RVV Motor Works - White Knight - 10/02/10

[Rotary Junkie]

VtiRoj, I just noticed: You said you brought the Supra's power:weight ratio down.

Yeah. Because what everyone calls P:W is W. So instead of each hp having to move X amount of weight, now each hp has to move Y amount of weight, with Y being lower.

 

[VTiRoj]

^Few new cars? lol, I'll be sure to give you guys a review or two...

VtiRoj, I just noticed: You said you brought the Supra's power:weight ratio down.

Cool.

Uh, oops.

Yeah I had a brainfart there. No one noticed in the VTC though, so well done. :tup:

I'll edit it so it says weight: power ratio instead, like it was supposed to.

 

[Vince247]

Facts:

specs
300 Hp @ 5500 RPM
490 Nm @ 4000 RPM
1230 kg

performance
0-60(MPH): 4.357 s
1/4 mile: 12.705 s
Citta d' Aria: 1'38.799

Parts:

- Racing exhaust
- Brake Balance Controller
- FC suspension
- FC Transmission + LSD
- VCD
- Sports Soft(S3)

Settings:

BBC: 4/4

Suspension:
5.0/4.5
145/145
5/4
6/5
1.5/2.0
-2/-1
4/5

LSD: F 10/18/7, R 10/30/10
VCD: 35

Down: 12/16

Transmission:
- auto: 9
- final: 3.950
- gearing: [2.915, 2.020, 1.500, 1.166, 0.950, 0.800]

Driving aids: OFF(!)

Description:

1998 was the final year for the Escort as Ford's works rally car, as the all new Focus WRC was due to replace it in 1999. The Escort still proved to be a competitive car in it's last year as a works car scoring several 2nd and 3rd places overall, and giving Finnish driver Juha Kankkunen 4th place in the Drivers Championship. Ford also finished 4th in the Constructors Championship behind Mitsubishi, Toyota and Subaru.

The season opening Monte Carlo Rally saw Spaniard Carlos Sainz win in his Toyota Corolla WRC with this car coming second, 4 mins and 28 seconds behind the winners. This time around, RCV/RVV decided to make a winner out of it.

Like most of it's contemporaries, the Escort WRC has an advanced four wheel drive system and is powered by a turbocharged 2 litre four cylinder engine, producing around 300bhp. It has a stripped out lightweight interior with a substantial roll cage, sequential gearshift and extra timing and navigation equipment for the co-driver.

Now, let's hope you don't scare the **** out of your co-driver, lets take it for a ride!

(Edit: thank VTiRoj for the toe, camber and stabilisers)

 

[Skygrasper550]

wow, that Ford Escort just looks damn cool.., ah yes, the greatest rally car of all time..,

hey, shouldn't your garage be called RVV, not RCV?? look like someone needs to do a little editing around here..,

@ VTiRoj - i'm surprised, you are now a member of RVV.., well, looking forward to testing your tunes.., 👍

BTW, since 'Stang Man Vince here tested my Subbie, i'll test your (pertaining to you 3) Subbie too..,

 

[Rotary Junkie]

hey, shouldn't your garage be called RVV, not RCV?? look like someone needs to do a little editing around here..,

Technically that or RRV again. But it's enough Photoshop work to keep the best busy for a few days.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Hey Vince, I just posted my newest car in Aussie Tuners, if you really want to you an test it now, but I won't force you
Some time I really must get around to driving some of the new cars here.

 

[Vince247]

@ Drifting: Yeah, I should. Editing takes some time. Your review is on the way, took me some time, but was really fun!

@ Holden: Yeah if I can find some time, don't be scared to remind me if it takes too long.

Now, I should be getting on with school work, so probably tonight I'll find me some time for GTP business.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

NSX Type R Evo II Review
Aycorumba GT4 looks like GT1 after playing GT5, and the controls again took some getting used to, especially my bung controller, but I roughly got there in the end.

