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I don't know yet, I believe a 48, or 49.
[Registration Open] Pennzoil Platinum Cup Series (Saturday Night!!!)Open
- Thread starter Cole Brown
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- Brown352
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What happened this morning, there is no room for in this league. From anyone whether this is your first time on the GtPlanet, or if it is your second year on GtPlanet. I have to show this league is serious, and these kinds of instances are not acceptable in any way, from any body in the Pennzoil Championship Series.
There is no excuse for what happened from either driver. @TonyStert, your new, I understand you wanted to defend yourself. But there is a time and place to do so, I was the same way when I was new. What you said was inexcusable, but from what I gathered during your conversation. You are sincerely sorry, sorry's don't mean much. But I am trusting you. don't let it happen again. The result of this is a four race probation period on accounts of abuse of another driver, and ignoring orders from race command. Direct rules violated are as follows on the PCS OLR. 01.D You are expected to drive responsibly in a way that’s not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of your fellow drivers, 01.F You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen at all times, 01.J If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver must have a valid reason for leaving. Rage quitting will result in 0 points for the race, regardless of bonuses, 02.B Leaving a race for any reason other than a valid reason that is told by the driver to a race official or the race director is considered rude and disrespectful. Doing so can result in Probation, suspension or a ban. Not talking things out lead to drama, 03.A Don't be disrespectful regardless of any issues 03.D If any issues arise, between drivers, both drivers will come talk to the designated race official, and a moderator in private, 03.E No off track Banter - Could Result in Probation, a Suspension or Ban
Now @trobes29, you are not new. You are aware of the GtPlanet OLR, and ours. I know in these kinds of situations you want to defend yourself. But you should know better after have running more than 4 series, as well as participating in many others. As much as I like you, you still did break rules in your retaliation to to Tony. In doing so. You will be put on a 2 Race Probation period for directly breaking the PCS OLR. Direct Rules Violated are as follows. 01.F You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen at all times, 03.A Don't be disrespectful regardless of any issues 03.D If any issues arise, between drivers, both drivers will come talk to the designated race official, and a moderator in private, 03.E No off track Banter - Could Result in Probation, a Suspension or Ban. I know this may make you angry, and you have other options, and as you said yesterday, this series is what your DTM series is for Bambi. But if you have problems, please message me.
On to a much lighter note,
Ridgid-10-Car also left the race without a given reason. You will be given a warning and one race probation period. Direct rule violated is 01.J If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver must have a valid reason for leaving. Rage quitting will result in 0 points for the race, regardless of bonuses, 02.B Leaving a race for any reason other than a valid reason that is told by the driver to a race official or the race director is considered rude and disrespectful. Doing so can result in Probation, suspension or a ban. Not talking things out lead to drama,
@FootballFan48, you helped me create this league, you know the rules very well. But there were instances in the race last night where you exceeded track boundaries more than a couple of times. In doing so, I'm giving you a warning. Next race, close attention will be payed to your lines. Direct Rule violated. 01.H Cutting chicanes, "shorting", or breaking track boundaries on the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas
Lastly, @Harry6784. You are a very good driver, but it was found that there were a couple instances last night where you exceeded the racing boundaries, specifically in the latter half of the track. In doing so, I'm giving you a warning. Next race, close attention will be payed to your lines. Direct Rule violated. 01.H Cutting chicanes, "shorting", or breaking track boundaries on the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas
Upon further review of the incident between Mikkelhost1996 and TonyStert. Both were racing very hard, and very well at that. Blue flags should have been given more sparingly as it was seen that Tony had fresher tires, a faster straight line car and was not impeding the race of Mikkelhost1996. Neither driver is at fault, it will be classified as a racing incident. Nothing more
Everyone get ready for next week at Suzuka East! For the shortest race of the series for 100 Miles.
If anyone has any questions comments or concerns, don't be afraid to message me, or post on the thread.
There is no excuse for what happened from either driver. @TonyStert, your new, I understand you wanted to defend yourself. But there is a time and place to do so, I was the same way when I was new. What you said was inexcusable, but from what I gathered during your conversation. You are sincerely sorry, sorry's don't mean much. But I am trusting you. don't let it happen again. The result of this is a four race probation period on accounts of abuse of another driver, and ignoring orders from race command. Direct rules violated are as follows on the PCS OLR. 01.D You are expected to drive responsibly in a way that’s not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of your fellow drivers, 01.F You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen at all times, 01.J If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver must have a valid reason for leaving. Rage quitting will result in 0 points for the race, regardless of bonuses, 02.B Leaving a race for any reason other than a valid reason that is told by the driver to a race official or the race director is considered rude and disrespectful. Doing so can result in Probation, suspension or a ban. Not talking things out lead to drama, 03.A Don't be disrespectful regardless of any issues 03.D If any issues arise, between drivers, both drivers will come talk to the designated race official, and a moderator in private, 03.E No off track Banter - Could Result in Probation, a Suspension or Ban
Now @trobes29, you are not new. You are aware of the GtPlanet OLR, and ours. I know in these kinds of situations you want to defend yourself. But you should know better after have running more than 4 series, as well as participating in many others. As much as I like you, you still did break rules in your retaliation to to Tony. In doing so. You will be put on a 2 Race Probation period for directly breaking the PCS OLR. Direct Rules Violated are as follows. 01.F You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen at all times, 03.A Don't be disrespectful regardless of any issues 03.D If any issues arise, between drivers, both drivers will come talk to the designated race official, and a moderator in private, 03.E No off track Banter - Could Result in Probation, a Suspension or Ban. I know this may make you angry, and you have other options, and as you said yesterday, this series is what your DTM series is for Bambi. But if you have problems, please message me.
