RIDOX Replica Garage-In Memory of TurnLeft-GT40,300ZX,F430,TVR,AEM S2000,Cizeta,TransAm Doug Nash

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I do have the 2:19s best lap replay for Subaru, it's a bit sloppy, though still a little bit quicker than Odefinn lap ( just one tenth )

 

[OdeFinn]

@danbojte you have now plenty of choices to go with, here's my Lexus, got solved my worrying problems from it, but it's not liking curbs as much Subaru, or one particular curb, last high speed left hand turn prior S/F chicane, don't touch inside curb, flat out as usual but no touching on inside curb.
Final chicane and first turn, take your time to learn driving those in/mid gently, car has plenty on rubber on rear to waste so no worrying if skidding bit, trust high acceleration capability.
Check gears changes on Subaru and mimic those with this too.
Someday might redo 1st and 2nd gear for better show speed cornering, now it's decent for Spa, it needs good acceleration against Subaru.

Spoiler: Lexus GT300 basic tune

Ride height 41/41
ARB 2/2
Camber(-) 1.4/1.4
Toe -0.07/+0.01
Brake Bias 5/6 (ABS)

Gearbox 270kmh initial 4.300, do prior engine stage 3
2.815
2.050
1.580
1.226
0.995
0.820
Final 4.647

LSD 10/36/16

Wings 151/301
Ballast 2kg @-3

 

[danbojte]

I do have the 2:19s best lap replay for Subaru, it's a bit sloppy, though still a little bit quicker than Odefinn lap ( just one tenth )

Your Subaru is also very good and fast (2:20 my best). 👍 Your worst is the Lexus which is too nervous in corners, something like the Audi R8 Racing Car has.

In my opinion a well tuned car in general is one that needs as less corrections as possible, allowing to focus on racing and eliminating errors.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Your Subaru is also very good and fast (2:20 my best). 👍 Your worst is the Lexus which is too nervous in corners, something like the Audi R8 Racing Car has.

In my opinion a well tuned car in general is one that needs as less corrections as possible, allowing to focus on racing and eliminating errors.

The Lexus has stiffest springs and low aero The car can be improved by lowering the spring rate and increasing aero. I intentionally used stiff springs to avoid bottom out at Eau Rouge and last chicane - used data logger, hence you also see the high ride height. Lowering the height also may help, though the car would very likely scrape the road.

 

[danbojte]

@danbojte you have now plenty of choices to go with, here's my Lexus, got solved my worrying problems from it, but it's not liking curbs as much Subaru, or one particular curb, last high speed left hand turn prior S/F chicane, don't touch inside curb, flat out as usual but no touching on inside curb.
Final chicane and first turn, take your time to learn driving those in/mid gently, car has plenty on rubber on rear to waste so no worrying if skidding bit, trust high acceleration capability.
Check gears changes on Subaru and mimic those with this too.
Someday might redo 1st and 2nd gear for better show speed cornering, now it's decent for Spa, it needs good acceleration against Subaru.

Spoiler: Lexus GT300 basic tune

Ride height 41/41
ARB 2/2
Camber(-) 1.4/1.4
Toe -0.07/+0.01
Brake Bias 5/6 (ABS)

Gearbox 270kmh initial 4.300, do prior engine stage 3
2.815
2.050
1.580
1.226
0.995
0.820
Final 4.647

LSD 10/36/16

Wings 151/301
Ballast 2kg @-3

That's great to have from what to choose! Thank you Ode! 👍 Will ride them again when I'll arrive at home.

 

[OdeFinn]

That's great to have from what to choose! Thank you Ode! 👍 Will ride them again when I'll arrive at home.

Don't try to be brave on first lap, tires needs to get warmer before it gets best out of it. Second lap is good for "full push".

Try out and let me know what you think about it. 2:21 high to 2:22 high on online stable, will give good challenge against Subaru too.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

The lower the fuel load also make the car faster when on fresher tire, I suggest to do mock up race online to see how much fuel consumed pushing hard

 

[OdeFinn]

The Lexus has stiffest springs and low aero The car can be improved by lowering the spring rate and increasing aero. I intentionally used stiff springs to avoid bottom out at Eau Rouge and last chicane - used data logger, hence you also see the high ride height. Lowering the height also may help, though the car would very likely scrape the road.

I solved low aero by lowering car and softening ARB, lower=less movements, less needed control for it.