Well, when a British mate of mine invited me to come and drive his NSX Type R I agreed and booked the next flight to the UK. I knew this was the same car I judged at the world renowned TCV3, but I had never driven it anywhere other than the touge track. As I walked up to the car and was greeted by Roj, I looked at the year old paint job, it was not like new and had scratches all over the bumpers. I knew it had been well used, and as I walked around I was reminded of what I was in for by the little red 'H' badges on front and rear. Roj handed me the keys and I jumped in, gripped the wheel and turned the ignition. On the first flying lap my initial impression was wow, this thing still doesn't disappoint in grip at higher speeds. This was until I reached the GVS high speed sweepers before the tight hairpin. The car got loose here and it took some effort to regain control. The rest of the lap was fine though, with good turn-in and great grip through all the corners. Roj was talking to me by radio from the pits, saying he didn't like how I was driving the car, and being so reckless. I apologised and explained I had not been on this track in a little while, and indeed was off on vacation for some time. With the times I was putting down I decided enough was enough and put my arse into gear. I set a reasonably respectable flying lap time of 1'54.789. I could have gone faster with more time but Roj was paying for the fuel and so I came back into the pits. I gave him a summary of the handling:
Pros- Great grip in most corners, good turn in, very responsive.
Cons- Gets a little loose in high speed sweepers, a bit twitchy (which could easily be acredited to my vacation)
With that I handed back the keys and told him "Any time mate." It was dusk by this time, but I noticed him looking at a Supra 3.0GT Turbo. Alright, in the morn we will meet here again and I will drive your Supra. I seem to remember driving it once already a long time ago when we barely knew each other, I hope you've fixed the faults since last time.

 

[VTiRoj]

Wow! What a review! Thanks nd 4 holden spd.

If you ever need a car requested, well I'm here pretty much 24/7. And yeah, BP Ultimate 102 isn't cheap.

I did fix the faults, or tried to back after the VTC. But I didn't add them to the settings sheet because well, I didn't think I'd ever post them up again. So when I posted the settings to RCV, they didn't have my improvements. So actually the Supra posted at the moment is the one you drove from the VTC, but if you'll give me a sec I'll add the tweaks I put into the suspension that I should of before.

Again, thanks for the review. :tup:

I guess we each have 1 setup request "credit" each now?

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Ahh, don't mention it I doubt I shall be requesting any cars soon as it's very hard to pull away from GT5 at the moment. Tell me when the new settings for the Supra are up. In the mean time though, cop this:

"Silver Banshee" RX-7 FC3S Review
Actually mine is purple.
That night when I got back to my hotel room I received a call from "The Flying Kangaroo" (QANTAS) informing me that there were some techincal difficulties they were experiencing and the plane I was meant to be boarding the following afternoon would need repairs, meaning the soonest flight I could board was a few days away. I rang Roj afterwards informing him the news. He told me that was no problem and he actually had a couple cars I could test while I am here, and then proceeded to tell me that Rotary Junkie was in UK for the week as well, and I should drive his NSX while I'm at it. I happily agreed and met him at the track the next day. The Supra was not there that morning, instead I find an FC RX-7 and Roj informs me that the Supra is having work done to it. After some idle chit chat about the world of cars today, he handed me the keys again and I jumped in the RX-7. The intial feel was the complete opposite of his NSX, it got loose in low speed corners, but wasn't bad, and through high speed corners stuck to the road like chewing gum to a shoe. The brakes were also really impressive on this car, with great stopping power (I figured the great big wing out back helped here) and really good turn-in. I could tell it wasn't as fast as the NSX and the lap times showed, with a modest lap I recorded a 1'59.613. The car was also not as responsive as the NSX but it probably helped to blunten and prevent the low speed oversteer. I filled him in on the pros and cons over radio as I drove this time, and one lap flying past the pit lane I noticed Rotary Junkie had arrived and was standing behind the pit wall with Roj. A few laps more and I came into the pits. Time was flying quickly today, and it was already lunch time. We headed out to lunch, with Rotary Junkie constantly making snyde remarks about me actually enjoying driving a rotary. That afternoon I was to drive his NSX.

