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Thank you for the correction, tune updated with oil change.
RIDOX Replica Garage-In Memory of TurnLeft-GT40,300ZX,F430,TVR,AEM S2000,Cizeta,TransAm Doug Nash
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ECLIPSE RIDOX Manabu Orido Supra 550PS
HOT VERSION TOUGE MAX
Tuned to replicate Eclipse Ridox Supra
Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
CAR : Toyota Supra RZ '97
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
Specs 550PS
Horsepower: 542 HP / 550 PS at 6400 RPM
Torque: 520.7 ft-lb at 4600 RPM
Power Limiter at : 96.3%
Weight: 1500 kg
Ballast : 162 kg
Ballast Position : 46
Weight Distribution : 53 / 47 - as in real life
Performance Points: 541
Spec 550PS at the Wheel / 616HP/625PS
Horsepower: 616 HP / 625 PS at 6600 RPM
Torque: 573.7 ft-lb at 4600 RPM
Power Limiter at : 99.3%
Weight: 1500 kg
Ballast : 162 kg
Ballast Position : 46
Weight Distribution : 53 / 47 - as in real life
Performance Points: 559
GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED ) - the real car has roll cage
Custom Rear Wing
Wing Mount Standard Type E
Wing Large Type C
Winglets Large Type E
Height -2
Width -12
Wheels : +1 Inch Up ENKEI RP03 in White Solid or
RAYS CE28N in Black Matte/Solid or RAYS TE37SL in Viper Red/Hemi Orange.
Car Paint : Super Red V / any Solid Red
Tuning Parts Installed :
Sports Computer
Semi Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold - ONLY FOR 616HP
Catalytic Converter Sports
Intake Tuning - ONLY FOR 616HP
High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Adjustable LSD
Twin Plate Clutch Kit
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Suspension - RS-R I-Shock / Ti2000 Coilover Damper
Visual Ride Height
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 80 80 or optional 100 100
Spring Rate: 16.00 14.00
Dampers (Compression): 2 4
Dampers (Extension): 7 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 4
Camber Angle: 2.0 1.3
Toe Angle: 0.02 0.09
Suspension - RS-R I-Shock / Ti2000 Coilover Damper
Visual Ride Height - Alternate Camber and ARB
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 80 80 or optional 100 100
Spring Rate: 16.00 14.00
Dampers (Compression): 2 4
Dampers (Extension): 7 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 5
Camber Angle: 2.3 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.02 0.09
LSD RS-R 2 Way
TRACK/TOUGE
Initial Torque : 18
Acceleration Sensitiviy: 30
Braking Sensitivity: 30
Aero
REAR = 20 ( MAX )
Brake Balance:
7/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 5/6, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/6 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
Manabu "MAX" Orido own daily driver, a JZA80 Supra tuned personally by the Professor himself. Built as a demo car as well for his tuning company RIDOX, the car has a carefully selected modification parts. Infos from Hot Version videos :
Turbo-Sard KKK3470 MOJ
Headers-Ridox
Exhaust-RS-R
Transmission-stock
Dampers-RS-R I-Shock Sports / Ti2000 Springs
Spring Rates-F16kg(896.lbs) R14kg(784.lbs)
Brakes-Project MU brake kit
Tires-Advan Neova AD07 F235/35R18 R265/30R18
LSD-RS-R
Other-Body Reinforcements / Roll Cage
Weight-3307.lbs / 1500kg
Bodykits for the Eclipse Ridox Supra is still available on sale from Varis Japan. The power figure has been mentioned in 2 different figure, 550PS and 600HP from different Hot Version videos. I have included the 550PS spec as base and optional calculated 550PS as wheel power, and 616HP/625PS as engine power - counting drivetrain loss. Weight distribution used real life figure on mild modified and stock Supra TT at 53/47. The added turbo kit and roll cage should even out the added weight and weight savings to reach 1500kg.
Suspension uses RS-R I-Shock Damper with Ti2000 16k/14k springs. I have tuned the damper to be soft but also firm on high speed cornering. The camber and ARB are available in 2 sets, feel free to try them and mix them if you wish. Gear ratio for the V161 Getrag 6 Speed MT ( 97-02 Supra Turbo ) is correct and needs no correction.
LSD is RSR, this time I set it on 2 way to give even balance when off and on throttle. The Ridox Supra should be good for winding road and high speed track. The tire has been listed as Advan AD07 / AD08 for street and touge ( Comfort Soft ), while on track the Ridox Supra uses Advan A048 S tire ( Sports Hard ) I tuned and tested the Ridox Supra at Midfield, Tsukuba, Big Willow and Fuji.
