Ron Howard's "Rush"

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Nice! Meanwhile, if you want to know the real story of the 1976 season (and distinguish fact from fiction in RUSH), check this documentary. Grab something to eat / drink, it's 40+ minutes, but it 's definitely worth it.


 
It has to be said: the trailer is a mess. Particularly the cinematrography; the whole thing looks over-exposed for the sake of making the colours brighter, but the problem is that the colours are already very bright on the track (making it look like a cartoon in places), and bland of the track (making it look muddy). There's absolutely no pacing to it, either. It's completely schizophrenic, unsure whether it's a film about Hunt, a film about Lauda or a film about both of them. The score is the typical Hans Zimmer when he's not working on a blockbuster like Inception - generic and, in this case, anachronistic.

Altogether, it feels like the trailer has absolutely no idea what direction it's going in, and has simply thrown together a collection of bits and pieces from each of its ideas and lazily padded it out with some vague content that could be from anything.
 
The CG is almost as bad as in Driven. I just looked up the budget and it's allegedly 38m, for reference.

I had no plans to see this but I hope it doesn't turn out like Deep Blue Sky, all drama with most of the film spent away from the film's promoted subject. A film like this should deliver a decent amount of racetrack and F1 car screentime. A film I won't want to see twice, is a film I don't want to see at all.
 
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prisonermonkeys
It has to be said: the trailer is a mess. Particularly the cinematrography; the whole thing looks over-exposed for the sake of making the colours brighter, but the problem is that the colours are already very bright on the track (making it look like a cartoon in places), and bland of the track (making it look muddy). There's absolutely no pacing to it, either. It's completely schizophrenic, unsure whether it's a film about Hunt, a film about Lauda or a film about both of them. The score is the typical Hans Zimmer when he's not working on a blockbuster like Inception - generic and, in this case, anachronistic.

Altogether, it feels like the trailer has absolutely no idea what direction it's going in, and has simply thrown together a collection of bits and pieces from each of its ideas and lazily padded it out with some vague content that could be from anything.
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I think you either watched a different trailer or had no idea of the films premise before the trailer.
 
I think that looks bloody fantastic! It seems that they've portrayed Hunt and Lauda very well indeed. I'm looking forward to September now.
 
prisonermonkeys
It has to be said: the trailer is a mess. Particularly the cinematrography; the whole thing looks over-exposed for the sake of making the colours brighter, but the problem is that the colours are already very bright on the track (making it look like a cartoon in places), and bland of the track (making it look muddy). There's absolutely no pacing to it, either. It's completely schizophrenic, unsure whether it's a film about Hunt, a film about Lauda or a film about both of them. The score is the typical Hans Zimmer when he's not working on a blockbuster like Inception - generic and, in this case, anachronistic.

Altogether, it feels like the trailer has absolutely no idea what direction it's going in, and has simply thrown together a collection of bits and pieces from each of its ideas and lazily padded it out with some vague content that could be from anything.
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The trailer's showing that the film's about an era, or event. The star of the show is the setting and rivalry, not one particular person. The story will revolve around James Hunt though of course, but the trailer doesn't need to establish that.

The big problem to me is that, to those not knowing the story, it makes no sense at all. They're over emphasizing "epic."

They need to show James as being a danger, and previous failure. Show Niki as the established power, threat, snob, entitled champion.

I would've went for a much more upbeat and happy start, showing James coming up before McLaren and his "hunt the shunt" years. Then '76, with Niki powering away, showing the collision between them at Silverstone. Driving home James as the underdog. Then the trailer would take a turn in tempo and mood toward the dark showing Niki's crash. Then explain how it was going to come down to a final race since Niki persevered, ignoring his state to give James a run for his money.

Also, Led Zeppelin instead of the score x)

But I'm very much looking forward to the film itself, which I'm confident will be great. There've been lots of great movies with bad trailers and vice versa, no need to get bothered by it. I know you're just talking about the trailer though, and not what you think the film will be.

They did show juxtaposition between two men, the playboy vs. the engineer, well though.
 
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Not sure if Hunt can be labeled as a "previous failure", he did after all manage to extract a win from that oh-so-peculiar Hesketh team.

But of course the dare devil "Hunt the Shunt" was not supposed to be a match to the mighty Niki Lauda and by being so he really did surprise many.

