RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

[Onboy123]

Exactly my problem, even with stupidly long gears...cannot keep it stuck at all. It's worse than the ACR I posted up, and the MP4...and the SLR...

Umm…if you'd want, I could give you my ratios…it's for a full power one and wheelspin is restrained to 1st, so on a slightly less powerful one, it should be restrain it. It should. Anyway.

 

[f1357924680]

Review: i love this corvette zr1 because it looks great and its a real beast but it has to much understeering at the complete corner so i have to break and it isnt fun to drive slow with that monster. this corvette accelerates so fast with the standard gearbox! Its like a rocket
some people say i am insane because i drive this with racing hard tires, but they dont know that i want to use this car as an endurance racecar

Is this review okay ?

 

[Onboy123]

Is this review okay ?

Yes-ish and no. Yes, it'd probably suffice, but fix the punctuation first. But nope, cuz i needs to be about one of the cars in the first post.

 

[Michelin]

... did Spec 2.0 change the GTR GT500 drastically? As far as I remember, in Spec 1.0, that car was glued to the road like hell.

Both my Calsonic (Spec 1 and 2) and my Stealth (Spec 2) did/does that for me. Sometimes, even when the car it's totally straight, you go full throttle and the back goes happy.

 

[uMadson?]

Both my Calsonic (Spec 1 and 2) and my Stealth (Spec 2) did/does that for me. Sometimes, even when the car it's totally straight, you go full throttle and the back goes happy.

I just wonder why the GT500 R35 went tailhappy all of a sudden...

 

[VTiRoj]

Just a little "souvenir" from south of France that a friend send to me, also to remember your rallye shootout (Rotary Junkie & VTiRoj car), and for the support i recieve from the RKM team.
Thanks to everybody. 👍

><((((°> °°°°°°°

Cheers Praiano, I guess it's the thought that counts. Maybe next time you could give us an S2000 instead?

Glad to see you and your fishy are sticking around! 👍

After looking for a proper 450pp tune to take the world on in, I think I've found what works
This iteration of the S2000 seems to be significantly better than what I've tried; even with sports mediums, the rear is always planted, and takes a bit of forcing to make it go sideways. On the online-spec SS's, the grip was even more apparent; The Understeer has disappeared, as well as the oversteer. The only thing that's left is the RWD wheelspin, and that's still quite manageable. Oddly, it reminds me of a RX-7, but without the oversteer

A great, balanced racer:tup:

Now, I only have one question; is it hard to get ~1.5 G out of Sports softs without downforce? This achieves that, but not much else that I've come across can do that without having a wing, or has less than 200hp

Thanks for the review! It is an S2000 afterall so I can't take credit for anything it does. It's a naturally capable car. The wheelspin you can fix with longer ratios. 👍

Please give me an example for a review, because i dont know what i have to write

There's examples of good reviews linked on our first post, right at the bottom. Check those out for examples. 👍

 

[Dragonthing]

Well I have given up with the GT500, it won't respond properly to anything I do, whether it be changing spring rates, dampers, anti-roll, camber, the LSD doesn't even make a difference except increase understeer and STILL oversteers all the time...

I do however have a pretty decent Golf V to post up tonight. It is obviously PD's most hated car, since they didn't even model the pins for the carbon hoods or any tailpipes for exhaust upgrades. Such a half-assed effort for a car that actually sounds nice for once, and handles good too!

 

[TheDabbinDave]

&#133;&#133;it wheelspined from 1st-3rd and oversteered at every opportunity.

Unless you had TC set to like 2.

The Yellowhat anyway

 

[VTiRoj]

I do however have a pretty decent Golf V to post up tonight. It is obviously PD's most hated car, since they didn't even model the pins for the carbon hoods or any tailpipes for exhaust upgrades. Such a half-assed effort for a car that actually sounds nice for once, and handles good too!

There's a few cars like that actually. The Vitz, some of the Eurotrash cars and I think the F430.