Advan AD07 or AD08 for Touge/Streets/Drift
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Advan A048 S Tire in the Rain, MAX ORIDO approve
Having had trouble getting the right power,now's the time for a little review.:-)
The supra's behaviour is quite similar to the lp-700 .With CS tyres put on,it just slides over and over...Seeing this you may think it's just tuning the bull with lower output,in fact there are more.B-)
This 625ps beast is surprisingly much more controllable than you would think.Given to the close-to-perfect 53:47 weight distribution,the car has merely tiny bit of oversteer when lifting off the throttle.Although it is not a perfectly neutral one like the Z06(yeah,it's just that I don't have much other than what others have said),it is quite driver-friendly,until you unleash its power.Every time you go full throttle below 120km/h,you are mostly guaranteed to taste some oversteer.It is triggered once you're between 2nd and 3rd gear.That speed on the straight makes it very tempting to put in power asap,and it doesn't have AWD system like lambo,so that really takes some time to get used to it.And the learning process can give quite of a frustration.
Overall,it has some pros and cons.If you ask I recommend it or not,certainly YES!!!Cuz it has an awesome look which can make you overlook all the hardship;-)lol.That aside,the car can teach you how to drive car,to rely on skills rather than taking advantage of the tendency of the car.Something can be learnt everytime you get in it.
That's all my experience after driving it for a moment with 625ps and CS tyres.Hopefully you guys enjoyed it somehow.:-P
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Nissan E-BNR32 Skyline GTR VSpec II '94
Tsukuba Best Motoring Lap Record
Tuned to replicate R32 GTR Vspec II
Comfort Medium (R) / Soft (F) or Comfort Soft ( F & R )
Tsukuba Best Motoring Lap Record
Tuned to replicate R32 GTR Vspec II
Comfort Medium (R) / Soft (F) or Comfort Soft ( F & R )
CAR : Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec II ( R32 ) '94
Tire : Comfort Medium ( Rear ) / Comfort Soft ( Front ) or Comfort Soft ( F/R )
Specs Dyno Power
Horsepower: 320 HP / 324 PS at 6500 RPM
Torque: 309.2 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.7%
Weight: 1500 kg
Ballast : 195 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 59 / 41 - used real life 59.x / 40.x
Performance Points: 463
Specs GT6 Power
Horsepower: 306 HP / 310 PS at 6800 RPM
Torque: 289.0 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1500 kg
Ballast : 195 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 59 / 41 - used real life 59.x / 40.x
Performance Points: 456
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Wheels : Standard Size Stock
Car Paint : Gun Gray Metallic or Bay Side Blue ( From standard R34 GTR '99 )
Tuning Parts Installed :
Intake Tuning
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Suspension - Nissan OEM Springs/Damper - Updated New Damper
Base Street/Track
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 135 135
Spring Rate: 3.83 4.31
Dampers (Compression): 4 3
Dampers (Extension): 2 9
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 0.9 1.1
Toe Angle: 0.06 0.13 - Optional front and rear zero toe 0.00
Original New Damper
Dampers (Compression): 4 3
Dampers (Extension): 7 9
Old Damper
Dampers (Compression): 3 4
Dampers (Extension): 8 8
Alternate Damper - Stable
Dampers (Compression): 3 2
Dampers (Extension): 8 5
USE STOCK LSD - BASE - Recommended OR
LSD NISSAN A-LSD Base 2 Way - OPTIONAL
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 5
Braking Sensitivity: 5
Rear
Initial Torque : 7 or 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 30
LSD NISSAN A-LSD Base 1.5 Way - OPTIONAL
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 5
Braking Sensitivity: 5
Rear
Initial Torque : 7 or 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 5
Brake Balance:
5/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/2, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/4 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
The BNR32 GTR VSpec II released in 1994 was the last changes made to the R32 GTR Skyline, made to commemorate the 4th consecutive Gr-A victories, the Vspec stands for Victory Spec. The previous Vspec ( version 1 ) was already an improvement to the original R32 GTR. A short summary of the changes :
V spec 1993.2.3
Sale at that time price: 5.26 million yen
Commemorating Gr-A 3 year successive victories, sale
* Total height +15 at 1,355mm
* Brembo Brake ( caliper and rotor )
Standard fitment of *BBS aluminum wheel
Tire size increase of *225/50-17 size
* Vehicle weight 1,500kg (increase of 20kg)
V spec II 1994.2.14
Sale at that time price: 5.29 million yen
Commemorating Gr-A 4 year successive victories, sale
Tire modification to larger width *245/45-17 size
Vspec II production number at 1,303 cars. The Vspec II has numerous mechanical changes compared to the stock R32. With 17in BBS wheels specially made for the car, wider 245 sticky tires, in addition to the 1st version of Vspec which include Brembo brakes, ATTESA-ETS PRO, Active LSD at the rear, lower suspension and stiffer damper tune. There has been reports of higher engine torque output.
