RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

I just took Rotary's Atenza tune out for a spin...

wow.

A FWD sedan on sport tires has no business being this fast, or handling this neutrally. As a side note, I did use the '07 new from the dealer instead of hunting for an '03 on the used lot, but the tune works nearly perfect on it as well - with one little tweak. I'm assuming it's because of the extra 50kg or so of the newer model, but I had to back off on the front springs - to 11.5 - because the car felt a bit too jouncy up front over bumpy sections of track. Aside from that, wow... just wow. Great work, two thumbs up.
 
Don't ask for reviews if you can't take the criticism.... Did you even try what I mentioned? What's the point in a setup as loose in the rear as it is if every time you jump on the brakes it darts off into a wall. Occasionally you'll get lucky and it may turn the direction you want it to but the setup is far from consistent.
While on the subject of the camber. You're not utilizing all of that camber with the spring setup that you have. The car is way to tight to even scuff the outsides of the tires.
I played around with it a little more and found if you straighten the tow out in the rear and bump the abs up to 2 the car is alot easier to manage on the brakes. Then take a little bit of ARB away from the front to make it turn the way it did and you have practically the same setup that can not only brake in a straight line but even turn while doing it. It's still loose enough that you can use the brakes or throttle to help steer the car.
BTW don't even think about taking the setup to a track with a few bumps. The slightest bump at speed will send it into a wall. With a few tweaks I think you have the start to a very nice setup for a smooth track.

Funny guy.

I practically built the thing at the Ring; if that's not a rough track, what exactly is? I personally have absolutely zero problems getting it to stay planted at the rear under braking.

In fact, I just went back and tested a few different settings from start to T1 at the Ring... First was your previous set of tweaks (brakes, diff, camber), then my brakes, diff, and rear camber setup, then my front camber. Your set got ~40.250, stage 2 got ~40.150, my original setup got a 40.062. The settings you gave were okayish and very easy to drive but understeered slightly at high speeds, didn't tuck back in off throttle the way I prefer, nor did they allow as much rotation under braking. The halfway settings were better at low speeds than my original setup but maintained the understeer at high speed of yours. Downforce DOES affect the needed camber angles (increases the available grip, increases forces on tire, increases need for camber) and this should not be ignored.

Sorry if you think I can't take criticism... I can and I appreciate it, just not when it's a bash on my methods on a vehicle I know doesn't behave the way stated.

This is a message for the tuners who run this showtread, i believe the hardest car to tune is the zonda r 09. It's just so powerful. I've spent actual hours tuning it in very tiny increments and it's pretty good now if i drive at my best i can beat nurber in gt all stars. But its hard... Can you tune one in the future? I will gladly share my tune info with all of you if you agree. Next post will contain tune info.

If someone is willing to send me one, sure. Got a few others that take priority as it is though.

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I just took Rotary's Atenza tune out for a spin...

wow.

A FWD sedan on sport tires has no business being this fast, or handling this neutrally. As a side note, I did use the '07 new from the dealer instead of hunting for an '03 on the used lot, but the tune works nearly perfect on it as well - with one little tweak. I'm assuming it's because of the extra 50kg or so of the newer model, but I had to back off on the front springs - to 11.5 - because the car felt a bit too jouncy up front over bumpy sections of track. Aside from that, wow... just wow. Great work, two thumbs up.

I actually have a dedicated tune for the '07, I may release it eventually. The '01 Concept version ought to take the '03's settings more accurately than the '07 (as the concept is the correct chassis) and you win it from silver A-License.

But yeah, regarding it being excessively fast... I took it online a while back and got more than a few people to ragequit after they changed the tire limits multiple times to allow them more grip... And still lost on the corners.
 
...But yeah, regarding it being excessively fast... I took it online a while back and got more than a few people to ragequit after they changed the tire limits multiple times to allow them more grip... And still lost on the corners.