 

[VTiRoj]

Another review! Thanks x2.

The FC is actually 1 second off the NSX-R at Trial Mountain. Although I'm not suprised at the 5 second difference at GVS, since the NSX-R does have a lot more muscle.

The Supra is ready, I updated the settings right after posting my previous reply.

So thats 2 tuning credits.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

First RJ's NSX, then the Supra, then MFT's Ford GT. Expect my little story I got going to continue in the rest of the reviews.

 

[VTiRoj]

Woot.

I'm liking the story, especially since I'm in it.

 

[Vince247]

Haha, funny story that is. Great reviews!

 

[Skygrasper550]

finally, here is my review of

Bunta's Impreza

first of all, i would like to ask a few questions:

in the parts list, there is no FC tranny. i understood the stock gears were already perfect. but how about the oil change and rigidity refresh?? i took those into account when i tested it.

...so, after 3 days, my review is up now!! i tested it on 2 tracks: Suzuka and Citta 'di Aria.

1st test track : Suzuka Circuit

Me and Vince made a deal about a week ago, that we would drive each other's Subbie Impreza. After him driving my 22B, it's my turn to drive his Coupe R. So, I borrowed his car for a test spin around Suzuka, because he said that this car is made for that track. So here I go, a time attack around the full course. First corner, braked to get the speed right, no problem there. Also with the second one. Next comes the S curves, the Subbie went smoothly there. I understeered a bit on the Dunlop curve, but that's fine. Next comes Degner, i went into the grass because my car understeered, i thought i had braked enough well anyway, after clearing the hairpin, i got no understeer on 200R and on Spoon corner. Coming next is the 130R, that blasted corner, i always get off the track because i just can't tackle that cursed curved patch of road Casio Triangle, there the car's brakes are to be tested. the Subbie stopped in a dime, thanks to the high-grip tires and reduced weight. Then the final sweeper. Very smooth out there, no understeer while flooring it. It was a splendid drive, this car IS built for Suzuka. but let's face it, that's not the track i realy wanted to test this car. Moving on, to my *cough* home course...

2nd test track : Citta 'di Aria

Time to push this car to the limits. Circuit is one thing, Touge is another. First sequence of corners, not bad, although I had to get used to the huge amount of body roll a bit of understeer at the hairpin and also at the sweeper. On the long straight, great acceleration. But how about the brakes?? I slammed on them as hard as I could because the esses were coming up next. A bit rough, I can't make the car go in the direction I wan to because of the weight shifting & body roll, so I experienced a few bumps. Not to worry, I got the hang of it. The second long straight is up. As my speedometer reached 210 km/h, I slammed on the brakes again, wonderful. It slowed me down enough to tackle the chicane and the hairpin. The ascent was a snap, It had sharp uphill acceleration.

Summary: This car is great for circuit and touge races. Has good stopping power and handling, acceleration out of corners was a breeze. I want to keep this car, but I am saving for a Mitsubishi Evo VIII Super Rally Car but don't worry, once i get enough cash, I'll rebuild this. I admit, this car is better than my 22B, a fine Subaru you have here.., 👍👍