The lower the fuel load also make the car faster when on fresher tire, I suggest to do mock up race online to see how much fuel consumed pushing hard

Quarter left in any cases what I have seen online, by own and competitors, "GT300 testing Lexus" gathered quite lot people to race.. 10 lap races and closest 2nd placer was 18secs behind, on that race I spun on first lap and got bit job to do..

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I solved low aero by lowering car and softening ARB, lower=less movements, less needed control for it.

I also see that you are running 41mm height, on my setup height and aero/spring, the car drops to around -40mm at certain places at Spa ( Eau Rouge and last chicane ). 41mm is within reasonable height range

Lower ARB is better for grip, I tend to prefer to compensate body roll with springs first then ARB.

 

[OdeFinn]

I also see that you are running 41mm height, on my setup height and aero/spring, the car drops to around -40mm at certain places at Spa ( Eau Rouge and last chicane ). 41mm is within reasonable height range

Yep, number is there by testing one up and it swings, one down and bottoms.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I setup the Lexus in a way that it will be detriment to the car stability, stiff springs, low ARB, max height, low aero, I tried to coax as much as possible from damper to make it somewhat manageable to drive hard ( mechanical grip ). I was waiting for feedback on the car if it is indeed too demanding, then I can remove or lessen the handicap It will be interesting to see how the car fare with lower springs and lower height ( maybe 12.00/12.00 or 14.00/14.00 spring with 45mm height )

 

[OdeFinn]

Lower ARB is better for grip, I tend to prefer to compensate body roll with springs first then

Lowering car does that on same time, springs get "stiffer" by lowering car, then it become stone rack and had to release from somewhere, I chose first ARB, if not enough or precise then going on spring.

 

[OdeFinn]

I setup the Lexus in a way that it will be detriment to the car stability, stiff springs, low ARB, max height, low aero, I tried to coax as much as possible from damper to make it somewhat manageable to drive hard ( mechanical grip ). I was waiting for feedback on the car if it is indeed too demanding, then I can remove or lessen the handicap It will be interesting to see how the car fare with lower springs and lower height ( maybe 12.00/12.00 or 14.00/14.00 spring with 45mm height )

I'll test all GT300 setups later, yours and gtchamp. Will give opinions then.

 

[OdeFinn]

Subaru Impreza GT300 - 2:19s at Spa ( 1st lap )

BB 3/7
Weight Ballast Position : -27, 52kg as per rule, 54/46 distribution

Aero : 350 / 350 - OPTIONAL 300 / 300

Suspension

Front, Rear
Ride Height: 66 66 -the magic number
Spring Rate: 14.00 14.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 1
Dampers (Extension): 10 10
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 7
Camber Angle: 2.5 2.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.00

DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION

Install all power parts
Set Default
Use Default Final
Set Auto Max Speed at 180kmh / 112mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.700
2nd 2.700
3rd 2.000
4th 1.600
5th 1.350
6th 1.200
Set Final 2.700

LSD
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 15
Braking Sensitivity: 5

Rear
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 60
Braking Sensitivity: 15

Torque Distributing Center Differential
Front/Rear = 35 : 65



Notice the roll bar and damper values The LSD also set for rotation, while torque split is set after using 50:50 tweaking the suspension. It has unique exit handling which may need to get used to. The 2:19s lap uses 350/350 aero.

Tested, comparing against own setup.
Steering:
Tendency to push on mid corner if opening throttle.
BBQ on outer front wheel is common thing, own warms milk, this makes roast.
Missing sharpness on steering, taking one turn on wheel for whole corner isn't there, you have to row wheel and play with throttle.
On straights, after corner exits or just line change it leaves body wave bit, giving you bit insecure feeling on stability, have be sure at you use this mass movement on your own benefits on every corner, and this makes you go always on slight slippage thru corner, wears tires on front.

Gearbox:
It's quick, but backbone doesn't understand it,feels like one gear too much on box when "350" wings, and on "300" it had just bit extra for everywhere.
Practically always going one gear smaller than on own setup, this leaves question when to use 6th? yes short shifting, but this makes me look often on rpm gauge and "distracts" concentration, audio for short shift isn't clear enough for me.

Tire wear:
Ratio on wear between front and rear starts to make understeer bigger constantly when going on more laps, front wear is going 2-2.5 laps ahead of mine, first three laps goes fine, then it starts "progressively" wear front more and more.