Heh, I believe it. Seeing as you've done a couple Mazda's already, I was wondering if you were thinking of ever doing a tune for the MX-5? I've got a bit of a special interest in that car, since there's one sitting in my garage right now. I'd be interested to see what you'd come up with for it.
 
Heh, I believe it. Seeing as you've done a couple Mazda's already, I was wondering if you were thinking of ever doing a tune for the MX-5? I've got a bit of a special interest in that car, since there's one sitting in my garage right now. I'd be interested to see what you'd come up with for it.

Roj has an NA effectively ready to go, I have an NC that still needs tweaking as it's a bit understeery.
 
Roj has an NA effectively ready to go, I have an NC that still needs tweaking as it's a bit understeery.

To be exact, it's the J-Limited '91 that you can buy new or win from a license test. Oh and it's supercharged. ;) I'll be free tomorrow so I can post it then. 👍
 
I plan on testing your rx7 tune soon as i get funds to mod it, i picked one up from the used dealership yesterday. I have two questions...

Will you be looking at a 07 WRX STI to tune? They are amazingly fast cars
i picked up a jj-r or something? Some car that with weight reduction i got to 620kg@305hp....i put it up in a online race with cars from up to 420hp...and i destroyed them, tho my tunes skills suck and the car isnt very good at cornering...you might want to look into this car as the ULTIMATE sleeper because of its power to weight ratio
 
I tried the sledgehammer tune out and found that it had way too much understeer for my liking so I removed the negative toe in the rear and it's much better for me.
 
Any plans on tuning a Race modded 69 Camero?

Not at this very second.

Edit: Thanks, Turbo. Misspellings are annoying, particularly that one (very well known car, spelling *should* be very well known as well don't you think?).
 
Thank you you guys for the helpful information on tuning these various cars. Sadly I just saw this thread right after spending a large amount of money tuning my cars to the max. :crazy: Is it okay if I can use these settings for my max tuned cars or I have to start all over from scratch?
 
Thank you you guys for the helpful information on tuning these various cars. Sadly I just saw this thread right after spending a large amount of money tuning my cars to the max. :crazy: Is it okay if I can use these settings for my max tuned cars or I have to start all over from scratch?

Some of the cars work well fully tuned, others not so much. The Mazda6/Atenza, RX-7, Civic, S13 and Gallardo (save for the Gallardo's weight reduction) can all be returned to the specs outlined after having been fully tuned.

If you're going to review the car, do it properly with the correct specifications if you actually want something from us. If not, it's a case of use at your own risk.
 
Would the scuderia tune work on a regular f430? I got one form the lvl 12 free car gift card. I don't see much difference.

Oh and btw, I'm loving the rx7 tune. Thanks.
 
I tried the sledgehammer tune out and found that it had way too much understeer for my liking so I removed the negative toe in the rear and it's much better for me.
It's funny how such a small tweak makes a big difference eh? Glad it's working for you. 👍
May I ask why the Type A and not the Type B rear wing?

My 797 BHP R34 works with this tune but just seems a little loose in the rear end entering corners. I have a Type B rear wing though.

Purely for looks. I'm not sure if the Type B offers more or less downforce, but as long as the downforce value is the same, it shouldn't make any difference which you choose. I only specifically mention the exact parts I use at GT Auto because I figured if someone wanted to make the exact same car, it's easy to do so without worrying about which aero I used. :)

Also, your R34 is probably loose because it's got alot more power than the R34 I tuned the suspension settings with. So the way I intended the settings to work have probably been thrown out the window by the high horsepower increase.
 
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Im not a big fan of muscle cars. I bought it and used it for the Amateur Series - Classic Muscle Car.

Before i do the upgrades (just trying to save credits) i test it out. Yeah it was slow, too much sliding when exiting corners, i hit walls on tight corners. i didnt finish 1 lap of Monza. So, i have to buy all the needed parts and tuned it as recommended by RJ.

And Wow..... it really amazed me, the power, the handling. Its all there. It slides at the back a bit, but doesnt matter.

Thanks RJ.
 
