SCC - Ferrari 355 Challenge Series - Series Complete, results posted!

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So did I. You are too fast even in reading, I wasn't fast enough to edit :)

Yeah, after all the bugs I wouldn't be surprised if that would be one of them too. And as I said, it was my own times that got me thinking, not yours. I was expecting you to hit 28's from the moment I drove that 29'56. Right after that I thought that "Hmm, this is a long track so Alan is going to drive 2'28." :)
 
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Hi guys,

Jut for the record, if you look at some of my videos, you can clearly see, on some laps, when crossing the start finish line, I was losing a few tenths as well. There was one where I was ahead of Derek and after crossing the line he suddenly warped up along side me (although from his perspective it probably looked like I warped BACK along side him). And in another, you could see where my car appeared to stand still while fingers suddenly shot forward into the distance.

I think this is also what happened between Henrik and I during the Hockenheim race. So it's potentially 'dangerous' if you're right behind the person when it happens. Although in this race, and thank goodness, I only lost a bit of time and gave a position. And I was able to have some VERY close racing with Biggles and Derek in other sections of the track without much worry.

As far as the Seb Vettel scenario and the fact that it's possible to put in a better lap in the race than it is in TT, well, I think we have to consider that fuel loads, tire wear and setup changes that might be of use in qualifying but too extreme for the race, aren't really taken into account in this game. And in the real world, those would likely make the difference. I can also tell you that I'm just not precise enough of a driver that I can put in the 'ultimate' lap at will. Where as after running 15~20 laps, you really build up a rhythm and shave off a few tenths here or there. The fact that my two best laps of the race were the last and 2nd to last is very telling.

Anyway, it's an interesting discussion between the two of you. And i wanted to mention that I've now linked the LAST video for the race. It's up on the previous page (middle of the two from the wet race). A bit embarrassing at times but funny in retrospect.
 
Hi guys,
Jut for the record, if you look at some of my videos, you can clearly see, on some laps, when crossing the start finish line, I was losing a few tenths as well.

I saw that now. :banghead:

Damn. I can't believe this game sometimes.
 
Guess I missed all the fun...:ouch::grumpy:


As JJ says it is very interesting to read Your discussion,and if that's possible I think that You're both right...:dopey:
I agree with Lassi when he says that in "normal" circumstances a qualify or practice lap(in long sessions not in ours events where You have only "a go " at it)tends to be faster because the driver can take risks with little consequences,where in a racing environment people tend to worry with finishing positions and therefore prone to have a more safe pace.(Albeit Jeff raised some very good points like fuel consumption and tyre wear and qualifying setups)
But as Alan said there are times when a driver(even in Real life events) founds a better pace during a long race unpuzzling a specific section of a track, especially in long ones like Spa,although sometimes some drafting is involved-note that I'm not telling this was the case-specially if,as I think it was the case in Spa,unlike Vallelunga or Monza for example,people didn't practice to exhausting every little piece of the track the fastest way possible and figured out something a little bit faster in a long race.

Either way as You both said with all the bugs involved in this game we will never be absolutely sure!:yuck:

Either way You all did amazingly fast laps and I'm sure You all had much fun.👍
The way I see it my weekend out spare me from a major butt kick.:dunce:


P.S: Those little freezes You guys mentioned I get all time either on,or,offline in some specific spots in some specific tracks...I almost got used to them:ill:
 
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Hi guys
I know this game sometimes does strange things,and I think there maby is something wrong with the timing.But only speaking for myself I know that when I practice I'm allways driving "safe",but when I race I dont have the split-times like I do in practice,so I dont take chances and maby thats why you get more clean laps.All I know is when I race online I'm able to improve my times.Maby it's just from having alan in front or behind that gives that little bit extra.
 
I get those freezes all the time. I just presumed that the car keeps moving; keeps accepting the throttle input.

It commonly happens at Nurburgring between turns 10/11, Redwood before coming onto the longish back-straight, and a few other places too. And there are additional ones which show up in new places frequently.