350 and 300 are similar, and behavior changes just as you can expect from numbers and above text.

It will lap similar, or even faster laps during first two to four laps, then it's losing too much on front grip and dropping lap times.


Not flowers, as usual, it's my review, car was good to drive, without comparison point it would have some flowers too.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Tested, comparing against own setup.
Steering:
Tendency to push on mid corner if opening throttle.
BBQ on outer front wheel is common thing, own warms milk, this makes roast.
Missing sharpness on steering, taking one turn on wheel for whole corner isn't there, you have to row wheel and play with throttle.
On straights, after corner exits or just line change it leaves body wave bit, giving you bit insecure feeling on stability, have be sure at you use this mass movement on your own benefits on every corner, and this makes you go always on slight slippage thru corner, wears tires on front.

Gearbox:
It's quick, but backbone doesn't understand it,feels like one gear too much on box when "350" wings, and on "300" it had just bit extra for everywhere.
Practically always going one gear smaller than on own setup, this leaves question when to use 6th? yes short shifting, but this makes me look often on rpm gauge and "distracts" concentration, audio for short shift isn't clear enough for me.

Tire wear:
Ratio on wear between front and rear starts to make understeer bigger constantly when going on more laps, front wear is going 2-2.5 laps ahead of mine, first three laps goes fine, then it starts "progressively" wear front more and more.

350 and 300 are similar, and behavior changes just as you can expect from numbers and above text.

It will lap similar, or even faster laps during first two to four laps, then it's losing too much on front grip and dropping lap times.


Not flowers, as usual, it's my review, car was good to drive, without comparison point it would have some flowers too.

Thanks, I kind of expected some deficiency when online due to the numerous handicap I intentionally used on the car Notice how I put the ballast up for 54/46 distribution - this may give more push and more front tire wear, move it rearward should help, but will need slight tweak on damper I hoped @danbojte would do his own changes to the car to suit his style when driving my baseline. At the beginning of testing, I used 50:50 torque split as well ( while tuning damper ).

For gear ratio, I didn't put a lot of thought on it other than keeping the gear spread to hit 6000RPM on upshift, and using 6th gear for drafting/passing and hitting top speed. For front tire wear, moving torque split more to the rear should help, I used 35:65, maybe 20:80 would make it less on the front.

My goal was to get it quick on non ideal setup and go from there by using danbojte feedback.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Okay, here are a few simple change that should transform the Subaru, increase final to 2.750 or 2.800, should accelerate much more rapidly even on 6th , then change rear LSD Accel to 30 to loosen up on part and full throttle ( mid to exit ), finally move ballast to position 26 for 51/49 distribution to lessen weight on front axle. Everything else as original setup ( 35:65 torque split should still be enough ), this may alter the car balance towards loose in all phase of cornering, so beware.

Use lower camber if necessary, change toe too ( but I would advise this as last step after everything else fit in well )

 

[danbojte]

Hi guys,

A big Thank You to,

- @gt6champnk69 for bringing back the hope to me

- @Ridox2JZGTE for being there for a friend in need

- @OdeFinn for the time and dedication spent for finding the quality

Thanks again to all,
Dan

 

[Dietrich]

Thank you Ridox for making this NISMO 400R. I don't know how long I have been wanting a decent replica tune, almost a decade TBO. I know what I'm going to do tomorrow:tup:.
Whoo, hoooo

Wow! What a great surprise for the Nismo fans. Thanks Ridox!👍

 

[Thorin Cain]

Hi guys,

A big Thank You to,

- @gt6champnk69 for bringing back the hope to me

- @Ridox2JZGTE for being there for a friend in need

- @OdeFinn for the time and dedication spent for finding the quality

Thanks again to all,
Dan

👍.

Best of luck Dan. I hope you have good races and some Champagne to remember them with . (They'll have to make do in the meantime ).

 

[Dietrich]

Hello Ridox!
After spending the last two weeks buying and tuning near a hundred cars from this garage I want to leave my impressions: "It's as if I've always played in arcade mode and now switched to a simulator mode. That's it".
Frequently in gt6, people often use broken cars with unrealistic behavior and performance just to win online and seasonal races. Over time, all cars end up looking alike.
In real life I'm a driver. Personal driver. Driving mainly rented cars. I often have to adapt myself to the behavioral differences of every type of car. From small light and weak, to large, heavy and powerful (sometimes shielded for safety) cars, including vans. Each car is unique in its behavior, and this diversity of sensations I've just found here.
Fortunately, at least in GT6, I have a very successful career , which gives me the chance to buy as many cars as I need . Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and this beautiful garage.

