RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

[Achyllis]

Hush, you, work at 10am on New Year's Day is unfortunately more important you can all try not to kill yourselves with it later today...

Iono working from 6pm till 2am at a bowling alley filled with drunks and stoners is a bit more... Interesting.

 

[VTiRoj]

I updated these guys.

 

[danbojte]

I updated these guys.

This is a very good one. A pleasure to race with it. 👍

 

[mwade93]

Thanks for posting all these tunes, they seem to be good, I will have to try them out later when I get home from work. Do you guys use a wheel or controller?

 

[VTiRoj]

This is a very good one. A pleasure to race with it. 👍

Good to hear. 👍

Thanks for posting all these tunes, they seem to be good, I will have to try them out later when I get home from work. Do you guys use a wheel or controller?

My tunes are made with a controller, as are Dragonthing's. Rotary Junkie's tunes are made with both so some will work with a wheel, some wont.

 

[mwade93]

Good to hear. 👍


My tunes are made with a controller, as are Dragonthing's. Rotary Junkie's tunes are made with both so some will work with a wheel, some wont.

Thanks, keep up the good work all three of you!

 

[Jakedog23]

VTiRoj, do you think you could do a tune on my RUF CTR2 '96 fully tuned. I will send you the car, add me at Jakedog23

Thanks

 

[VTiRoj]

VTiRoj, do you think you could do a tune on my RUF CTR2 '96 fully tuned. I will send you the car, add me at Jakedog23

Thanks

I could, but first you'd have to do us a review of one of our current published tunes. More info can be found at the bottom of the first post of this thread. 👍

 

[danbojte]

My tunes are made with a controller, as are Dragonthing's. Rotary Junkie's tunes are made with both so some will work with a wheel, some wont.

C'mon, get a wheel!

 

[VTiRoj]

C'mon, get a wheel!

I would if I didn't have two big hurdles in my way. One, I don't have any space to put the wheel and two, I can't justify spending between £100 (for a Driving Force GT) to £380 (for a Thrustmaster T500 RS) on something I'll only use for 2 games.

 

[danbojte]

I would if I didn't have two big hurdles in my way. One, I don't have any space to put the wheel and two, I can't justify spending between £100 (for a Driving Force GT) to £380 (for a Thrustmaster T500 RS) on something I'll only use for 2 games.

Hmm, too bad. Maybe, you'll re-evaluate sometime...when the time will come.

 

[Dragonthing]

If my piddly little table could hold any more with my PS3, amplifier, the smaller pair of speakers and my monitor, I'd get out my DFGT at last and use that...

 

[JackWilson]

I would if I didn't have two big hurdles in my way. One, I don't have any space to put the wheel and two, I can't justify spending between £100 (for a Driving Force GT) to £380 (for a Thrustmaster T500 RS) on something I'll only use for 2 games.

A wheel is much more fun that playing with the pad. I spent too much on mine though, and now i hardly use it, but I cannot stand playing with the pad after purchasing a wheel. If you do find room, and can afford it. Get One!!

 

[uMadson?]

I would if I didn't have two big hurdles in my way. One, I don't have any space to put the wheel and two, I can't justify spending between £100 (for a Driving Force GT) to £380 (for a Thrustmaster T500 RS) on something I'll only use for 2 games.

wheels are justifiable if your PC is good enough to run stuff like rFactor, I guess

 

[VTiRoj]

A wheel is much more fun that playing with the pad. I spent too much on mine though, and now i hardly use it, but I cannot stand playing with the pad after purchasing a wheel. If you do find room, and can afford it. Get One!!

Yeah no doubt it's more fun. I actually had a go with the Driving Force Pro on GT4 a few years ago and it was sweet. Shame it was just a demonstration booth and I couldn't take the thing home.

wheels are justifiable if your PC is good enough to run stuff like rFactor, I guess

My PC could run rFactor pretty easily. It's just I'm too casual to get into that scene. I play LFS but all I do is go on cruise servers.

 

[Jakedog23]

I could, but first you'd have to do us a review of one of our current published tunes. More info can be found at the bottom of the first post of this thread. 👍

I resently did your Chuck Tesla tune and may I say it is a very good tune. But my issue is that I like to stomp on the gas midway through the corner and the back slips out a ton, for ME at least but I still lik the tune. Just a bit of adjusting and I will love it.
P.S. I drive with DS3

 

[GavBlade]

Your spec sheet for this doesn't include an exhaust yet you say it should have 632BHP @ 92.4 miles.

Mine has zero miles on it and following your spec, mine has 592BHP. I know the power increases as you 'break the car in' but 40BHP seems a lot in just 90 miles. Should there be an exhaust aswell? Adding the Racing Exhaust takes the power to 624BHP?