 

[racer39658]

RKM Motorsport's Python

How the heck does this thing stay so planted with no downforce? I am amazed at how well behaved this 1000+ HP beast is. Normally, without the downforce, the back end skips and slides all over the place at Trial Mountain, while the Python stays absolutely glued to the track (OK, except for the hill on the back straight, but everything gets airbourne there at that speed). The only time I got the back end to misbehave was to do something dumb; normally it's work keeping the back of a beast like this in line.

Props to Dragon for a very nice job taming the Dodge beast.

After running a quick race, my top time in the Python was 1:22.675, making it number 5 in my top 5 fastest RKM cars on the mountain, behind the Murcielago (1:21.877), ZZII (1:22.134), NSX-R Prototype (1:22.336), and R8 (1:22.490).

>I run the car once or twice through the supercar festival and check my best lap, which is by no means the best I could do once I run more laps in the car.

 

[GT350GT]

i think it must be one of the most fun cars to drive stock! and sapphire where did you get that colour from on your ACR, its reaallly pretty!

 

[Dragonthing]

How the heck does this thing stay so planted with no downforce? I am amazed at how well behaved this 1000+ HP beast is. Normally, without the downforce, the back end skips and slides all over the place at Trial Mountain, while the Python stays absolutely glued to the track (OK, except for the hill on the back straight, but everything gets airbourne there at that speed). The only time I got the back end to misbehave was to do something dumb; normally it's work keeping the back of a beast like this in line.

Props to Dragon for a very nice job taming the Dodge beast.

After running a quick race, my top time in the Python was 1:22.675, making it number 5 in my top 5 fastest RKM cars on the mountain, behind the Murcielago (1:21.877), ZZII (1:22.134), NSX-R Prototype (1:22.336), and R8 (1:22.490).

>I run the car once or twice through the supercar festival and check my best lap, which is by no means the best I could do once I run more laps in the car.

It is a complete mystery to me too...I did test it with the spoiler on and it made no real noticeable difference with max aero. I can only assume the nicer looking stock spoiler has a similar level of downforce that we can't change. And I think this is one of a few cars I have never tested on Trial. I drove the wheels off on Cape Ring though the hill there is scary...

i think it must be one of the most fun cars to drive stock! and sapphire where did you get that colour from on your ACR, its reaallly pretty!

You will need to look for one of the standard Alfa Romeo 147s, or possibly another standard Alfa. It is called Verde Gemma Metallizzato and yus, it is such an amazingly fun car to drive, especially with that ridiculous exhaust and gearbox whine, which I don't mind at all for once.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

It is a complete mystery to me too...I did test it with the spoiler on and it made no real noticeable difference with max aero. I can only assume the nicer looking stock spoiler has a similar level of downforce that we can't change. And I think this is one of a few cars I have never tested on Trial. I drove the wheels off on Cape Ring though the hill there is scary...

The ACR has factory downforce of 10/20 front/rear if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Dragonthing]

The ACR has factory downforce of 10/20 front/rear if I'm not mistaken.

Hax! I know it had downforce already, it drops the back end when it takes off at Cape Ring and Trial Mountain...either way it is enough to keep it planted and that is what matters

 

[f1357924680]

RKM Motorsport&#8217;s Corvette ZR1

Based on: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) &#8216;09
Obtained: Brand new model at Chevrolet

Drivetrain: FR
Horsepower: 625 BHP (@ 59.2 miles)
Torque:---- 81 kgfm
Weight:---- 1221 kg
PP:-------- 587

PARTS
GT Auto
Type A Front Aero
Type A Rear Aero

Tuning Shop
Chassis Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Improvement
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet (Body Colour)
Twin Plate Clutch
Semi Racing Flywheel
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Fully Customisable LSD
Fully Customisable Suspension Kit
Sports Soft Tyres

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Ballast
Amount:-- 0
Position: 0

Engine
Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Drivetrain
Differential
Initial: 0/15
Accel:-- 0/25
Braking: 0/5

