive won up to 13000 dollars a night in street racing. There are people out there with serious money and hot cars. You wont get much unless you are near a big city. There are illegal street racing rings at San Diego, San Fransisco, New York, Miami, Cincinnati, Sacramento, Orlando, Myrtle Beach, Detroit(Major Muscle up there), and a few other cities... You can make some major cash too.

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by HexenLord
You guys dont see the point. Sure the drag strip is safe, but its no fun... Late night highway racing, thats where the thrills are. Racing on small roads where children play is just... completely gay, dont ever put another life in danger other then your own if you are racing.

That's of great comfort to someone who regularly does overnight drives on country roads. I'm sitting on cruise at the limit minding my business and suddenly I've two clowns road-racing in my lap - fantastic...

 

[Deathhawk]

Originally posted by vat_man


That's of great comfort to someone who regularly does overnight drives on country roads. I'm sitting on cruise at the limit minding my business and suddenly I've two clowns road-racing in my lap - fantastic...

Right on!

I also object to the way you make ME look bad because I drive an import. Cops eye me everytime they are near!

 

[advanR]

Originally posted by Deathhawk
Ok, some #'s. @ 120 MPH, asumming a 3/4 second reaction time.
(#'s courtasy of the AMA. @ 100KM/H so I double the stopping distances... it would probably more like tripple)

46M (before you realise you have to break)
46m (before the impulse to break reaches your foot)
160m (Before you completely stop)

Great way of illustrating the facts. You should also take into consideration that at night, which it is often, you cant see very far, so you can basically subtract your stopping distance from the range of your headlights and see what kind of mess can happen.

Street racing IS dumb.

if you want to do some REAL racing, for cheap, than find a local autocross event. this likely wont be fun for the "street racing type", as it actually involves turning and speeds usually dont reach 60mph, so in that case go find a drag strip.
or go rent F+F, or this new bmovie f+f ripoff called "fear of speed" i downloaded the trailer and it looks hilarious