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Honda NSX Type R Zero Review
We came back to the track after lunch (Pizza FTW) and once more I put my racing helmet back on in preparation to drive RJ's NSX. He said nothing other than drive it like I stole I stole it as an evil smile twisted into shape on his face. "No problem mate", I said as I adjusted the seat and wheel to my height. Then out of the blue he asked if he could drive the Ghost GTO which I brought along for the trip for my get around car. Sure I said, and we both headed out on track in each other's cars. With the GTO out in front he just launched away from me out of the pits thanks to the gob fulls of torque the GTO has, but I quickly passed him in the first corner while he smoked up the tyres, and I then proceeded to the full course while he tackled the East Section. As I warmed up the tyres I could feel the rears already wanting to break away. Then on to the first flying lap. The car's breaks were a little weak but the turn-in was relatively good. Coming out of the corners I planted it and she began to power slide at an impressive pace. Some corners I was driving normal, and others I was power sliding to get the most out of the car. It was quite responive, just like Roj's, who was still standing in pit lane, watching the darkening sky above. The car was naturally not as quick as Roj's, as this was a more mild tune, but that made it no less fun to drive. I began to forget whether I was power sliding or driving grip through each corner, and simply doing what was necessary to be fast. I was being informed of my lap times, which were consistently just under 2mins, over the radio, and was also told there was a storm approaching. Typical UK weather I thought. As rain dops began to fall on the windscreen I headed for the pits where RJ and Roj were already waiting. I informed RJ of the pros and cons:
Pros- Good turn-in, controllable and usable power oversteer, good feedback and responsive, grips when power oversteer isn't needed.
Cons- If this were an all out grip tune the oversteer, but it isn't.
We ran into one of the pit lane garages, where our cars were all parked, as the rain now began to really hammer down. Roj and RJ left their cars at the track in the garages, and we jumped in my GTO and headed home. I dropped off Roj at his house, and me and RJ were coincidentally staying at the same hotel, different rooms, so we then headed back. The next day the rain continued to belt the UK, and so we headed over to Roj's house and pretty much played Sony all day. I received a phone call that day from MFT informing me they had a Ford GT they would love for me to drive, so I arranged to leave for Finnland in a few days. Roj also informed me he finished tweaking the Supra's suspension that morning (was just a case of changing settings, he had already done the test driving). Tomorrow I was to drive his Supra.

Edit: Oh yeah, RJ, you forgot FC Transmission on your car's parts list.

Supra 3.0GT Turbo Review
The next day I was suffering from jet lag and slept in until 1pm. By this time however, the newly appeared Sun had essentially dried out the track, so I got my race gear and headed down to the track where I found RJ and Roj having a race between Silver Banshee and the NSX Type R Zero. I called them in on radio, and Roj handed me the keys to the Supra. I wasn't expecting much compared to the other cars, and I was right to do so. Upon driving it it felt much slower than the other 3 and lap times showed it with a modest lap recording a 2'06.798. The car had good turn-in, and even better, tapping the brakes mid-corner made no difference in line other than tightening it up a bit, the brakes were tuned harmoniously with the car's handling. Although power sliding was fun, it did not make this car quick like it did in the NSX Zero, and just hurt lap times which was just a little disappointing (The car oversteered at low speeds). The car responded well to inputs and I had fun driving it, but it's not exactly going to break lap records. It handled pretty well at high speeds. When I pulled in to the pits for the last time on this vacation, I congratulated RJ and Roj for making such nice cars to drive. That night I went back to the hotel room and began packing my things ready to leave for Finnland in the morning.

 

[VTiRoj]

Thanks for the 3rd review! Damn you've reviewed all my cars now... I should tune some more.

Have a safe trip to Finland.

My Silver Banshee won against RJ's NSX-R Zero though right?

 

[Vince247]

Thanks mate for reviewing my Scooby! Yeah it could be understeery at times, if you take it to the limit. I personally did some little adjustments to it to make it "Citta proof", as you can read in my review.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Thanks for the 3rd review! Damn you've reviewed all my cars now... I should tune some more.

Have a safe trip to Finland.

My Silver Banshee won against RJ's NSX-R Zero though right?

I think the NSX could win if lots of time was spent with both, but during reviews lap times were near identical.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Thanks mate for reviewing my Scooby! Yeah it could be understeery at times, if you take it to the limit. I personally did some little adjustments to it to make it "Citta proof", as you can read in my review.

uh, i think you didn't notice my question in my review..,

in the parts list, there is no FC tranny. i understood the stock gears were already perfect. but how about the oil change and rigidity refresh?? i took those into account when i tested it.

did you forget to put in the oil change and rigidity refresh?? or are they not really included in the list??