On to a much lighter note,
Ridgid-10-Car also left the race without a given reason. You will be given a warning and one race probation period. Direct rule violated is 01.J If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver must have a valid reason for leaving. Rage quitting will result in 0 points for the race, regardless of bonuses, 02.B Leaving a race for any reason other than a valid reason that is told by the driver to a race official or the race director is considered rude and disrespectful. Doing so can result in Probation, suspension or a ban. Not talking things out lead to drama,
@FootballFan48, you helped me create this league, you know the rules very well. But there were instances in the race last night where you exceeded track boundaries more than a couple of times. In doing so, I'm giving you a warning. Next race, close attention will be payed to your lines. Direct Rule violated. 01.H Cutting chicanes, "shorting", or breaking track boundaries on the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas
Lastly, @Harry6784. You are a very good driver, but it was found that there were a couple instances last night where you exceeded the racing boundaries, specifically in the latter half of the track. In doing so, I'm giving you a warning. Next race, close attention will be payed to your lines. Direct Rule violated. 01.H Cutting chicanes, "shorting", or breaking track boundaries on the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas
Upon further review of the incident between Mikkelhost1996 and TonyStert. Both were racing very hard, and very well at that. Blue flags should have been given more sparingly as it was seen that Tony had fresher tires, a faster straight line car and was not impeding the race of Mikkelhost1996. Neither driver is at fault, it will be classified as a racing incident. Nothing more
Everyone get ready for next week at Suzuka East! For the shortest race of the series for 100 Miles.
If anyone has any questions comments or concerns, don't be afraid to message me, or post on the thread.
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- trobes29
Quick question, how did I break rule 02.D? I never even participated in the race.
- 798
- Cincinnati, Ohio
- Brown352
That is the practice rule. While everyone else practiced more than twice this week and in the last week in an official lobby. You came the day before the race. While you were in one or two of the Recruiting/ testing lobbys. You never stayed for an extended period of time.
Edit: Added Rigid to the penalty list as well. Forgot to put him down as well.
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- Under the Hood
Can I get some clarification on what is considered "shorting" the track? My understanding was that two wheels should be on the track at all times.
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- Cincinnati, Ohio
- Brown352
That's my mistake Harry. Shorting, cutting or exceeding the track boundaries is defined as more than half of your car off of the track. As rumble strips are considered part of the track. That is added leeway. You only did it twice that I saw, I'll being going over race footage one more this weekend after it is no longer fresh in my mind so I am not looking for the same things. But you cut once towards the middle of the race coming to the hairpin, a little more than half of your car was over the right side rumble strip coming into the hairpin, the other was in a similar manner, but towards the end of the race, but once you came off of the strip, you partially lost control of the car and completely went through the grass in the hairpin. It was just a warning, nothing serious.
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- trobes29
But...I never raced, therefore I never broke a rule. "Practice in an Official lobby at least twice a week to be eligible for the two races that week". I didn't show up twice, therefore I wasn't eligible, therefore I didn't race. I want you to explain to me how that's breaking a rule.
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- Brown352
No you didn't race, you are correct. But you said twice you would. However, you never showed up or posted on the thread. So. That's why that is there.
You didn't race because you volunteered not to due to connection issues with Ty-Guy97. I was going to let you race, as you had every intention of doing so until the connection issue came up. The penalty was going to come up regardless. Plus, had you come to more practice sessions, you could have saw how the cars acted in various areas of the track, and the snafu with Tony wouldn't have happened, even though I did give you orders to throw flags when needed. So that is my mistake, I Guess I need to clarify that one more? Or make an additional one explaining this kind of circumstance? Lastly, Would you like to appeal it?
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- trobes29
Yes please, because you gave me permission at the time to race, without telling me there'd be a consequence from it, in fact you even told me I might be able to race anyway just because I'm me (Not to sound full of myself but that's pretty much how you put it).
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- trobes29
Nope, just the one that made absolutely no sense.