After watching (twice already) that fabulous BBC documentary I linked above, I got to say the 1976 season was indeed interesting. Although there's a slight british bias (to be expected anyway, the documentary is more about Hunt than anything else), it's almost funny to watch the Brands Hatch crowd chanting "WE WANT HUNT! WE WANT HUNT!", Making James get back to a race he was out of because of a simple mistake ... and comedic to understand what some obviously tiffosi carabinieri officers managed to do to McLaren before the Italian GP (not that McLaren wouldn't cheat if they could, but those pesky italians went too far with their suspicions :lol: )

Anyway, I didn't know/remember Lauda had campaigned among the F1 drivers of the era for a no-show at the Nurburgring, as it is told in the documentary, but I guess that's the drivers meeting we are seeing in the trailer (where Bruhl/Lauda says "I'm the fastest of us all" and Hemsworth/Hunt replies "then let's race").

It'll be an interesting movie, I just hope the "bed scenes" don't take too much out of the actual racing scenes.

PS - Although I enjoyed a priceless moment in the Beeb's documentary (at about 2:20 ) where Hunt is obviously comparing - and I guess saying something about it - the frontal airbags of the two bunnies he's hugging :lol:
 
Wardez makes a great point although I won't form an opinion until seeing the actual movie.. Really looking forward to it, classic F1 cars and Olivia Wilde will make for a great "eye candy" movie if nothing else.
 
Wardez
The trailer's showing that the film's about an era, or event.
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I'm perfectly aware of that.

I made it pretty clear that the trailer's problems are technical problems. I'm talking about film-making techniques, not the content of the trailer.
 
prisonermonkeys
I'm perfectly aware of that.

I made it pretty clear that the trailer's problems are technical problems. I'm talking about film-making techniques, not the content of the trailer.
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And your a pro on film making techniques now?
 
It's one of the subjects that I teach, and one of my favourites. I might not be an expert, but I do know something on the subject.

The trailer is not a disaster - but nor is it brilliant. It's a messy, slap-dash affair to begin with, and it's let down by poor cinematography and a pedestrian score.
 
Trailer looks very "Hollywood" and very reminiscent of Driven. Hemsworth doesn't really work as James Hunt either.

But, its still exciting and we don't exactly have a great selection of motorsport (nevermind F1) films out there. Its great to finally have some more F1 given the Hollywood treatment. Daniel Bruhl makes a fantastic Lauda as well.

Its kind of funny to think that the Hill/Schumacher fight of 1994 was not hugely different except in that case it was Ayrton's death and the Williams team's determination as opposed to Lauda's fight back from near-death.
Maybe we'll get a film of that one day as well, though I guess its over-shadowed by Senna really.

prisonermonkeys
It has to be said: the trailer is a mess. Particularly the cinematrography; the whole thing looks over-exposed for the sake of making the colours brighter, but the problem is that the colours are already very bright on the track (making it look like a cartoon in places), and bland of the track (making it look muddy). There's absolutely no pacing to it, either. It's completely schizophrenic, unsure whether it's a film about Hunt, a film about Lauda or a film about both of them. The score is the typical Hans Zimmer when he's not working on a blockbuster like Inception - generic and, in this case, anachronistic.
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Hmm, I'd say the over-exposure in the racing action bits is probably intentional, to contrast the darker realities of life with the glamorous, dangerous and exciting world of motor racing.

Also, the film is about both Hunt and Lauda, I think the trailer is pretty clear about that. Considering its just a trailer, it doesn't necessarily need "pacing". A trailer is 2 minutes or less, pretty obviously that tends towards quick action scenes and one-liners rather than "pacing".
It seems like you're critiquing a trailer as if its a film. Its not, its a trailer.
 
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Mac K
Wardez makes a great point although I won't form an opinion until seeing the actual movie.
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Although, extra chewy brownie points for using accurate machinery and not trying to re-label the hell out of everything. It's very obviously not a complete documentary of the season.

Whatever...it's a movie, people. I can't wait, to be honest.
 
It looks ok, it left me wanting more which is the main point of a trailer.

Ardius
Hemsworth doesn't really work as James Hunt either.
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I think Chris has more or less been typecast as Thor, at least in my opinion he has.
 
Wardez
The big problem to me is that, to those not knowing the story, it makes no sense at all. They're over emphasizing "epic."
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Just going to re-enforce this part as someone who just barely understands the story. The trailer doesn't really do a good job at explaining what's going on except that there's a rivalry between 2 F1 drivers. Everything seems incredibly over dramatic, over exaggerated from the cars leaving the line, to the aerial views, to the way the actors talk, & so for. I mean, there looked like there were 2-3 different scenes of Hemsworth & Wilde embracing within' 2 seconds of each scene.