Suspension
Suspension
Ride Height: 0/0
Spring Rate: 14.0/11.0
Extension:-- 8/9
Compression: 6/8
Anti-Roll:-- 4/5
Camber:----- 2.6/2.4
Toe:-------- &#8211;0.20/-0.20

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6/7

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Manual (MT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:
The Corvette ZR1 is the current fastest production Corvette. It&#8217;s easy to see why it has such a fanbase. Naturally though, being a high power RWD car with a big V8 up front, the handling gets hairy sometimes. So what we&#8217;ve done is left the engine stock and improved the rest of the car to match the motor. Whilst this Corvette will still step it&#8217;s tail out if you push too far, it&#8217;s a lot more controllable and much easier to drive than before.

What should i change if i want to drive this car completly tuned include aero parts ?

 

[racer39658]

The ACR has factory downforce of 10/20 front/rear if I'm not mistaken.

Ah, I forgot to look at that... that explains it a bit, but still a great tune. Dragon's tuning style definately fits in well with you and Roj. RKM is still a great team, and one member stronger.

 

[Porta555]

Ah, I forgot to look at that... that explains it a bit, but still a great tune. Dragon's tuning style definately fits in well with you and Roj. RKM is still a great team, and one member stronger.

I'll agree to that! Dragonthing's tunes are perfect for me but everyone's working hard.

 

[Highlandor]

The ACR has factory downforce of 10/20 front/rear if I'm not mistaken.

When you say "factory" RJ I presume you means straight from the dealer in GT5??

If so, no, it doesn't have any downforce, despite, visually having what looks like a rear spoiler you buy from GT Auto for other cars and quite obvious front aero devices. Once a spoiler from GT Auto has been put on then it gets a maximum of 40 aero at the rear, can't remember the front.

Same situation as the Lotus Esprit 350, that comes with a spoiler that looks GT Auto, but there's no aero in 'settings', you want rear aero for the 350 you got to buy a spoiler from GT Auto. Whereas cars like the ZZII doesn't have any visable looking spoilers either front or rear, but as standard comes with as much aero as some RM'd car(s).

Aero / downforce does have an affect, but it's where it's being used that's the key.

We did a test way back in January to see the affects of aero:

Honda HSC @ Cape Ring 530pp sports soft tyres, but no LSD or custom suspension - full engine & chassis rebuild - online - all driving aids off.

Tried hammering it around the ring (of Cape Ring) - back ends let's go.
Added Racing Hards to rear, waitied for them to "warm up" - same result, backk end went bye bye.
Took RH off, went back to Sports Soft and added rear spoiler from GT Auto, aero on max - still spun.
Put the RH's back on (so now it had both max aero and racing hards at rear) - it still spun.
Took spoiler and RH's off, back to sports softs and added custom suspension and LSD, tuned it for rear stability - NO spin, solid as a rock, but yes, you could feel the understeer at the front.

But that wasn't the test (what happens at the front), we were testing what works at the rear and concluded more rear grip and stability could be found via adding (and tuning) suspension and LSD than from upgrading to Racing tyres and rear spoiler on max.

That was back in January though and limied to the Ring @ Cape Ring, been many many updates since then though, so not sure if it's still relevant. But most guys I online race with don't use aero for their 530pp cars (sports soft tyres), me too (other than the Cali as I love the way it looks with the roof up) - the PP saved goes to power / weight reduction instead, that's generally viewed as being more beneficial with the guys we race with, especially on 4WD's that have such good natural stability.

H

 

[GT350GT]

i'll keep a look out for an alfa then! oh yeah one more thing, you know the CRX Del Sol, well is it a handling monster stock or is it my tuning> (i doubt its the latter ) because i've got a allmotor one on sports soft and its faster than Roj's VTI and VTI-R! i just think its an amazing car out of the box but can you shed some light on this please?