The Vspec suspension spring rates of the real car 2.4kg/mm front and 2.7kg/mm rear. These values are too low in GT6, so I used the lowest at the front possible, and use the ratio to set the rear rate. The rate used are 3.83 / 4.31, with the damper tuned to provide fast response and good rotation on exit. The alternate damper is included with has softer rear damper to give different handling. Camber and toe also available in 2 set, one is the base and higher camber/toe is optional.
The car weight is 1500kg, with weight distribution using real life corner weights of Vspec II, at 59.4/40.6, this is the closest in GT6 can get with weight reduction stage 2 and 195kg ballast the front end. This should give the mild understeer traits of the real car and oversteer when pushed hard. Most R32 GTR has closer to 60/40 distribution, with R33 and R34 improving with less heavier front.
LSD is set in 2 way this time, with setup giving good amount of lock and low preload. An alternate LSD with 1.5 way arrangement also provided.
Tire base set is rear comfort medium and front comfort soft, while all around comfort soft is optional. I intentionally set the rear with comfort medium to give distinct handling characteristics of the real car, with oversteer tendency on the limit due to the different ATTESA-ETS PRO programming in the Vspec.
The R32 was mainly tested and tuned at Tsukuba and Apricot Hill. The real life record at Tsukuba was done in 1994, driven by Keiichi Tsuchiya, the R32 GTR Vspec II was capable of 1:06.77 lap time. The replica with High Camber suspension and 2 way LSD is capable of low 1:06s on CM/CS tire. While at Apricot Hill on Street Camber and 2 way LSD, CM/CS tire, 1:38s. Both replay has been included.
UPDATE : New Damper and stock LSD added as base, old damper still available as option.
UPDATE August 2016 : New Damper have been updated, the original new damper still available as option. The update was tested at Motegi East race intermediate seasonal.
Added additional specs with Dyno Power of stock R32 GTR with some miles ( about 50k km ), 320HP at flywheel using intake tuning.
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This is a fun car! It's not too fast, but it's absolutely no slouch either. I just had a very fun time testing it out at Ascari Race Resort and Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit. I went with the staggered tire setup of CS compound in the front and CM compound in the rear. Ridox provided two different camber setups. At first, I was not enjoying the higher camber setup at all. I changed my driving style a little bit on the corners and actually ended up setting the fastest lap of my Brands Hatch session with the higher camber setup. Still, I think I will leave the car on the base camber setup for the most part. They're on two different tabs.
The car accelerates very well and holds tight around higher speed turns. The Skyline GT-R's sure were impressive cars back in the day! Heck, they're still impressing me now. The transmission is definitely setup for more highway / high-speed tracks. At Brands Hatch I was mostly in 2nd & 3rd gears - only occasionally finding 4th gear. 5th was never a consideration. That shouldn't matter, considering the PP class you'd be racing this car in.
Brakes felt very good even though she's a tad on the hefty side at 1500kg. On the two tracks I ran, I never found myself in a situation where I had to put my foot to the floor. These disc brakes bite firm and slow the Skyline down promptly! 👍
Pete05
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@ALB123
Do you use MT or AT? The reason I ask is because, the RB26 engine in the R32 & R33 GT-Rs was never happy revving all the way to the redline & if you're a AT user you have no choice in the matter
If, on the other hand, you're like me & like choosing what gear when, my advice is to shift gears at 6800 - 7000rpm for the best results
👍
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Oh, I have always used MT since my first day of playing GT6. I need that extra level of control that using a manual transmission provides. It blows my mind how good WhoosierGirl is, considering she uses AT 99% of the time. Her times would be even lower if she was completely comfortable with an MT, I'm sure of it.@ALB123
Do you use MT or AT? The reason I ask is because, the RB26 engine in the R32 & R33 GT-Rs was never happy revving all the way to the redline & if you're a AT user you have no choice in the matter
If, on the other hand, you're like me & like choosing what gear when, my advice is to shift gears at 6800 - 7000rpm for the best results
Back to the Skyline GT-R... Thank you for pointing that out!! I meant to comment on what I felt was a very strange phenomenon - after 2nd gear this car just does not want to climb to the red line. Ridox's spec sheet does point out that maximum power is achieved at 6800 rpm, like you also pointed out. I agree with you 100%, once that tachometer needle hits 7 - you must shift. While I'm no stranger to automobiles that produce peak power well before their red line, what does come across as strange, with this particular car, is how the visual power curve provided to us in Car Settings shows a very smooth, gradual decline of HP once you hit the peak of 306hp, yet the car FEELS like there is just nothing left to give once you've passed 7000 rpm! It FEELS like power is nil at that point.