 

[kingmoshoeshoe2]

A quick review of the GT-R N24-850. Slowly catching up with the Xmas seasonals eventually only the 700PP Spa in the wet race was left over. Now moving Le Mans type machinery over longer periods of time with the traction control disengaged is a tasking experience for me at the best of times, doing so in the wet truly not something I was relishing, to put it mildly.

Looking at someting close to 700PP configured for RS tyres got me to the unlikely candidate with which to best various race Peugeots, Audis and Pescarolos - namely the GT-R. Being a brand new one, it came with a puny 667PP only and a weight and drag to make the other competitors laugh in its general direction.

Somehow though, it shifted even on the rain on RS tyres and I managed to catch up something like 8 seconds on the first lap, 6 on the second and then decided to pit on the third, losing the hard won 3 places in the process.

With seven laps to go and a minute down on the leader it was not looking particularly good, especially since I had no idea how it would work on intermediates. Turns out - splendidly. From then on it was catching up at more than 10 secs a lap and in spite of the mistake of not having started on the inters (saving a pit stop), I ended the race well over a minute ahead of the next competitor - not bad for a mildly breathed upon road car with 50PP down on the best of the competition.

Now I am pretty sure the same would not have been possible in the dry but if the thought of moving LMP machinery in the wet gives you the willies, this is a car to easily net you the 2mil from the seasonals, even if your skills behind the wheel are nothing to bother the GT Academy. 👍

Even on dry tyres on a surface over 50% wet, the rear is almost impossible to unstick, and if you have a smidgeon of patience the car will not understeer, either. If you do your braking dive bomb style, the car will even nicely turn in of its own accord.

The ability to get on the gas much sooner and more heavily in the middle sector of Spa made pretty much all the difference. And the fact that you could alter your line nicely with both throttle and brakes, makes it a really easy car to drive, too.

Very well done, for the only GT-R in your stables 👍

(Minor remark - for the PP rating to work the high RPM turbo is required, as well).

 

[VTiRoj]

I resently did your Chuck Tesla tune and may I say it is a very good tune. But my issue is that I like to stomp on the gas midway through the corner and the back slips out a ton, for ME at least but I still lik the tune. Just a bit of adjusting and I will love it.
P.S. I drive with DS3

Well that is what happens when you stomp on the gas in a car with narrow, low profile tyres. I drive with a DS3 too and you just have to take care with the throttle in the Tesla. It's not as grippy as the Elise.

Your spec sheet for this doesn't include an exhaust yet you say it should have 632BHP @ 92.4 miles.

Mine has zero miles on it and following your spec, mine has 592BHP. I know the power increases as you 'break the car in' but 40BHP seems a lot in just 90 miles. Should there be an exhaust aswell? Adding the Racing Exhaust takes the power to 624BHP?

My 458F has 632bhp, I've double-checked the spec sheet and everything is in order. Thing is, if I remove all the parts from it, the "stock" power is 583bhp (@ 120 miles). A stock 0 mile 458 has 546bhp and an oil change brings it up to 574bhp, so it's probably an oil change that you're missing. I don't know why I didn't write that in the spec sheet. Although I can't remember if I oil changed it or if the car was sent to me with an oil change now.

Very well done, for the only GT-R in your stables 👍

You're forgetting these four.

GT-R
GT-R Black Mask
GT-R Spec V
GT-R Spec V TC

I know.

 

[GavBlade]

My 458F has 632bhp, I've double-checked the spec sheet and everything is in order. Thing is, if I remove all the parts from it, the "stock" power is 583bhp (@ 120 miles). A stock 0 mile 458 has 546bhp and an oil change brings it up to 574bhp, so it's probably an oil change that you're missing. I don't know why I didn't write that in the spec sheet. Although I can't remember if I oil changed it or if the car was sent to me with an oil change now.

Yep, must be oil change, mine has gone to 623bhp now 👍

 

[GavBlade]

RKM Motorsport's GT-R N24-850 Fanboi Express

Based on: Nissan GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sports '11
Obtained: Brand new model at Nissan

Drivetrain: 4WD
Horsepower: 858 BHP (@ 222.8 miles with Rebuild)
Torque:---- 93 kgfm
Weight:---- 1505 kg
PP:-------- 673

PARTS
Tuning Shop
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-Racing Flywheel
Fully Customisable LSD
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Fully Customisable Suspension
Sports Soft or Racing Soft Tyres

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Aerodynamics
Downforce: 35/60

Ballast
Amount:-- 0
Position: 0

Engine
Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Drivetrain
Differential
Initial: 10/10
Accel:-- 60/30
Braking: 10/10

Suspension
Suspension
Ride Height: 0/0
Spring Rate: 15.0/10.0
Extension:-- 7/7
Compression: 6/6
Anti-Roll:-- 2/6
Camber:----- 2.5/2.0
Toe:-------- -0.20/0.00

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6/7

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Manual (MT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:
STOP THE PRESSES! RKM have a GT-R tune! And it's the ultimate fanboi car too, racing graphics, flashy lights and driven by the god of GT5 too.