 

[Dragonthing]

i'll keep a look out for an alfa then! oh yeah one more thing, you know the CRX Del Sol, well is it a handling monster stock or is it my tuning> (i doubt its the latter ) because i've got a allmotor one on sports soft and its faster than Roj's VTI and VTI-R! i just think its an amazing car out of the box but can you shed some light on this please?

I have never even given it a look if I'm honest I have practically given up with GT5 for now, I cannot find inspiration to tune anything, and I suck too badly to race online, as much as I'd like to...

 

[VTiRoj]

What should i change if i want to drive this car completly tuned include aero parts ?

A lot. You'd have more luck trying RJ's Z06 RM settings on your maxed ZR1 to be honest.

 

[GT350GT]

if you need any online cars i got a maxed out CR-Z that is insanely fast! so i'll give it to you if you want

 

[Dragonthing]

if you need any online cars i got a maxed out CR-Z that is insanely fast! so i'll give it to you if you want

It's less the cars and more to do with the 🤬 idiots who insist on cheating at every single opportunity to satisfy their egos...I would love a fun and non-conpetitive race once in a while

 

[XDesperado67]

It's less the cars and more to do with the 🤬 idiots who insist on cheating at every single opportunity to satisfy their egos...I would love a fun and non-conpetitive race once in a while

Open a cruising lobby and invite people you like to drive/chat with to cruise their favorite cars at your favorite track.

 

[f1357924680]

A lot. You'd have more luck trying RJ's Z06 RM settings on your maxed ZR1 to be honest.

Good idea but it doest work
So please can you do a tune ?

 

[GT350GT]

yeah because then you can trust them and have fun banter without offending any 6 year-olds

 

[Dragonthing]

Open a cruising lobby and invite people you like to drive/chat with to cruise their favorite cars at your favorite track.

yeah because then you can trust them and have fun banter without offending any 6 year-olds

Never works...most people I have online are busy with things like the Roadster event and all that. I can't run my own lobby either, nobody seems to ever join

 

[Highlandor]

I suck too badly to race online, as much as I'd like to...

That shouldn't matter - a good race series an organisor shouldn't discriminate against someone's skill or experience and would often have practice seesions to help people who either struggle or need a little help getting up to speed.

We've had complete noobs with us, they've come to practice sesions, listened, learned and within a month or two are racing with "official" forum drivers etc etc and no-one really knows the difference.

But, if you're relying on random lobbies for your online thrills, sorry, but you have no chance - its a complete lottery and you've about as much chance of winning the lottery as you have of finding people who would treat you like a good host / organiser should or would..

 

[racer39658]

Never works...most people I have online are busy with things like the Roadster event and all that. I can't run my own lobby either, nobody seems to ever join

That stinks that you haven't found your group yet. It took me about a month of racing online before I found a group that was there for fun, races clean, and fits my style, using more street cars on sports tires than race cars on slicks. Yeah, I don't always win, but I can stay competitive... unless I cheat and pull out the RKM Spirit R, or even the old Insight, then I clean house (and, to be honest, there's nothing quite like beating people with an Insight)

 

[Rotary Junkie]

When you say "factory" RJ I presume you means straight from the dealer in GT5??

If so, no, it doesn't have any downforce, despite, visually having what looks like a rear spoiler you buy from GT Auto for other cars and quite obvious front aero devices. Once a spoiler from GT Auto has been put on then it gets a maximum of 40 aero at the rear, can't remember the front.

This is where you're wrong.

The ACR, the 430 Scud, the 458, the Ford GT, the McLaren F1, and the list goes on all have some form of factory, non-adjustable downforce. (Another odd bit, the standard model GT has factory downforce as well, but the No Stripe (separate model) does not)

The GT Auto rear wings add 5 to the minimum rear downforce and 20 to the maximum on any vehicle they can be applied. Nothing else is changed.

This is why the ACR with a rear wing has downforce values of 10/25-40. The base downforce is 10/20. 20+5 = 25, 20+20 = 40.

Not being able to see the numbers != the numbers not being there.