I tried the Spirit R settings on my DFGT and I found it wasn't all that fast around Trial Mountain. Can't remember my laptime as it was online. Something in the 1.30.xx. Anybody else have their laptimes on Trial Mountain using these settings?
 
I will post the review for the 787B with Roj's settings soon.
Looking forward to it. 👍
Are you guys planning on a tune for the GT-R SpecV '09?
Yes please. All the ones I've seen so far have been, to put it politely, sub-par.

I'll let you in on a little secret. Me and RJ aren't exactly fans of the R35. We are fully capable of making one, but we choose not to. However, we will tune one up for you on request, if you give us a detailed review of one of our currently released cars. 👍
 
Rotary Junkie;4292984:Funny guy.

I'll take it for a spin during the weekend at the ring and test it. Calling any of these cars bad, so to speak, don't make any sense. Perhaps the real enemy here is driving skill. Who knows. Looking forward to it anyway.
 
Would the scuderia tune work on a regular f430? I got one form the lvl 12 free car gift card. I don't see much difference.

Oh and btw, I'm loving the rx7 tune. Thanks.

If memory serves the Scuderia has more downforce available; the vanilla F430 will not even touch the Scuderia in terms of performance or handling capability, but it should still feel good with my Scud setup.

Im not a big fan of muscle cars. I bought it and used it for the Amateur Series - Classic Muscle Car.

Before i do the upgrades (just trying to save credits) i test it out. Yeah it was slow, too much sliding when exiting corners, i hit walls on tight corners. i didnt finish 1 lap of Monza. So, i have to buy all the needed parts and tuned it as recommended by RJ.

And Wow..... it really amazed me, the power, the handling. Its all there. It slides at the back a bit, but doesnt matter.

Thanks RJ.

Yeah, it's definitely still a car designed in the late 60s and it shows in the handling. And the top speed. It's miles better than the GT350R in terms of grip though.

I tried the Spirit R settings on my DFGT and I found it wasn't all that fast around Trial Mountain. Can't remember my laptime as it was online. Something in the 1.30.xx. Anybody else have their laptimes on Trial Mountain using these settings?

That sounds pretty damn accurate.

Mind telling me what car you have that's faster with the same PWR that isn't Roj's NSX-R?
 
Looking forward to it. 👍



I'll let you in on a little secret. Me and RJ aren't exactly fans of the R35. We are fully capable of making one, but we choose not to. However, we will tune one up for you on request, if you give us a detailed review of one of our currently released cars. 👍

How about if i review the 787B? :dopey:
 
Tried the NSX online on the ring today. Talk about total rape. Managed to out drive gallardos, GT500 machines and even a Citroen GT after sticked on his ass and made him over speed in to corners. Was amazingly fun. Need a awesome car like this to be able to get nice times in the agonizing night time. Eating lotus elises for breakfast, as well as Scuderias and what not. Just awesome all around.

The Rx-7 as well is damn fast, so is the R34 setups. Very easy to drive on the limit at all times, but none of them was even close to the nsx times. The RX-7 on a good run got about 7:25:xx while the R34 averaged around 7:29:xx. Easy to maintain high speed trough all sectors and handling is a dream. Can't really find any of the car tunes here with any flaws. So it gets pretty bland talking about them as it's mainly same words as they all really shine...
 
Hey RJ, I noticed something whilst reading your Scuderia tune... you've got the carbon propshaft upgrade listed, but this car doesn't have one; it's mid-engined. Nothing major, just being my nit-picky self, though I thought I'd point it out.

Oh yes, and the tune itself is working well with a preliminary drive, I'll try and review it deeper later on once I have more drive time in.
 
Hey RJ, I noticed something whilst reading your Scuderia tune... you've got the carbon propshaft upgrade listed, but this car doesn't have one; it's mid-engined. Nothing major, just being my nit-picky self, though I thought I'd point it out.

Oh yes, and the tune itself is working well with a preliminary drive, I'll try and review it deeper later on once I have more drive time in.

Fixed. Let me know how it runs. 👍
 
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