And is it me, or did hearing Hemsworth's first few lines sound as if he was still in Thor? I guess that's just how he talks, but that's all I imagined.

I still want to see it because I'm positive the tone of the film isn't quite as 'action-packed, in-your-face, here's-a-sex-scene & explosions' as the trailer presented.
 
I think what we'll have here is Hunt and Lauda presented as 2 anti-hero characters, which would be the best way to screenplay this I think, rather than the hero/villain kinda path they went down with the Senna documentary/film.
 
You know, most of all, I really want this film to succeed for two important, personal, reasons.
If it's successful then more people will get into F1, in the US especially, and hopefully more major production F1 movies and documentaries will be looked at strongly as well. There are so many amazing stories they could tell.
 
RTSolvalou
I think what we'll have here is Hunt and Lauda presented as 2 anti-hero characters
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Neither of them fit the mold of the anti-hero. Anti-heroes tend to be protagonists who do not have any heroic virtues or qualities. Any virtues they do have are marginalised by their actions. For example, in the film Serenity, Nathan Fillion's character kills an unarmed civilian who is asking him for help so as to save him from a gruesome and brutal death. When challenged on it, he admits that he could have taken the civilian, but doing so would have put his crew's lives and livelihood at stake (for reasons that are too complicated to explain). That's an example of an anti-hero. Hunt and Lauda don't fit that mold.
 
That's not the way I define the anti-hero, for me it only means the guy that does what he does because that's what he's supposed to do and not because it takes any heroism to do it.

I am keeping my expectations low on RUSH. Surely not expecting a raw gem like "Le Mans" and about anti-heros that's probably a good movie to look into. I got this review from Imdb and it writes about something I'm not expecting from RUSH better than I could.

"It's always the dispassionate films executed in documentary style that show us what mankind is truly capable of and consequently make us passionate. Kubrick did as much regarding space travel in 2001: A Space Odyssey, as did Wise in his portrayal of scientific method in The Andromeda Strain. When Delaney (McQueen) undramatically explains his motivation for returning to the most demanding of the GT endurance races with the plainly delivered words "When you're racing - it's life. Anything that comes before or after is just waiting" we realise that any emotional content delivered on top of the actions of such men would be superfluous, or would even detract from their achievements.

To the unfamiliar viewer, raised on the formulaic and dependable sports action drama, the tension is in all the wrong places. The start of the race, effectively a 15 minute build up to the 4 o'clock commencement climaxing in Delaney's racing heartbeat and the roar of 50 or so competition engines - has us more wound up than the sequence portraying the final lap (but only just). Similarly, the scene in which Delaney's team manager (Ronald Leigh-Hunt) orders him back on the circuit after a near-fatal accident is without the (surely obligatory nowadays?) show of defiant reluctance - Delaney is hardly the identikit Hollywood hero whom we could expect to confront authority armed to the teeth with the usual cocky dialogue. Quite the opposite. Delaney - the lop-sided figure quite unable even to cope with a confrontation with a fellow racing-driver's widow without feeling awkward realises that, rather narrowly, he is able only to drive faster than most other professional drivers and that he has no self-affirming existence outside of the demands and constraints of the team.

For all those who believe that the heroes of this world are those who rebelliously reject such impositions on the 'free-spirited' individual - whether they be the social class-based constraints of Titanic or the intellectual ones of Dead Poets Society - the film will no doubt descend into lap upon lap of fast Ferraris and Porsches (as it did for the Time Out film reviewer). Those of us who know that mankind's most towering achievements (winning an event such as the 24 hours of Le Mans being no exception) have been constructed by relatively stunted men and women will sympathise with the character of Michael Delaney. Delaney is no hero, but is all the more heroic for it."
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Heh, I just noticed Chris commented on the teaser trailer from last year on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peowCAPGeQ
Chris Hemsworth
i hope all of you will like this movie. it was sooo hard being so thin and then bulking up fast for thor 2. word of advise, DON'T BE AN ACTOR. still working out 3 hours a day and eating a lot of protein. im in London right now! cheerio!
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I find this oddly humbling for a Hollywood actor to just be randomly commenting on a youtube video for a film he's in. 👍
 

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