Its a very good thing that you pointed this out @Pete05 because some people like to wait until they see the little red shift light start blinking out of their peripheral vision. I've been known to rely on that blinking light myself, from time to time. 👍
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Glad you had fun
Be sure to drive it at Apricot Hill, I had so much fun as I tried to beat Audi TT-RS lap time there, which has similar weight but higher power. For R32 shift point, I usually push it to redline for 1st and 2nd ( 120kmh/74mph ), then on 3rd short shift it at 160+kmh/100mph and 4th at 190+kmh/119mph ( about 7K rpm ).
Did you drive with 2 way LSD ?
Pete05
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I think the sensation you're feeling after 7000rpm is the absence of torque. A lot of people get wrapped up in BHP figures & never give any consideration to the grunt available from using torque.Oh, I have always used MT since my first day of playing GT6. I need that extra level of control that using a manual transmission provides. It blows my mind how good WhoosierGirl is, considering she uses AT 99% of the time. Her times would be even lower if she was completely comfortable with an MT, I'm sure of it.
Back to the Skyline GT-R... Thank you for pointing that out!! I meant to comment on what I felt was a very strange phenomenon - after 2nd gear this car just does not want to climb to the red line. Ridox's spec sheet does point out that maximum power is achieved at 6800 rpm, like you also pointed out. I agree with you 100%, once that tachometer needle hits 7 - you must shift. While I'm no stranger to automobiles that produce peak power well before their red line, what does come across as strange, with this particular car, is how the visual power curve provided to us in Car Settings shows a very smooth, gradual decline of HP once you hit the peak of 306hp, yet the car FEELS like there is just nothing left to give once you've passed 7000 rpm! It FEELS like power is nil at that point.
Its a very good thing that you pointed this out @Pete05 because some people like to wait until they see the little red shift light start blinking out of their peripheral vision. I've been known to rely on that blinking light myself, from time to time. 👍
The way the power curve or torque curve or both drop away in some cars is an important factor to consider when trying to wring the most out of a given car.
AT users don't have a say in the matter and are restricted to changing up at the redline & I think there's a solution to that problem.
If PD would allow those that use AT to choose/type in a shift point, say 6800rpm in the GT-R mentioned, they wouldn't be at any handicap to a MT user.
I have a brother who gets his fingers tangled if he tries to use MT and, as a result, insists on AT. In some cars at certain tracks, he's a lot closer to my times than in & at others. If we're both driving a car that needs to go to the redline, that's when we're at our most competitive with each other. If the vehicle of choice suffers asthma from the peak BHP to the redline, he's handicapped by the AT & can't get near me. The BMW 120d is a perfect example.
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You are correct about the importance of torque, Pete. Sadly, PD gives us a really poor visual representation of torque and horsepower. I don't understand why it's impossible for PD to give us a big graph with clearly defined units and the rpm unit spaced evenly as well. But, even with the crude graph we can get a very good idea of the hp & torque curves. Again, I don't think either of the curves for the Skyline GT-R drop off very sharply, though I could be mistaken...
@Ridox2JZGTE - I only drove with the 2-way Limited Slip Differential. To be honest, I completely forgot about the optional 1.5-way LSD available. If I remember correctly, the only difference between the two was with the rear Decel setting...The 1.5-way drops the setting all the way down to 5. That could be interesting with that lively rear-end... I'll have to try and remember to give that setting some track time. Which do you prefer?
@Ridox2JZGTE - I only drove with the 2-way Limited Slip Differential. To be honest, I completely forgot about the optional 1.5-way LSD available. If I remember correctly, the only difference between the two was with the rear Decel setting...The 1.5-way drops the setting all the way down to 5. That could be interesting with that lively rear-end...
I'll have to try and remember to give that setting some track time. Which do you prefer?
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You are correct about the importance of torque, Pete. Sadly, PD gives us a really poor visual representation of torque and horsepower. I don't understand why it's impossible for PD to give us a big graph with clearly defined units and the rpm unit spaced evenly as well. But, even with the crude graph we can get a very good idea of the hp & torque curves. Again, I don't think either of the curves for the Skyline GT-R drop off very sharply, though I could be mistaken...
@Ridox2JZGTE - I only drove with the 2-way Limited Slip Differential. To be honest, I completely forgot about the optional 1.5-way LSD available. If I remember correctly, the only difference between the two was with the rear Decel setting...The 1.5-way drops the setting all the way down to 5. That could be interesting with that lively rear-end...
I prefer the 2 way
it still allows aggressive entry braking while the rear can stay stable. The 2 way works well with the alternate damper ( rear comp 2 ext 5 ). The 1.5 way has more rotation / turn in, but depending on the driver whichever his preference is.
