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RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13
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Tek Trek.
Speaking of the actual name, how can you trek through air? It's not like you can walk in the sky or something(planes excluding) Besides which the Airtrek is rather a ball of nothing to me, the Evo, 3000GT and Galant are all already 4WD.
Hmm not really. It doesn't have AYC, it's 4WD is a rear biased one with a LSD setting of something like 15/80/0 and is more a car for urban cruise and school runs. But Y U NO LIEK AIRTREK?!?!? Think of it as the RS6 of the Mitsubishi range. Only without the panzer tank, renault killing abilities.
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Hmm not really. It doesn't have AYC, it's 4WD is a rear biased one with a LSD setting of something like 15/80/0 and is more a car for urban cruise and school runs. But Y U NO LIEK AIRTREK?!?!? Think of it as the RS6 of the Mitsubishi range. Only without the panzer tank, renault killing abilities.
It sounds cool anyway.
And I'm sorry, but an Airtrek cannot touch an RS6 Avant. Normally it's way out, modification is obviously gonna bring it there, but then the RS6 can be modified too, and that reaches 900hp. I'm sorry, I can't see much liking to the Airtrek. At least the Mitsubishi badge is there...
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Wanna bet? Autumn Ring Mini, 500hp, 1250kg Mitsubishi vs 900hp, 1700kg or something of understeering Audi.
Not 'forever alone', you has your girl
The weight won't matter with the RS6, the Airtrek will still get completely ousted. Remember that they are both 4WD still.
Haha, girls are now a topic in this conversation
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Review (kind of - more like feedback).
EVO IX Emporer updated tune:
I'm in a 530pp sports soft road car racing series competing at Deep Forest tonight, I threw together a tune for the EVO IX, then saw on here it'd been updated, so I built one to updated RKM specs to give it a go.
Test:
Deep Forest - 9 laps - online race
Spa - 6 laps - online race
All aids turned off
Grip reduction - low
Steering sensitivty - default (0)
Driving style - very aggressive throttle i.e. 100% all the time.
Deep Forest
As expected, the car felt great turning in, whether it was a slow 2nd gear corner or higher speed 5th gear (once tyres had warmed up). Once the car had reached the apex, it carried on turning well, making for very smooth cornering and lapping consistently pretty easy.
Being a 4wd I expected it to be stable, and it was, generally, apart from the corner before the first tunnel, it felt a little skittish, but then again, alot of cars come unstuck there so it didn't really worry or bother me.
It felt best through the mid and higher speed corners, giving you alot of confidence to "throw" the car in, knowing it'll not only stick, but grip, turn and fly out the other side.
I was impressed with the front tyre wear, for a 4WD, being driven aggressively, it only munched about 20-30% of it's front tyres, leaving enough grip to still be able to lap consistently at the end of the race.
Lap times (for an EVO) were very, very good - and the tune was good enough to be pushing hard for 9 laps and keep all the laps within 2 secs of each other.
Spa
Don't know why, but it didn't feel as home here as it did at Deep Forest. It still felt good on most corners, but it didn't feel 'right', maybe it was because it felt so good at Deep Forest expectations were raised, or at a high level.
It seemed to struggle more on cold tyres than at Deep Forest and Eu Rouge was particularly nasty. I've raced quite a few 530pp sports soft road cars at Spa over the past week, and this Evo seemed to be a real bitch to get through Eu Rouge. It turned so quick (in the 'flick' from left to right at the very bottom of the corner) instead of insipring confidence in abundence (like at Deep Forest), each time I approached Eu Rouge I was wary instead, and had to back off a bit, rather than the glorious "chucking" of the car at Deep Forest.
But, being a padracer, I think this may have had something to do with it, possibly (??).
It was still "OK", in fact, it was pretty darn good for an EVO, but I didn't get the same satisfaction or feeling as I did at Deep Forest or with other 4WD's at Spa.
This brings me on the the biggest problem I had with the updated IX settings - the gear ratio's.
I checked and double checked, even "defaulted" them and reset them 2nd time, but I came out with a crazy high top speed, which the car felt like it'd never be able to achieve unless it had a very long straight and slipstream to help it.
Also, at the start of the race, 1st gear went in a flash, with a fair bit of tyre smoking from the rears.
Both at Spa and Deep Forest I was driving a 5 speed, with a very short 1st gear - I'm presuming I've misread the ratio's or something?? But everythjing is set as per the spec and was tuned in the order said - (top speed first).
I felt the brakes were too strong at the front, if or when I misjudged the braking point as I was running wide and past the apex, the front tyres lit up, increasing the "wash out" further.
Eventually, I changed the front brakes to 5 (instead of 6) and defaulted the gear ratio's and put my usual in (1st & 2nd maxed, 6th fully shortenend - the rest even spaced) - this really helped at Spa, now, through some of the corners the "chuckability" from Deep Forest came back.