So a new GT-R has become part of GT5. Mr. Yamauchi's very own endurance racer infact, now tuned to fanboi pleasing levels on proper racing tyres and everything. With surprisingly good turn-in and grip, and just a hint of oversteer, this N24-spec GT-R is definitely one quick (if rather overweight) racer.

Another one that doesn't appear to add up. I've just applied this tune to a brand new N24 and mine has only got 630bhp?

 

[VTiRoj]

Another one that doesn't appear to add up. I've just applied this tune to a brand new N24 and mine has only got 630bhp?

Thanks to kingmoshoeshoe2's review I can tell you it needs a high RPM turbo. 👍 Dragonthing needs to edit that in at some point.

 

[GavBlade]

Thanks to kingmoshoeshoe2's review I can tell you it needs a high RPM turbo. 👍 Dragonthing needs to edit that in at some point.

Thought it might be that but didn't want to just go ahead and chuck it on if it was wrong!

 

[GavBlade]

RKM Motorsport’s High End G37

Based on: High End Performance G37
Obtained: Brand new from High End Performance

Drivetrain: FR
Horsepower: 603 BHP (@ 53.3 miles)
Torque:---- 56 kgfm
Weight:---- 1266 kg
PP:-------- 605

PARTS
Tuning Shop
Chassis Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Improvement
Window Weight Reduction
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports ECU
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Fully Customisable Transmission
Twin Plate Clutch
Semi Racing Flywheel
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Fully Customisable Suspension Kit
Sports Soft Tyres

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Aerodynamics
Downforce: 20/50

Ballast
Amount:-- 0
Position: 0

Engine
Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Transmission
Transmission
(Set Max Speed, then each individual ratio.)
1st:-- 2.993
2nd:-- 2.058
3rd:-- 1.521
4th:-- 1.201
5th:-- 1.006
6th:-- 0.862
Final: 3.500
Max Speed: 199 MPH

Drivetrain
Differential
Initial: 0/10
Accel:-- 0/29
Braking: 0/5

Suspension
Suspension
Ride Height: -30/-30
Spring Rate: 14.0/11.5
Extension:-- 9/8
Compression: 7/7
Anti-Roll:-- 4/7
Camber:----- 2.5/2.2
Toe:-------- –0.20/-0.05

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6/7

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Manual (MT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:
The High End Performance G37 is a bit porky thanks to that home entertainment system in the back, but after some further weight reduction and a bigger turbo, there’s no faster way to enjoy your PS3.

I'm on a mission today! Haven't been on the game for months and months so I'm catching up on a load of tunes!

For this one, the gear ratios are lower than you can actually go.

For 1st it says 2.993, you can only go as 3.029, 2nd says 2.058 but you can only go to 2.083, 3rd says 1.521 but you can't go lower than 1.540. The rest go low enough but if the first 3 are wrong then does that mean the others are too?

 

[VTiRoj]

I'm on a mission today! Haven't been on the game for months and months so I'm catching up on a load of tunes!

For this one, the gear ratios are lower than you can actually go.

For 1st it says 2.993, you can only go as 3.029, 2nd says 2.058 but you can only go to 2.083, 3rd says 1.521 but you can't go lower than 1.540. The rest go low enough but if the first 3 are wrong then does that mean the others are too?

They'll be the same as before. It's just the first 3 gears are a tiny bit shorter, so tiny that it makes no difference. I haven't touched that tune for ages so I'm guessing there was an update that changed the gear ratio ranges for the High End G37.

 

[Thorin Cain]

RKM Motorsport’s Locust

Based on: Lotus Evora '09
Obtained: New Car Dealership

Drivetrain: MR
Horsepower: 321 BHP (@ 222.4 miles + rebuild)
Torque:---- 292 ft-lb
Weight:---- 1117 kg
PP:-------- 500

PARTS
GT Auto
Oil Change
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Type B
PDI 525 Wheels
Engine Rebuild/Chassis Refresh once possible


Tuning Shop
Chassis Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Fiber Hood (Body Color)
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Sports Header
Twin Plate Clutch
Semi Racing Flywheel
Close Ratio 6-speed Gearbox
Fully Customizable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension Kit
Sports Hard Tires

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Aerodynamics
Downforce: 0/6

Ballast
Amount:-- 15
Position: -6

Engine
Power Limiter
Power Level: 97.3%

Drivetrain
Differential
Initial: 0/8
Accel:-- 0/15
Braking: 0/12

Suspension
Suspension
Ride Height: -20/-12
Spring Rate: 15.9/19.2
Extension:-- 8/9
Compression: 6/6
Anti-Roll:-- 4/1
Camber:----- 1.5/1.3
Toe:-------- -0.14/0.10

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6/4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Manual (MT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:
They come in swarms and destroy everything.