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Ok...I'll definitely try it out - who knows? I might end up liking it better. Ya never know.
Ugh...I'm so upset. I decided to buy a third F40 and organize the setups of the cars. One car would be only US spec setups on the three tabs. The other two cars will be EU spec with various setups among the 6 available tabs (3 each car). Unfortunately, I forgot to write down the LSD settings that I preferred the most. I spent a few days testing the different LSD options available for that car. I even plan on using different LSD settings on a couple of tabs, but I need to start re-testing all of them to figure out which was my favorite setup. Hopefully I get lucky and remember it on my 2nd test...LOL!! Do you have a favorite setup for the Ferrari F40, @Ridox2JZGTE? Nobody else responded to my query.
I suppose the car isn't as popular as I thought it would be... 
Ugh...I'm so upset. I decided to buy a third F40 and organize the setups of the cars. One car would be only US spec setups on the three tabs. The other two cars will be EU spec with various setups among the 6 available tabs (3 each car). Unfortunately, I forgot to write down the LSD settings that I preferred the most. I spent a few days testing the different LSD options available for that car. I even plan on using different LSD settings on a couple of tabs, but I need to start re-testing all of them to figure out which was my favorite setup. Hopefully I get lucky and remember it on my 2nd test...LOL!! Do you have a favorite setup for the Ferrari F40, @Ridox2JZGTE? Nobody else responded to my query.
I suppose the car isn't as popular as I thought it would be...
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My favorite for the F40 is the EU Automotorsport mag with base LSD 30/36/36 and best motoring suspension.
Here is a quote of an old post with a replay at Red Bull Ring, it was great drive
Here is a quote of an old post with a replay at Red Bull Ring, it was great drive
Here is a lap at Red Bull Ring with the Ferrari F40 replica ( 471 HP Auto Motorsport Mag version ), the time is not bad at 1:43s on comfort soft tire, a very enjoyable driveNot as quick as the Gallardo SL, but still respectable pace considering the technological and time gap, a timeless classic, F40
The lap would be great for taking pics or just viewing pleasure.
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IB|Tour of Japan|Twin Ring Motegi Road Course (600PP, SS) - Winner
456PP, CS, Low Camber, 2 Way MLSD, BB: 5/3
Very well balanced car. It let you do a lot of things. 👍
No Aids, No ABS, Cockpit View, Headset.
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IB|Tour of Japan|Twin Ring Motegi Road Course (600PP, SS) - Winner
456PP, CS, Low Camber, 2 Way MLSD, BB: 5/3
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Very well balanced car. It let you do a lot of things. 👍
No Aids, No ABS, Cockpit View, Headset.
456PP vs 600PP CS vs SS, wow 
Did you mix the tire ( rear CM ) ? The R32 is a great car, I saw how Keiichi-san drove the the R32 like an FR car, rapid direction changes, oversteer on exit, and awesome braking entry
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I didn't mixed them.
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- danbojte
I'll try it.You should have and you would have had more fun
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Ahhh... Thank you! So, you like the base version (not the No Cats) versions. I'm a sucker for that extra horsepower.My favorite for the F40 is the EU Automotorsport mag with base LSD 30/36/36 and best motoring suspension.
Here is a quote of an old post with a replay at Red Bull Ring, it was great drive
I think I will keep one tab with the 471 HP setup.
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Just a picture from a test lap at Fuji, 1:54s lap on CS, just a few tenths quicker than the real life lap record at 1:54.60. The car was pushed right on the limit throughout the lap, staying clean and not as aggressive like a TT lap, just smooth hot lap like Best Motoring real lap would be.
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Ooh! I look forward to an LFA replica build! It's too bad the car didn't get much love in real life. The car sounds so awesome when the revs are high and the car is moving at speed. You've got me all excited for it... 👍
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4 hours. That's what I've just spent running my various Ferrari F40 builds and my Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione around the Nordschleife. My tshirt is soaked in sweat! 
I don't know how, but I ran into an old conversation here in the Garage where you gave a visitor instructions on how to soften the 599XX for the Nordschleife. Oh man, it runs 100% better with the softer springs and dampers. This track is just too bumpy for a rigid track setup.
It's a good thing I did because I also saw your Ferrari F430 Scuderia build. I don't know how, but I've never seen that setup here before. My eyes must be going in my advanced age! 
Guess what I'll be building next?
I don't know how, but I ran into an old conversation here in the Garage where you gave a visitor instructions on how to soften the 599XX for the Nordschleife. Oh man, it runs 100% better with the softer springs and dampers. This track is just too bumpy for a rigid track setup.It's a good thing I did because I also saw your Ferrari F430 Scuderia build. I don't know how, but I've never seen that setup here before.