- 1,591
- Under the Hood
So back on topic, I did some testing at Suzuka East in each car to see how they stack up. Did about 5 laps in each car and was surprised by results:
Honda NSX Type R '02 - 50.659
Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 50.875
Audi 4.2 FSI R tronic '07 - 50.885
BMW M3 Coupe '07 - 51.230
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07 - 51.655
Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C '09 - 51.693
Honda NSX Type R '02 - 50.659
Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 50.875
Audi 4.2 FSI R tronic '07 - 50.885
BMW M3 Coupe '07 - 51.230
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07 - 51.655
Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C '09 - 51.693
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- Brown352
As I said, all cars are fairly equal. Maybe I'll keep the Ferrari for now, I did say earlier that the cars would be better at some tracks. Thanks for doing that Harry. Remember guys, these will not be race pace by any means. If you're running consistent low 52s or and mid 51s. You'll be good. Consistency will win the upcoming race.
Just practice, when you think you can't get anymore out of it. You find a way to push, and get a little more. Practice, you'll be fine.
By the way, I love your avi. That's perfect lol.
Practice makes perfect guys. Work on it!
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- ridgid-10-car
What a joke! Turn the penalties on man. Boundaries? You cannot have one person judge the driving and/or the racing strategy of another. That was like a kindergarten class. Blue flag's-(a little delayed), that should be under (racing 101). Sectors! "HUH"? You had to spend a third of the lap looking at the message board. All the unprecedented stipulations, rules and text flags took away any of the competitive racing the game was designed for. It certainly was not fun for me. That's why I play the GAME , to have fun!. Mr. Race Director and/or Mr. Race Official.
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- Brown352
Actually you only broke 2. Most rules are here as a guide. Most of the rules are common sense for a decent driver. As they are in any other series, or racing league. As for the Blue Flags, they weren't given sparingly, that is for sure. I'm sorry to here it wasn't fun, that is suppose to be one of the most important aspects of this League.
But none the less, You're a good driver, if that's the way you feel, so be it. If at any time you are looking for some serious racing on Gran Turismo, don't be afraid to come back. Would you like to know about the NASCAR series that will be held eventually? It will be comprised of Basic NASCAR rules, more suited for you judging by your picture.
Thank you
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Let's try not to burn the thread down today guys. @FootballFan48 will be in charge mostly, if @trobes29 wants to, he will help disperse any situation as well, as I know there is not much going on today in regards to the DTM, but only as long as it is handled in a very professional manner. As for everything else, Harry's testing from last night is reflected by my own and @JACKOLANTERN1 testing last night, and mine this morning, all cars have the ability to get into the 51s and low 52s. Goodluck guys. Practice!!!
Edit: Also, a revision to the schedule has been made. Instead of Daytona International Speedway, we will be racing at Daytona Road Course, this track has many opinions about it. As it is a hard track to drive, this race at the midpoint of the season will truly test skill and could be a turning point in the season for many drivers.
Edit: Also, a revision to the schedule has been made. Instead of Daytona International Speedway, we will be racing at Daytona Road Course, this track has many opinions about it. As it is a hard track to drive, this race at the midpoint of the season will truly test skill and could be a turning point in the season for many drivers.
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I would like to know did i do anything wrong i mean yeah he had better straight speed but i had better cornering speed so why isn't it allowed to divebomb :S (just curious)
edit: and a little confused
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- trobes29
Divebombing is generally frowned upon in racing, as it usually ends badly for 1 or both of the drivers involved.
Edit: Although your divebomb was unnecessary, a lapped car shouldn't of put you in that position to begin with anyway. I'd just look at it as a racing incident and move on.
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- Brown352
Not necessarily. You both had been driving clean, and very well for the 2 laps you guys were together. I wouldn't call what you did, Dive bombing. I can show you a video clip of me, and what I did is dive bombing. You both were just racing hard, that's why its being classified as a racing incident. From what I saw, you went into that corner as you had been doing, But Tony, took a higher line. Newer, and you both just collected each other and Tony spun into the grass with the little room that he did. If anything, you could have let up coming out of 1 into 2, to avoid pushing up into him, giving him the position.
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Hey guys, just to give a little update. Sorry I haven't been around for the past couple of days.
There will be a Official Practice lobby tomorrow, it will be more than than likely be through out the day. If you cannot attend, I understand. You will be able to race at Suzuka East though. Just remember to notify me if you can not attend the race. I'll be sending out reminder messages on PSN. Sorry I haven't been to active again guys. Hope we didn't lose anyone in the time being. But I hope everyone has had a good week and weekend. The season really starts this week and will continue for the next 5 weeks. It's going to be interesting to see who wins the championship. I think it will be down to the last race. That is what I am predicting right now at least. Hope to see all you guys tomorrow!!!
There will be a Official Practice lobby tomorrow, it will be more than than likely be through out the day. If you cannot attend, I understand. You will be able to race at Suzuka East though. Just remember to notify me if you can not attend the race. I'll be sending out reminder messages on PSN. Sorry I haven't been to active again guys. Hope we didn't lose anyone in the time being. But I hope everyone has had a good week and weekend. The season really starts this week and will continue for the next 5 weeks. It's going to be interesting to see who wins the championship. I think it will be down to the last race. That is what I am predicting right now at least. Hope to see all you guys tomorrow!!!
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