From previous RKM tunes, I know my driving style and settings (for pad) doesn't always suit the tune, but a quick tune of the LSD can normally sort this out. So I don't hold this against the "tune" as it not the tune or tuners fault, it's just a difference in equiptment and driving style.
Summary:
For an EVO - yeh, it rocks, very good, especially in the twisty circuits it's a great car to have fun in and to also race online - as the tyre wear, grip and stability is so good.
Is it a Scooby killer - hmm, don't believe the hype, this RKM IX is one of the best, if not the best (road) EVO's I've driven yet, but comparing it with my IX times, and subsequently what my Scoobys can do against my IX, well, I think it's a case of - "you've got 2 hopes, and Bob's no longer with us".
But, this shouldn't be seen as a negative for this tune, since release, everyone I know has commented on how good the Scoobys are in GT5 and how much of a 'mare' the EVO's are.
Well, if you drive this RKM EVO IX - that'll definately explode that myth, 'cos this RKM IX is pretty darn good. Correction - it rocks, big time.
9.5/10 (excluding gearbox and brake issue I had)
7/10 (including those issues - if they're the same for everyone, but I'm thinking it's just me).
Good work Roj 👍
EVO IX Emporer updated tune:
I'm in a 530pp sports soft road car racing series competing at Deep Forest tonight, I threw together a tune for the EVO IX, then saw on here it'd been updated, so I built one to updated RKM specs to give it a go.
Test:
Deep Forest - 9 laps - online race
Spa - 6 laps - online race
All aids turned off
Grip reduction - low
Steering sensitivty - default (0)
Driving style - very aggressive throttle i.e. 100% all the time.
Deep Forest
As expected, the car felt great turning in, whether it was a slow 2nd gear corner or higher speed 5th gear (once tyres had warmed up). Once the car had reached the apex, it carried on turning well, making for very smooth cornering and lapping consistently pretty easy.
Being a 4wd I expected it to be stable, and it was, generally, apart from the corner before the first tunnel, it felt a little skittish, but then again, alot of cars come unstuck there so it didn't really worry or bother me.
It felt best through the mid and higher speed corners, giving you alot of confidence to "throw" the car in, knowing it'll not only stick, but grip, turn and fly out the other side.
I was impressed with the front tyre wear, for a 4WD, being driven aggressively, it only munched about 20-30% of it's front tyres, leaving enough grip to still be able to lap consistently at the end of the race.
Lap times (for an EVO) were very, very good - and the tune was good enough to be pushing hard for 9 laps and keep all the laps within 2 secs of each other.
Spa
Don't know why, but it didn't feel as home here as it did at Deep Forest. It still felt good on most corners, but it didn't feel 'right', maybe it was because it felt so good at Deep Forest expectations were raised, or at a high level.
It seemed to struggle more on cold tyres than at Deep Forest and Eu Rouge was particularly nasty. I've raced quite a few 530pp sports soft road cars at Spa over the past week, and this Evo seemed to be a real bitch to get through Eu Rouge. It turned so quick (in the 'flick' from left to right at the very bottom of the corner) instead of insipring confidence in abundence (like at Deep Forest), each time I approached Eu Rouge I was wary instead, and had to back off a bit, rather than the glorious "chucking" of the car at Deep Forest.
But, being a padracer, I think this may have had something to do with it, possibly (??).
It was still "OK", in fact, it was pretty darn good for an EVO, but I didn't get the same satisfaction or feeling as I did at Deep Forest or with other 4WD's at Spa.
This brings me on the the biggest problem I had with the updated IX settings - the gear ratio's.
I checked and double checked, even "defaulted" them and reset them 2nd time, but I came out with a crazy high top speed, which the car felt like it'd never be able to achieve unless it had a very long straight and slipstream to help it.
Also, at the start of the race, 1st gear went in a flash, with a fair bit of tyre smoking from the rears.
Both at Spa and Deep Forest I was driving a 5 speed, with a very short 1st gear - I'm presuming I've misread the ratio's or something?? But everythjing is set as per the spec and was tuned in the order said - (top speed first).
I felt the brakes were too strong at the front, if or when I misjudged the braking point as I was running wide and past the apex, the front tyres lit up, increasing the "wash out" further.
Eventually, I changed the front brakes to 5 (instead of 6) and defaulted the gear ratio's and put my usual in (1st & 2nd maxed, 6th fully shortenend - the rest even spaced) - this really helped at Spa, now, through some of the corners the "chuckability" from Deep Forest came back.
From previous RKM tunes, I know my driving style and settings (for pad) doesn't always suit the tune, but a quick tune of the LSD can normally sort this out. So I don't hold this against the "tune" as it not the tune or tuners fault, it's just a difference in equiptment and driving style.
Summary:
For an EVO - yeh, it rocks, very good, especially in the twisty circuits it's a great car to have fun in and to also race online - as the tyre wear, grip and stability is so good.