My eyes must be going in my advanced age! Guess what I'll be building next?
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- GTP_Orido
SRT Viper Base, GTS and TA 2014
Tuned to replicate SRT Viper 2014
Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
Tuned to replicate SRT Viper 2014
Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
CAR : SRT VIPER GTS '13
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
Specs Base SRT with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1532 kg
Ballast : 148 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 567
Specs SRT GTS with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1541 kg
Ballast : 157 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 566
Specs SRT TA with Special Edition Package
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1537 kg
Ballast : 153 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 567
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Rear Wing : Special Wing Type B
Other : Part Type B
Wheels : Standard Size Stock or RAYS 57Xtreme in Dark Silver or Black Matte or Matte Dark Gray
Car Paint : Competition Yellow Mica or Hemi Orange
or Monaco Orange or Hugger Orange or Viper Red or Spectrum White Pearl or Imperial Blue
Tuning Parts Installed :
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Suspension - Viper SRT Base Coupe Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 6.03 15.08
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.4 1.1
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
Suspension - Viper SRT GTS Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 6.63 16.59
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.4 1.1
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
Suspension - Viper SRT TA Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 7.24 18.10
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 4
Camber Angle: 2.5 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
LSD GKN ViscoLok
Initial Torque : 18
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 5
AERO
Rear = 20 ( MAX )
Brake Balance:
7/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/9 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
The SRT Viper 2014 replicas in this build comprises of 3 model line up, the Base SRT Viper, SRT Viper GTS and SRT Viper TA. All of the version are built using official SRT Viper documentation.
The weight of the Base and GTS Viper uses curb weight when fitted with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels and Viper TA has the wheels as standard fitment. Distribution are the same on all 3 at 49.6/50.4 ( approximately replicated via ballast position )
The suspension spring rates of the real cars are ( lb/in ):
Base Viper : 200/500
GTS : 220/550
TA : 240/600
These are not possible in GT6, the value can't get low enough. So I set the lowest front for Base, and use the spring ratio of 2.5 for the rear rate. The GTS and TA has 10% and 20% higher front rate just like IRL.
The damper is tuned to give balance of handling with the stiff springs and high ratio. ARB also reflecting the real life spec with higher stiffness for the TA.
Camber and toe alignment uses official SRT Viper Spec for all 3 models ( with Base and GTS sharing same alignment ) Ride height uses official ground clearance data at 127mm ( visually matched as well to the real car )
LSD is 1 way to replicate GKN ViscoLok, the lock action is smoother and should give plenty traction even on high speed cornering.
Gear ratios are correct this time and no changes made. Flat floor is at drivers discretion, its up to you to install flat floor or not, the added aero may require stiffer damper and may also add understeer, but should give more realistic acceleration at high speed.
The Base and GTS model are fitted with Pirelli P Zero tires ( Comfort Soft ), while the TA Special Package has Pirelli P Zero Corsa from factory ( Sports Hard ) Although the TA recommended tire is SH, it still handles well on CS tire, and SH has a bit too much lateral grip, somewhere between CS and SH is preferable. When tested and tuned, the TA was fitted with comfort soft tires, at Tsukuba, Apricot Hill and Big Willow. The TA on CS capable of 1:01s lap at Tsukuba
, 1:24s at Big Willow , and 1:32s at Apricot Hill. All of the run are provided as replays.
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- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
4 hours. That's what I've just spent running my various Ferrari F40 builds and my Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione around the Nordschleife. My tshirt is soaked in sweat!
It's a good thing I did because I also saw your Ferrari F430 Scuderia build. I don't know how, but I've never seen that setup here before.
So many options for one car
I have posted the SRT Viper ( 3 model line up, Base, GTS, TA ), the car is quite a nice drive, with performance comparable to the Stingray Z06.
- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
Yep, TA Special Edition Package has same engine as Base and GTS, the changes are more on suspension ( springs, damper, and sway bars ), chassis ( lighter X Brace ), and tires ( sticky Corsa - similar to Michelin Pilot Cup ) I used same damper setup on all model line up as they do the job well
The 2015 SRT Viper has 645HP, just 5HP increase.