That's a serious problem. The integrity of the lap timing is fundamental to the whole point of a racing game. Groan.
 
i dont know too much on the last posts , never noticed im too busy trying too keep the dam car in a streight line :)
great series jj i enjoyed the races and the practice. maximum kudos to you.

i was very lucky with the result of my first race this weekend thanks to simcoeace and turnupdaheat on the last lap , them 2 were having a real battle as i could see the name change on my screen . but i put in some half decent laps and set my pb so i was ready for the opportunity
the wet race was not so good and was alot shorter by comparison.things were just getting interesting for me as i went over the Finish line and would've loved to seen 6 more laps.
sorry redgate for the bump at the chicane my car was aqua planning into that corner (i did actually brake 100m earlier than usual) . im no where near as good as my finishing position says.

well done to henrik for great wheel driving , and im sure if a few of the others did more races i would have been well down the pecking order .

thanks again see you on the track .
 
"sorry redgate for the bump at the chicane my car was aqua planning into that corner"

Thats ok i knew it was a mistake, i made quite a few myself.:)

Thanks again to jj for your efforts, this was the highest standard online race i've taken part in, with some exceptional performances.
 
Jut for the record, if you look at some of my videos, you can clearly see, on some laps, when crossing the start finish line, I was losing a few tenths as well. There was one where I was ahead of Derek and after crossing the line he suddenly warped up along side me (although from his perspective it probably looked like I warped BACK along side him). And in another, you could see where my car appeared to stand still while fingers suddenly shot forward into the distance.

Uhuh. Good that you got that on tape. It would be interesting to know, what actually happens in the PS3 during those things and what causes it. Everything seems to go just fine and suddenly you loose a lot of time. Without another car on the side, it can be really hard to even notice these things happening.

As far as the Seb Vettel scenario and the fact that it's possible to put in a better lap in the race than it is in TT, well, I think we have to consider that fuel loads, tire wear and setup changes that might be of use in qualifying but too extreme for the race, aren't really taken into account in this game.

Yes, this was kind of the whole point in my scenario. Only difference in these games we play between practice laps and race, is the pressure to bring the car home in one peace in race. But as you said, we are different. Some can take that ultimate pace in race too. I usually drive a little bit over my limits in practice and then in race I just bring the risk level bit down. Brake couple of meters earlier, if the car becomes unstable when coming out of the corner I ease up the throttle and so on. If you are going after fast lap, you can't do these. If in race your car bounces over kerb you have to let it settle, but in practice I just keep the throttle floored down and hope that I can keep it in control. If I spin, well, then there is always next lap. Giving the same scenario for Vettel, I think the case would be very similar. Of course Miguel's points are valid too, sometimes you just click with the track on the race.

P.S: Those little freezes You guys mentioned I get all time either on,or,offline in some specific spots in some specific tracks...I almost got used to them:ill:

Yes, I have these too, but the ones I had in Spa was still something new. Firstly, I had 4 in every lap in the same places + over the finish line every now and then (the same that can be seen in jjaisli's video). Secondly, I didn't have them after reboot and I never had those in any practice session. So it wasn't the same kind of what you get in certain tracks in certain points. I had them in Kemmel, Malmedy, before Les Fagnes and in Blanchimont. And then every now and then on the finish straight.

I really do hope, that the NA release would push Eutechnyx to sort some of these bugs too. I could start ranting once again how it's unbelievable that not a single racing game on PS3 has everything well, but I better not. Let's just hope that GT5 and/or new Eutechnyx game will finally deliver what we all want. But while waiting, I'll keep playing SCC :)
 
I really do hope, that the NA release would push Eutechnyx to sort some of these bugs too. I could start ranting once again how it's unbelievable that not a single racing game on PS3 has everything well, but I better not. Let's just hope that GT5 and/or new Eutechnyx game will finally deliver what we all want. But while waiting, I'll keep playing SCC :)

Me too.👍
Let's give Biggles new format league some support to keep this great group of fair racers playing together.👍:)
 
I'm trying to remember (and I'm too lazy to research old posts on the Eutechnyx board) but I believe the mini-freezes are caused by lag where the game tries to sync the cars on the track at the same place at key points. If that makes any sense. But of course it shouldn't happen like this and even a very small freeze like this is terribly distracting. It's bad enough when it happens on a straight. But at some tracks it happens on corners where you may be at he limit of grip and trying to apply a bit of opposite lock...and you're off. I remember this happened to me during a Mont Tremblant race (I think) with the 250 GTO and I lost a position, just two laps from the end. Oh, I was so angry. And again, during the P4 race at Riviera it was happening constantly and I hit 2 other cars because of it.
 
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