Is it a Scooby killer - hmm, don't believe the hype, this RKM IX is one of the best, if not the best (road) EVO's I've driven yet, but comparing it with my IX times, and subsequently what my Scoobys can do against my IX, well, I think it's a case of - "you've got 2 hopes, and Bob's no longer with us".
But, this shouldn't be seen as a negative for this tune, since release, everyone I know has commented on how good the Scoobys are in GT5 and how much of a 'mare' the EVO's are.
Well, if you drive this RKM EVO IX - that'll definately explode that myth, 'cos this RKM IX is pretty darn good. Correction - it rocks, big time.
9.5/10 (excluding gearbox and brake issue I had)
7/10 (including those issues - if they're the same for everyone, but I'm thinking it's just me).
Good work Roj 👍
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The weight won't matter with the RS6, the Airtrek will still get completely ousted. Remember that they are both 4WD still.
Haha, girls are now a topic in this conversation
It will when you brake for the corners. It's still a bit of a house, 900hp or not. The Airtrek shall beat the panzar tank, by any means necessary!
Yea, but real life ones, not the ones you dream of in your Anime.
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Wanna bet? Autumn Ring Mini, 500hp, 1250kg Mitsubishi vs 900hp, 1700kg or something of understeering Audi.
Not 'forever alone', you has your girl
And the Mitsu has a closer ratio tranny.
Oh, Mari? She's sleeping.
The weight won't matter with the RS6, the Airtrek will still get completely ousted. Remember that they are both 4WD still.
Haha, girls are now a topic in this conversation
Power-to-weight ratio favors the RS6?
..girls?
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It will when you brake for the corners. It's still a bit of a house, 900hp or not. The Airtrek shall beat the panzar tank, by any means necessary!
Yea, but real life ones, not the ones you dream of in your Anime.
Meh, have a try and see. Not in a race though because you never know if it won't be equal.
Either/or, it's still win-win.
Power-to-weight ratio favors the RS6?
..girls?
Airtrek - 500 / 1250 = 0.4
RS6 - 900 / 1700 = 0.529
Higher is better in this case.
Yes, girls. You ever heard of them, uMadson?
EDIT: Also, as an additive, the RS6 goes down to 1534kg min, not in the 1700's, making it 0.586 and a very big scare for anything around it.
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Meh, have a try and see. Not in a race though because you never know if it won't be equal.
Either/or, it's still win-win.
Airtrek - 500 / 1250 = 0.4
RS6 - 900 / 1700 = 0.529
Higher is better in this case.
Yes, girls. You ever heard of them, uMadson?
GET DAT PANZER EDITION, MAKE DAT AIRTREK WIN. Unless a total psycho is behind the wheel of the tank.
Girls? They're everywhere. What's so special about girls?
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uMadson?
I am special! »^_^«
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Whoops nearly missed this. Thanks for the double review! The FD2 is an absolute delight to drive and I'm glad you found it fun too.
The EK9 though, I'm not sure what it is but it seems less playful than the FD2 and also more prone to understeer. Not sure if it's the thinner tyres or just the older chassis. But yeah thanks for reviewing them! Thanks for the review!
It's definately more of a Deep Forest/Trial Mountain sort of car. I think flatter tracks like Spa can show the weakness of AYC a fair bit. But yeah thanks for the detailed feedback, it comes in handy when it comes to fixing the tunes. 👍I'll look into the gearbox and the brakes. It could be that I've made a typo in the ratios or I'm just used to how it is, but yeah I'll look into it and try and fix it. 👍
Edit: Just realised you're talking about online. It may just be because I tuned the car offline that the brakes are an issue. Also 6th kicks in at 160mph-ish which is reasonable for an Evo... Perhaps it is just a typo.
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Bye anyway. 
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Something very weird happened to my GTP save and I lost around 30 cars and 200 or so nice paints... The game went back in time by itself, almost 100 days back. Odd.
Also strange is that my log still shows me receiving an M3, buying some cars, etc. I lost 3 Supra RZs.
Also strange is that my log still shows me receiving an M3, buying some cars, etc. I lost 3 Supra RZs.
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So Roj >> I know you're busy and all with DLC and updating tunes, but any hints as to when that Delta HF tune I requested is comin out? Its sitting my garage being bullied by all the other RKM cars!
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Please post a link also. Mobile users just see an image of a banner. Pretty banners....
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It seems like you missed my post.First lap with softs and it did 1:38.666 and it still has more to give.
Please post a link also. Mobile users just see an image of a banner. Pretty banners....
The links are in the mobile link page. 👍
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VTiRojIt seems like you missed my post.
The links are in the mobile link page. 👍
Then why was an image hyperlink posted. Such prejudice toward mobile users
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Not sure, whenever I finish my own Delta probably.
Reveal them then!
I want a reason to push the Prius. Then why was an image hyperlink posted. Such prejudice toward mobile users
Because PC power!
Nah, I just like showing off my pretty pictures.
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