Next batch : Lexus LFA and Audi TT-RS ( 6MT )
Pete05
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- 7,068
- Melbourne, Australia
Well doneSRT Viper Base, GTS and TA 2014
Tuned to replicate SRT Viper 2014
Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
CAR : SRT VIPER GTS '13
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Hard
Specs Base SRT with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1532 kg
Ballast : 148 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 567
Specs SRT GTS with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1541 kg
Ballast : 157 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 566
Specs SRT TA with Special Edition Package
Horsepower: 640 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 600.7 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1537 kg
Ballast : 153 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 50 / 50 - used real life approx 49.6 / 50.4
Performance Points: 567
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Rear Wing : Special Wing Type B
Other : Part Type B
Wheels : Standard Size Stock or RAYS 57Xtreme in Dark Silver or Black Matte or Matte Dark Gray
Car Paint : Competition Yellow Mica or Hemi Orange
or Monaco Orange or Hugger Orange or Viper Red or Spectrum White Pearl or Imperial Blue
Tuning Parts Installed :
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Suspension - Viper SRT Base Coupe Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 6.03 15.08
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.4 1.1
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
Suspension - Viper SRT GTS Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 6.63 16.59
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.4 1.1
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
Suspension - Viper SRT TA Bilstein DampTronic Spring/Damper
Viper Official Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 127 127
Spring Rate: 7.24 18.10
Dampers (Compression): 7 4
Dampers (Extension): 4 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 4
Camber Angle: 2.5 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.12
LSD GKN ViscoLok
Initial Torque : 18
Acceleration Sensitiviy: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 5
AERO
Rear = 20 ( MAX )
Brake Balance:
7/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/9 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
The SRT Viper 2014 replicas in this build comprises of 3 model line up, the Base SRT Viper, SRT Viper GTS and SRT Viper TA. All of the version are built using official SRT Viper documentation.
The weight of the Base and GTS Viper uses curb weight when fitted with Sidewinder II Lightweight Wheels and Viper TA has the wheels as standard fitment. Distribution are the same on all 3 at 49.6/50.4 ( approximately replicated via ballast position )
The suspension spring rates of the real cars are ( lb/in ):
Base Viper : 200/500
GTS : 220/550
TA : 240/600
These are not possible in GT6, the value can't get low enough. So I set the lowest front for Base, and use the spring ratio of 2.5 for the rear rate. The GTS and TA has 10% and 20% higher front rate just like IRL.
The damper is tuned to give balance of handling with the stiff springs and high ratio. ARB also reflecting the real life spec with higher stiffness for the TA.
Camber and toe alignment uses official SRT Viper Spec for all 3 models ( with Base and GTS sharing same alignment ) Ride height uses official ground clearance data at 127mm ( visually matched as well to the real car )
LSD is 1 way to replicate GKN ViscoLok, the lock action is smoother and should give plenty traction even on high speed cornering.
Gear ratios are correct this time and no changes made. Flat floor is at drivers discretion, its up to you to install flat floor or not, the added aero may require stiffer damper and may also add understeer, but should give more realistic acceleration at high speed.
The Base and GTS model are fitted with Pirelli P Zero tires ( Comfort Soft ), while the TA Special Package has Pirelli P Zero Corsa from factory ( Sports Hard ) Although the TA recommended tire is SH, it still handles well on CS tire, and SH has a bit too much lateral grip, somewhere between CS and SH is preferable. When tested and tuned, the TA was fitted with comfort soft tires, at Tsukuba, Apricot Hill and Big Willow. The TA on CS capable of 1:01s lap at Tsukuba
👍Another car that PD couldn't bother doing properly
At least they got the gear ratios right on this one
- 5,161
- Massachusetts
Ridox, you have really outdone yourself with this Ferrari F430 Scuderia!! I've only driven a handful of laps at Spa - I'm trying different suspension & alignment settings - but this thing is one of the smoothest cars I've ever driven in GT6! I've run the car on CS tires with Factory Ride Height settings, I've driven it with a medium ride height. I've driven it with the Track Spec suspension setup (Medium Camber) on SH tires - this was by far my favorite setup. The turn in is unreal. Grip is magnificent. I'm still messing around with the brakes, but they're already good at 5/6 - I have a feeling 6/7 will be amazing! Bravo!! 👍 It's so civilized compared to the F40 that I just drove for hours..Ferrari F430 Scuderia '07 Swift/AFCO/MOTON Tuned Real World Setup
Special Build Replica of Ferrari F430 Scuderia
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium
CAR : Ferrari F430 Scuderia '07
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium
Specs - No Fuel
Horsepower: 502 HP at 8500 RPM
Torque: 347.1 ft-lb at 5500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1363 kg
Ballast : 135 kg
Ballast Position : 19
Weight Distribution : 42.5 / 57.5 as in real life with no fuel
Performance Points: 548
Specs - Full Tank Weight
Horsepower: 502 HP at 8500 RPM
Torque: 347.1 ft-lb at 5500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1423 kg
Ballast : 195 kg
Ballast Position : 18
Weight Distribution : 42.14 / 57.86 as in real life with full fuel tank
Performance Points: 544
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED in this build )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Rosso Corsa or Laguna