 

[Vince247]

Oh sorry, forgot to mention about that. Oil change and rigidity refresh are recommended, yes. FC Tranny wasn't applied because it's already good.

 

[Skygrasper550]

oh i see.., don't worry, I took the oil change & rigidity refresh into account when I tested your car, the stock tranny was good enough 👍 i enjoyed driving your Subbie, in fact, I plan to re-build it once i have enough cash, because that Lancer Evo VIII Rally Car ate my 1,250,000 .., 👍

 

[Vince247]

Oh please do, I'm planning on doing a retune of it anyway. The LSD needs some tweaking and the front brakes are a bit rough, giving you some understeer.

 

[EA11R]

I've tested RJ's NSX:

The cornering attitude is interesting, and just as you said it would be. Every time it's gently eased into a corner (or savagely thrown, for that matter), it rewards the driver with a slight oversteer the whole way through. And, through it's difficult to notice at first, the cornering speeds are actually fairly epic. The soft suspension settings of the final tune relieve some of the 'forced' feeling of the car modified without your settings applied, though it does have the inverse effect of the feeling of control over the car feeling much more delicate. It seems that, if I lift off the throttle, the whole affair will whirl out of control at high speed. While practical for slipstreaming AI racers, the gear ratios seem a bit too tall in their present form. Extreme oversteer, too is a bit of a problem. It's not that it's very present, but when a driver does make an orchestrated effort to drift, the oversteer comes in tiny portions at first, then randomly hurls the rear end out with great force. Technically, it's controllable, but not very graceful.

Overall, though, it's quite a good tune: Swift, slightly oversteery, and conrollable (as suits your self-description). But, it could do with slightly shorter gear ratios. (The lumpy manner in which the huge oversteer presents itself is, I sense, more a problem with GT4 than with this NA1.) Thus, I give it a 9/10!

P.S.: FC tranny isn't listed in the parts list, that should be rectified.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Yep, it had been using a stock tranny for a while when I first built it, didn't realize I hadn't put it in the parts list.

Fixed, and thank you for the review. Anything you want tuned? I'm a bit poor in GT4 right now, seeing as I had to start over. <.<

 

[EA11R]

Maybe eventually. I've recently begun the habit of testing cars with no plans at all to request anything. Which means that I'm building up a huge library of requests!

Actually, once I get around to it, I do have something in mind, but you will just have to wait and see what it is, once I finally win the car.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Parts List
FC Suspension
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
FC LSD

The Setup

SUSPENSION:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Spring Rate:-------4.0/3.7
Ride Height:-------130/130
Shock Bound:-------4/4
Shock Rebound:-----5/5
Camber:------------1.5/1.3
Toe:---------------0/0
Stabilizers:-------2/2
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Transmission:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Reset to default. Autoset to 13, then set ratios and final.
Ratios of: [2.750/1.800/1.290/1.000/0.815/0.680]
Final of 4.300.

LSD/Downforce and others:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
LSD: 15/30/18

Brake Balance: --/--

Ballast Weight: 0kg

Ballast Balance: 0 (rearward)

Downforce: None

Aids: None at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------


Notes: Nismo figured they could get rid of most of the RPS13 chassis' understeer with a call to us, and they were right. We had them cook up a six-speed gearbox with ratios to our specs, along with a custom limited-slip rear differential.

This particular car also benefits from an optional lightweight flywheel, triple plate clutch, and carbon driveshaft. The increase in acceleration is akin to about 50hp, which will make those seemingly-impossible-according-to-the-stats-of-this-and-the-competitors races much easier.

 

[EA11R]

On S2's? It's practical, but you don't see that very often, for some reason...

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Yeah, S2s and stock power.

A-spec special.

 

[EA11R]

Good call, I'll need to see if this one is escpecially useful.