Searching For Evidence of Hidden Things

[karelpipa]

I think they just switched them for new models. It easy as that. Missing SSR11 is more interesting as to why they scrapped it. Possibly didnt have the time to remade it to GT2 ''palette''.
Also cars on dirt didnt make as much of ''smoke'' behind them in few shots and obviously it was all GT1 engine so far.

 

[Lee Der]

I think they just switched them for new models. It easy as that. Missing SSR11 is more interesting as to why they scrapped it. Possibly didnt have the time to remade it to GT2 ''palette''.

No, they used it for physics test.

 

[MMRivit]

All we can do right now about assets that just went missing between builds is speculate. The Mustang could be a licensing matter, or something completely different. Same for the CLK-GTR that people often bring up. Nobody outside of those working on the game in 1999 knows what got SSR11 axed either. There's no definitive answer for any of these questions.

Edit: lucky 3333rd message for me

 

[m2595]

I was just browsing the GT2 section at The Cutting Room Floor website and found this picture of an early version of the Special Events menu. I noticed something interesting - if you look at the "4 door luxury sedan" entry, you'll see the outline of a car, which (I'm 99% sure) is a W124 Mercedes, perhaps a 500E. The 500E was and is quite famous in Japan, there is even a special club devoted to this car and it is actually quite large, especially if you consider MB only built ca.10 500 of these (I think it has at least a hundred members or more).
So I wonder if they chose this unintentionally or were they going to add the 500E in the game, but ended up not doing so.

 

[karelpipa]

Isn't there a Ferrari at Grand Touring Champs?

Global Compact looks like Fiesta/121

 

[submaniac93]

GTC is a Venturi 300

 

[dzajkel]

Global Compact one kinda looks like a mashup of a few cars. Mk3/Mk4 Fiesta's back, Mk4 Golf's side, and something else's front - can't pinpoint that one specifically.

World Open Sports Car also looks interesting. Kinda Honda Beat vibes, but not exactly.

The W124 also looks to be one of the more plain versions, instead of the 500E.

 

[HWNathanJens]

Idk if this is useful in any way (it probably isn't) but in the intro it says "gran valley" instead of "grand valley"

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Most likely a typo

 

[Epic B]

Anyone else hear about this? Aside from this article apparently there exists basically zero surviving evidence that Pontiac was ever going to be in the game.

 

[submaniac93]

No evidence of Pontiac anywhere in the demos as far as i'm aware. So i don't know where that came from.

 

[rallymen007]

No evidence of Pontiac anywhere in the demos as far as i'm aware. So i don't know where that came from.

https://www.ign.com/articles/1999/12/10/gran-turismo-2-2

But the lack of evidence makes me think it's possibly PR guys talking about the cars they're looking to license to get in game and it didn't work out.

 

[pez2k]

That IGN article is full of nonsense like listing the CLK-GTR as confirmed content, and using the old 'Plam Strip' and 'Eiger Path' names, despite writing two days after the Japanese version of the game had been mastered for release with none of that in.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

The IGN article has taught me that nothing much has changed over the years when speculating about a new GT game. People back then were still saying a car was confirmed because reasons.

 

[karelpipa]

And rally courses like Roma Night or Test Drive or Roma Short

EDIT:
not exactly a hidden thing, but the whistle of this R32 sounds the same as GT2 turbo

 

[karelpipa]

Another VW Polo was to be in GT2. a mkII Polo G40 with supercharger. (image from PS magazine )

 

[submaniac93]

It has a name string in GT2's demos as well. No real trace of it otherwise sadly

 

[dzajkel]

I don't remember in which version of the game exactly, but one of the descriptions for the Polo 1.4 16v mentions the G40 quite extensively.

 

[karelpipa]

Never noticed that the original name for Rome Circuit has been a part of endurance event as a picture. ''Mirenium''

 

[Lee Der]

Hi guys! Is this a true that CLK GTR has a string name in demo disc?

 

[submaniac93]

Nope. Besides the few screencaps on various websites, the car has never had any data in any known builds of GT2.

 

[Lee Der]

Nope. Besides the few screencaps on various websites, the car has never had any data in any known builds of GT2.

Ahh, I would be happy if someone got the oldest GT2 build from those early screenshots)))

 

[submaniac93]

We don't have any proof this was ever in a build of the game. It sure looks like it, but they could very well be computer renders set in a similar way. One thing for sure, if this car ever was in any build we could theoretically have access to eventually, it would only have a chance to be on the E3 '99 build that's still eluding us.

 

[MMRivit]

Bump with an interesting discovery (at least for the three or four license test fans on this website). As it turns out, the "Test Drive" demo of GT2 has a functional license game mode, and there are early renditions of five B-License tests in the data. The courses exist in two earlier demos, but the game mode itself doesn't. Here's a run through all "10" tests (5 unique, 5 placeholder duplicates of B-7):