Tuning Parts Installed :
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Adjustable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 1
STREET Spec
Suspension - AFCO Springs 475/650 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
High Camber
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 87 99
Spring Rate: 8.48 11.61
Dampers (Compression): 4 9
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 3.0 2.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.25
Suspension - AFCO Springs 475/650 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
Medium Camber
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 87 99
Spring Rate: 8.48 11.61
Dampers (Compression): 4 9
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 2.5 2.0
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.25
Suspension - AFCO Springs 475/650 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
Factory Ferrari Alignment + Ride Height
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 97 119
Spring Rate: 8.48 11.61
Dampers (Compression): 4 9
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 1.5 2.0
Toe Angle: 0.15 0.25
Suspension - AFCO Springs 475/650 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
Factory Ferrari Alignment + Lowest Ride Height with Lower Rake
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 67 79
Spring Rate: 8.48 11.61
Dampers (Compression): 4 9
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 1.5 2.0
Toe Angle: 0.15 0.25
TRACK Spec
Suspension - SWIFT Hypercoils Springs 784/1008 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
High Camber
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 67 79
Spring Rate: 14.00 18.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 8
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 3.0 2.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.25
Suspension - SWIFT Hypercoils Springs 784/1008 with MOTON 3 Way Motorsports Coilover Damper
Medium Camber
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 67 79
Spring Rate: 14.00 18.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 8
Dampers (Extension): 5 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 2.5 2.0
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.25
LSD - 2 Way E-Diff
Initial Torque : 24
Acceleration Sensitivity: 30
Braking Sensitivity: 30
Brake Balance:
7/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 7/8, for ABS 1 7/8 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/8 brake balance as starting point.
Notes
This Ferrari F430 Scuderia is built with the main goal to replicate real life lap record at Spa, 2:40.00
As stock suspension spring rate is not achievable, the rear can't go low enough, I opted to use 2 different spring set for this replica. I have also replicated the correct weight figure from corner weight ( with some fuel ) result in real life, as well as weight distribution.
There are 2 sets of suspension setup, one is mainly aimed at street use with softer springs from AFCO and the other is aimed at track racing with Swift Hypercoils at close to double the rate of the original Scuderia Gen II OEM Springs. A track oriented alignment has also been used ( camber and toe ).
Ride height has also been replicated, real life F430 Scuderia stock height has a high rake at close to 22mm difference ( higher rear ). For this replica I decided to use smaller amount of rake highly recommended at Ferrari owner forum - 12mm, this is a good balance for track driving and street in real life - slightly tighter with less rake.
The effect is opposite in GT6, another PD blunder
LSD uses 2 way to simulate E Diff with moderate locking rate and medium preload.
The F430 Scuderia can replicate the Spa lap time on comfort soft tire. I managed 2:39s in 1st lap
ENJOY
UPDATE : Added new suspension setup, factory alignment + ride height and medium camber for street and track.
1.09+ : Updated ride height due to range limit changes by PD, updated weight distribution based on real car corner weight and corrected toe value at per side.
Added alternate spec with full fuel tank.
The F430 Scuderia is one of my favorite cars in the world, in real life... Finally I have a tune that makes me appreciate the digital version just as much.
- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
Well done
Another car that PD couldn't bother doing properly
At least they got the gear ratios right on this one
Thank you
The car still has stiffer springs than it should be, but I tried my best to make it work and drive reasonably well on comfort tires.Ridox, you have really outdone yourself with this Ferrari F430 Scuderia!! I've only driven a handful of laps at Spa - I'm trying different suspension & alignment settings - but this thing is one of the smoothest cars I've ever driven in GT6! I've run the car on CS tires with Factory Ride Height settings, I've driven it with a medium ride height. I've driven it with the Track Spec suspension setup (Medium Camber) on SH tires - this was by far my favorite setup. The turn in is unreal. Grip is magnificent. I'm still messing around with the brakes, but they're already good at 5/6 - I have a feeling 6/7 will be amazing! Bravo!! 👍 It's so civilized compared to the F40 that I just drove for hours..
You are welcome
Did you try to beat the real life lap record at Spa ?, The F430 is a great car, but I still want the F355 ( including the Challenge version ), that would make me really happy as I used to drive it in Sega F355 Challenge arcade cab
- 5,161
- Massachusetts
Yes. I tied the record on my CS tires, though I didn't use the track spec setup with CS tires. With the track setup and SH tires I beat the real life record by a few seconds, no problem. I could have pushed even a little harder with all 3 setups. I just took it around Nordschleife for 2 laps with the track spec suspension and SH tires -- the car drove a lot better than I was expecting, with those firm springs. I'll try again in the morning with the street setup... Wow! What a 🤬 fantastic drivers car!! 
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