 

[danbojte]

👍.

Best of luck Dan. I hope you have good races and some Champagne to remember them with . (They'll have to make do in the meantime ).

Thank you Craig. I have the Champagne and the cars. Now my skills are remaining. I'd wish my good friends to be with me on the track. I understand though the real life comes first but I still wish.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I just used so many likes, thanks guys and @danbojte I'm glad to help I'm having intermittent time out with my internet right now, I'm going to post another car soon, hope you guys like it, hint : It's a SEMA car


For NISMO 400R, it may have some oversteer on exit just like the real car did when driven at both touge and Tsukuba, if you want more accurate power, increase power ( do oil change or install low RPM turbo ) to hit between 454 - 476 HP ( the most likely power figure range based on similarly tuned RB26DETT stroked to 2.8L and boost at 15.6 Psi / 1.08 Bar - almost twice stock R33 GTR boost level at 8.5 Psi / 0.6 Bar)

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

AEM / DriverFX.com S2000
SEMA Gran Turismo Awards 2005 / Stephan Papadakis

Tuned to Replicate AEM S2000
Comfort Medium to Sports Medium​

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CAR : AEM S2000 2005
Tire : Comfort Medium to Sports Medium

Specs SEMA Official
Horsepower: 418 HP / 424 PS at 6400 RPM
Torque : 357.9 ft-lb at 6100 RPM
Power Limiter at : 92.7%
Weight: 1156 kg
Ballast : 1 kg
Ballast Position : 34
Weight Distribution : 46 / 54
Performance Points: 531


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Stock


Tuning Parts Installed :
Semi Racing Exhaust
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes Kit



Suspension - OHLINS Coilover
Grip / Drift

Front, Rear

Ride Height: 100 100
Spring Rate: 12.00 16.00
Dampers (Compression): 4 7
Dampers (Extension): 5 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 2.7 0.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.00 - OPTIONAL -0.15 0.00




LSD - OS GIKEN 2 WAY / Drift Spec
Initial Torque : 60
Acceleration Sensitivity: 60
Braking Sensitivity: 60


OPTIONAL - Lower Preload/Initial Torque Drift Spec
Initial Torque : 33
Acceleration Sensitivity: 60
Braking Sensitivity: 60

Track Spec - Lower Lock
Initial Torque : 33
Acceleration Sensitivity: 33
Braking Sensitivity: 33



AERO-Base
Front / Rear = 200 / 200 - OPTIONAL Rear at 225 / 250 / 275 / 300 so on.

OPTIONAL
Track Spec Aero : 200 / 450

Brake Balance:
3/3 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 3/3 brake balance as starting point.

Notes :

This is a build from GT5, an old SEMA GT Awards winner from 2005 The car is test bed for drift spec car using parts mainly from AEM and DC Sports. It was used for Professional Drift events in the US throughout 2005, driven by Stephan Papadakis.

The car is built to drive from CM to SM tire, so please try it on CM first, it may need some throttle control due to the nature of the setup ( Base is Drift spec for LSD ). Suspension is versatile setup, it can be used for both grip and drift, LSD is used to alter car behavior suited for grip or drift. The Base LSD is for drift at max value for all parameter, a lower initial is included if the drift spec is too demanding, while lower lock LSD suited for grip.

Aero is set at 200/200, this is base in which the car was built upon, you can of course increase rear by small increment until you find the balance that you wish. I also included optional track aero at 200/450.

I tested the car at various tracks, from Madrid, Matterhorn Short, Trial Mountain, Bathurst, Deep Forest, and Apricot Hill Reverse. It did 1:44s on CM at Trial Mountain, and 28s at Matterhorn Short. Replay for both included.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Ah!? That SEMA car :tup:

....it may need some throttle control due to the nature of the setup ( Base is Drift spec for LSD ).

And this year's award for understatement of the year goes to.... .