'nuff said.

I have been a huge fan of this car for a while now and mostly run it at 550pp, I found it was almost unbeatable on most tracks...until update 2.05 anyway. Now the set-up I used seems to turn this once great handling car into somewhat of a bike at the tight corners. I have used many of RKM's tunes and found them to be very useful indeed so I thought i'd give this one a try.

The Locust does exactly what is says on the box, at 500pp with sport tires it is a dream, just a little oversteer going into the corners and just the right amount of power to the rear wheels when the foot goes back down on the gas to give you a nice little power slide and set you up perfectly for the exit then due to seemingly endless power right through the rev range, launch you towards the next fun-filled corner to start it all over again.

Any advice on what changes to make to this set up to run at 550pp with some nice sticky racing rubber?

 

[kingmoshoeshoe2]

Another mini review - of the interesting Skyline I've long thought of trying it out at some point, and somehow never got around to it. With 910kg, a modified Skyline drivetrain including AWD, the engine in the middle and a bar of soap design, what's not to like?

It also neatly gets into the 650PP class for the seasonals, meaning loads of credits should be in one's grasp with it.

Turns out the reality is a bit more complicated than this. What you get is a car that is almost impossible to upset, with a supremely well tied down rear end (really cannot imagine how one would upset it), Saturn V acceleration but at the same time some characteristics that will have it trailing behind dedicated racers, even when both are on RS tyres and at comparable PP ratings.

The first major issue is front end grip. The car does not understeer per se - it just does not have the downforce or weight over the front wheels to dig into corners with the same conviction as a more race based offering.

The second is braking. Sure, th car is rock stable when braking, whether in a straight line or into corners, and seems to offer ample possibilities to correcting your entry line under full brakes, with no hints of protest or nervousness. At the same time the braking distances appear (not measured scientifically, of course) much longer than with comparable race based machinery.

In spite of the criticisms this is a supremely friendly 650PP road car and will work easily in pretty much every novice's hands. 👍 Once I return home and to the PS, I would love to give it a fairer test, comparing it to something road based, similarly rubbered, and similarly PPd to give a final verdict.

If you want easy wins on the 650PP seasonals, well, it certainly did not come out on top of the race BMW McLaren F1 in my hands at GVS on the first attempt. But could very well just be me or the lack of practice with the car

Btw. in order to get to 40 rear downforce it needs a wing, I gather (something vaguely seen on the small thumbnail but not in the main picture, or in the description).

 

[CyKosis1973]

They'll be the same as before. It's just the first 3 gears are a tiny bit shorter, so tiny that it makes no difference. I haven't touched that tune for ages so I'm guessing there was an update that changed the gear ratio ranges for the High End G37.

Mileage will effect things too. I've noticed on some cars that the available range for ratios can change as the engine breaks in and you change the oil. The biggie is carrying out an engine rebuild, this will almost always change the available range. This is largely why I started listing ratios as a percentage. I include the ratio numbers that I used on my own car, but appreciate that people will rarely have the same miles on the motor 👍

{Cy}

 

[VTiRoj]

Any advice on what changes to make to this set up to run at 550pp with some nice sticky racing rubber?

A lot. That tune is so many updates behind that I'm surprised it still works. You'll have to ask Rotary Junkie about fixing it up for more power and grip. 👍

Another mini review - of the interesting Skyline I've long thought of trying it out at some point, and somehow never got around to it. With 910kg, a modified Skyline drivetrain including AWD, the engine in the middle and a bar of soap design, what's not to like?

Thanks for reviewing the ol' ZZII! 👍

The front end grip was always a problem, the downforce helps a lot but it's still a high power 4WD car. It's always going to want to push a bit. Especially when the rear end is as rock solid as it is.

It does have an issue with brakes, as hinted by the 8/9 brake balance. I might have to make it 9/10 like I did with the Enzo.

I think an Aventador would be a good sparring partner for it. 👍

And yeah it appears I forgot to write the wing into the settings sheet. 👍

Mileage will effect things too. I've noticed on some cars that the available range for ratios can change as the engine breaks in and you change the oil. The biggie is carrying out an engine rebuild, this will almost always change the available range. This is largely why I started listing ratios as a percentage. I include the ratio numbers that I used on my own car, but appreciate that people will rarely have the same miles on the motor 👍

{Cy}

This is news to me. I'll have to check this out. 👍

 

[Dragonthing]

Looks like I have stuff to edit! thanks for the review on the N24 and help spotting my mistakes!