Searching For Evidence of Hidden Things

[submaniac93]

I think the deformation might come from the rough NTSC to PAL conversion. Just like in the old GT1 trailers from PS demo discs.

Ntsc/pal is only a framerate standard. There is no conversion of any kind. Especially on 3d models.
It looks like that early model lacks the detail on the front end, the indents in the bumper mainly.

 

[karelpipa]

I think that some game were squashed when poorly converted to PAL. See, here it is obvious that cars feel narrower

 

[submaniac93]

Pal had a higher vertical resolution, that's why. It doesn't influence how a 3d mesh is made besides stretching it vertically a little if the aspect ratio isn't properly handled.

 

[karelpipa]

I dont remember if i posted this already, but if you play NTSC version in PAL you get slower menu music to which i was used to hear it this way for over 10 years until i got the original copy! I think it sounds great though.

 

[tankuroded]

So we got a bigger look on the CLK-GTR from the Japanese The PlayStation magazine's memory card sticker set... somewhere else (Edge #68):

Merged, it looks like this:

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Hmm, it doesn't have the D2 decals on it like in other screenshots I've seen.

 

[submaniac93]

Seems like an unfinished version of the car we see on Tahiti.
The mirrors look oddly too detailed but it's a decent way to check the mesh, i'll have to save this one day.

 

[karelpipa]

It clearly is a version of the game with much higher resolution which i would love to see in motion and play. Even today.

 

[pez2k]

It'll be a render rather than the actual game running, like a lot of early promo pictures.

 

[GTvsForza]

This isn't really hidden, but something that I found interesting. I decided to load up GT2 again to finish up my career mode, since I only got the manufacturer races left. As I was scrolling through what I have left, I saw that the Mini Cooper race graphic is an actual photo and not in-game like the others. Not sure if there are other events that use real pictures, but that one surprised me.

 

[karelpipa]

There are more. (Saxo i believe and more)

 

[submaniac93]

106 event as well

 

[GTvsForza]

So, here's the list of manufacturer events with real pictures used in the race graphics:

• 106 Challenge
• Mini Challenge

Interesting that they don't have the in-game shots like the others.

 

[submaniac93]

I should note that all the other images are pc renders, not actual game screencaps, if that wast obvious. Which is why there are 7 Vipers on the event screen.

 

[GTvsForza]

Another Manufacturer Race oddity, the Daihatsu Mira race black background is a tiny bit offset. Don't know if it's my E-word or if it's actually like that.

 

[submaniac93]

Probably is that way, i don't remember off the top of my head, but i'll have a look whne i can

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

YES! More early Gran Turismo 2 footage! I don't care if everyone else has already seen this, I haven't and I'm happy to see it.

 

[karelpipa]

Thats a ton of footage. Hoe do you find these videos
Does anybody recognise the track at 2:57 with red background? Is it Red Rock or Indy or what?

 

[MMRivit]

It's Rome Short, as featured in prerelease builds of the game:

 

[dzajkel]

1:25 - proof of Mercedes-Benz having a Special dealership. That means at the time of making this trailer, the CLK Race Car was still not cut from the game.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Thats a ton of footage. Hoe do you find these videos
Does anybody recognise the track at 2:57 with red background? Is it Red Rock or Indy or what?

There's a guy I follow on twitter that retweeted that video. He also likes to mess around with Gran Turismo 2 a lot.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Yeah, I found the video while searching for Gran Turismo 2 obscure stuff a week ago. There are several interesting clips like a race button for the Vector and Ruf dealerships and the Lexus dealership in South City.

 

[tankuroded]

A while back, Overload_35 found that one of the license fragment tracks actually loops to the starting line behind the tire walls, but Overload deleted his videos. Which is it again? I suspect it is L_S-corner2 but I don't really remember without the video at hand.

EDIT: The video does say "L_Check" but I don't think it was a valid track name.

 

[karelpipa]

I probably downloaded these videos years ago. I'll try to check it in the evening if i dont forget

 

[MMRivit]

The matter has been solved already, the track is actually called "check" (filename "checker", only found in US v1.1, v1.2 and EU). Here's a lap where I break through the tire walls that bookend the intended test area:

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I always did wonder if the license routes in GT2 actually ever connected and made a bigger circuit. That's neat to know now.

If track editing is ever figured out, it might make for a fun custom track to be added.

 

[MMRivit]

This is just an isolated case, there's no evidence that the various license fragments are connected anyhow.

 

[tankuroded]

Not sure where to post this - while this code to make a drag race has been up for ages, only now someone (read: me) made a video about it, with some modifications:

 

[karelpipa]

Hopefully someday we will obtain this disc​

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

One of the things I really find odd from that build is that there's a 1998 Mustang featured in it. Yet the model is nowhere to be found in any of the GT2 demo discs we can play. The 1999 Mustangs are there, but not the 1998 ones.