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I have been busy playing other games this week ( only played GT6 for a short session to tweak one car ), will post more cars in a few days, most will be without notes to speed things up, treat them as quick tune with realistic values

 

[LeGeNd-1]

It's been a while since I posted here. Been busy for the last couple of months sorting out stuff. Now I should have some more free time available to test your cars I tried the Nismo 270R and 400R last night and they are as convincing and as realistic as ever. Good to know Ridox hasn't lost his touch 👍

Also with the Porsche Packs coming to AC I've been comparing your RUFs and AC's 911 RSR. Though obviously they are not the exact same car, Ridox's version does exhibit similar characteristics and it doesn't take me long to adapt. The newer Porsches are pretty horrible though. Most of them are just understeery pigs I'm glad PD stuck with older models

BTW, Ridox do you still need the GT-R GT3 file from AC? I'm so sorry it took me so long to get back to you. If you tell me exactly what file to get I can send it right away.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

It's been a while since I posted here. Been busy for the last couple of months sorting out stuff. Now I should have some more free time available to test your cars I tried the Nismo 270R and 400R last night and they are as convincing and as realistic as ever. Good to know Ridox hasn't lost his touch 👍

Also with the Porsche Packs coming to AC I've been comparing your RUFs and AC's 911 RSR. Though obviously they are not the exact same car, Ridox's version does exhibit similar characteristics and it doesn't take me long to adapt. The newer Porsches are pretty horrible though. Most of them are just understeery pigs I'm glad PD stuck with older models

BTW, Ridox do you still need the GT-R GT3 file from AC? I'm so sorry it took me so long to get back to you. If you tell me exactly what file to get I can send it right away.

Glad that you are back I thought you were on holiday abroad Hope things in life gets sorted and well for you

Newer Porsche in AC understeer ? Is it due to front end lift under acceleration ( light nose, heavy rear ) or also on turn in ? I know that the older 996 GT3 have understeer ( on Hot Version Touge run ), the later Porsche 997 onwards do have suspension geometry aimed at more stability, later electronic system aid further like the latest PTV+ ( Porsche Torque Vectoring ), though the LSD is much less aggressive in lock than older gen, but still controlled by electronic system ( variable ).

Older Porsches are the best IMO, from 930 to 964 are the golden era for Porsche, the AWD in 964 was exceptional, the concept which brought back again in the latest AWD Porsche ( refined )

For the car files, mmm I just got another information about LSD in AC, turns out AC only simulate clutch pack LSD ( according to Stefano ), even Torsen is not simulated, so cars with torsen like Miata ND more likely uses custom clutch pack LSD setup to compensate. I do still curious with some other parts like turbo simulation, so yeah, I would love to have car data files, not just GTR GT3, but preferably some other cars like the new Porsche Carrera, RUF CTR, Supra, RX7, E30 M3 Gr A and AE86 These are not big right, just the ini files ( like suspensions.ini, engine.ini, drivetrain.ini, electronics.ini, aero.ini etc )

If you need help setting up cars in AC ( cars like E30 M3 GrA which I have access to old BMW Motorsports data and docs ) , let me know as well

 

[LeGeNd-1]

It just feels heavy and the front end doesn't have enough grip on entry and mid corner. I mean half of it is probably my expectations were too high, but it's just not as responsive as I would have hoped. The older Porsches I can manage just fine so it's not like I don't know how to drive RR.

I'll see how much of those cars I can get. Should I just zip them and send them by PM? I don't know how big the file limit is on GTP for attachments.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

It just feels heavy and the front end doesn't have enough grip on entry and mid corner. I mean half of it is probably my expectations were too high, but it's just not as responsive as I would have hoped. The older Porsches I can manage just fine so it's not like I don't know how to drive RR.

I'll see how much of those cars I can get. Should I just zip them and send them by PM? I don't know how big the file limit is on GTP for attachments.

Ini files are just text in a few kb sizes, you could easily separate them in folders of each car then zip the lot. I think the attachment size is pretty big, more than 5 MB I think, so it should be fine, and yes, you can send it via PM if you wish. Thank you, hope I'm not troubling you much

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Ini files are just text in a few kb sizes, you could easily separate them in folders of each car then zip the lot. I think the attachment size is pretty big, more than 5 MB I think, so it should be fine, and yes, you can send it via PM if you wish. Thank you, hope I'm not troubling you much

No worries mate. I'll get them next time I'm on AC 👍 I just hope I'm not breaking any forum rules lol.