Seasonal and Quick Match Wishlist Thread
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- Lancashire
- GTP_BanditKarter, BanditKarter22
Shifter karts at: Autumn Ring Mini, GT Arena, Kart Space, London, or Streets Of Willow 👍
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Kei cars!
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- VIC
- theroy1963
- symo63
Yep, even better if they put in the 2013 V8 Supercars....2000 V8 super car at bathurst, you can't tell I'm Australian
- 33
- United States
- TimBoss351
I want rally car, open wheel cars, stock cars, and The Pikes Peak Hill Climb!!!!!! I keep dreaming they will bring it back. I also would like some seasonals that pay good AND I can re-race for money over and over. I have to work hard enough to buy my cars in real life, I don't care to race slower stuff forever to get the good cars here.
- 10
- Netherlands
I would like the seasonals to be more difficult to reach gold. It would feel more rewarding. I have not saved a single repeat of a match sine I started this game. There is just nothing worthwhile, nothing that left me with a feeling of having to fight for a race and then be proud of the result after long refining and then save that result.
That's bad.
For comparison I struggled for days with the 430PP FF and 500PP FR challenges on GT5. Perhaps it is partially to blame that I was a new driver and fully learned or at least I hope so how to tweak a car only a few months back; but still at this very day I don't think I would break the grand valley in 430FF challenge when the Integra is leading. Back then and now it would probably end me up waiting for the Megane to cycle up to pole position and not be surpassed.
Entering this game, well its just too easy. The MiTo challenge can be done without even changing suspension and leave that default without any assists on.
I know that not having a assists on is a self chosen handicap; and for that reason it was OK for the seasonals to be hard on the bad driver such as myself.
I am totally cool with the 'main game' being easy. The large population wants easy games and indeed this should be shoved down their throats as long as they pay. But give the people that want to have a feeling of reward something too; even if its just the medal. Give out large cash and **** at bronze and gold just the medal if you have to.
For infos; never drove a MiTo before in game but reduced it to somewhere around 1050 KG, added power from I think a ECU tune to reach 396 PP (so still decent HP to spare, mind you) - normal suspension -and fully adjustable gearboxe tuned to what seemed to make sense just rough settings perhaps max speed to minimum or so, nothing perfected.
Immediately made it to 1:01 therefore passing the test with a cool 1.5s to spare in gold. Thats not cool this aint working for something! I was just driving, badly. And still making easy wins.
In short!!! cause this is way too long: MAKE STUFF MORE DIFFICULT!!! THANKS.
That's bad.
For comparison I struggled for days with the 430PP FF and 500PP FR challenges on GT5. Perhaps it is partially to blame that I was a new driver and fully learned or at least I hope so how to tweak a car only a few months back; but still at this very day I don't think I would break the grand valley in 430FF challenge when the Integra is leading. Back then and now it would probably end me up waiting for the Megane to cycle up to pole position and not be surpassed.
Entering this game, well its just too easy. The MiTo challenge can be done without even changing suspension and leave that default without any assists on.
I know that not having a assists on is a self chosen handicap; and for that reason it was OK for the seasonals to be hard on the bad driver such as myself.
I am totally cool with the 'main game' being easy. The large population wants easy games and indeed this should be shoved down their throats as long as they pay. But give the people that want to have a feeling of reward something too; even if its just the medal. Give out large cash and **** at bronze and gold just the medal if you have to.
For infos; never drove a MiTo before in game but reduced it to somewhere around 1050 KG, added power from I think a ECU tune to reach 396 PP (so still decent HP to spare, mind you) - normal suspension -and fully adjustable gearboxe tuned to what seemed to make sense just rough settings perhaps max speed to minimum or so, nothing perfected.
Immediately made it to 1:01 therefore passing the test with a cool 1.5s to spare in gold. Thats not cool this aint working for something! I was just driving, badly. And still making easy wins.
In short!!! cause this is way too long: MAKE STUFF MORE DIFFICULT!!! THANKS.
So you cranked the power up on the mito and reduced it's weight, and you don't consider that an aid? I'm doing laps under 1 minute without any additional power or weight reduction. Simply by tuning the suspension. If you want challenge, stop gaming the game by adding horsepower.
Also, running 1:17.4xx laps on superlap2 using a Megane, instead of gaming the R18 or HSV by using the power limiter for virtually unlimited torque. I consider that challenging. I don't consider stripping 290+ hp from an R18 even coming close to attempting to "challenge" myself. The game can only do so much and still be sale-able to the vast majority of consumers. In the end, you have to challenge yourself by avoiding the easy win.
Also, running 1:17.4xx laps on superlap2 using a Megane, instead of gaming the R18 or HSV by using the power limiter for virtually unlimited torque. I consider that challenging. I don't consider stripping 290+ hp from an R18 even coming close to attempting to "challenge" myself. The game can only do so much and still be sale-able to the vast majority of consumers. In the end, you have to challenge yourself by avoiding the easy win.
- 10
- Netherlands
Well, GT is a game that is in my opinion specifically interesting due to its tuning options. I am not carried away at all by driving stock cars around or even use online. The fun is in the tuning and getting the best out of the car.
Then if you're still too bad at driving (or at tuning for that matter) its totally cool to turn on some driving assistance! Or avoiding line ups that have too fast cars in the lead as was my resolve in the mentioned 430pp FF challenge of GT5. That for sure is 'gaming the game' as you mentioned.
Now however the challenges are so easy you don't even have to tune your car at all to win the event, not even change tyres. And that's a shame imo. Its good fun to think of how to spend PP and then keep tuning and tuning until you finally make that lap in time.
It is not just a racing game it is also a tuning game, and the need for tuning should be there.
Then if you're still too bad at driving (or at tuning for that matter) its totally cool to turn on some driving assistance! Or avoiding line ups that have too fast cars in the lead as was my resolve in the mentioned 430pp FF challenge of GT5. That for sure is 'gaming the game' as you mentioned.
Now however the challenges are so easy you don't even have to tune your car at all to win the event, not even change tyres. And that's a shame imo. Its good fun to think of how to spend PP and then keep tuning and tuning until you finally make that lap in time.
It is not just a racing game it is also a tuning game, and the need for tuning should be there.
Some events, true. Many events, not so. Dropping vehicle weight and boosting power are aids, even if you don't want to call them that. Personally, I'm not against using aids of any kind to enjoy the game, I figure people should do as they feel necessary to enjoy whatever they're doing (within the limits of law and respect for other players) but using them and then insisting its the fault of GranTurismo that you have no challenge is a bit overboard.
You said yourself that you used both weight reduction and power assists so your followup[ just isn't believable and looks to me a simple troll.
You said yourself that you used both weight reduction and power assists so your followup[ just isn't believable and looks to me a simple troll.
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- tigersharkdude
What do I wish for in seasonals? A challenge
The newest round of seasonals are a joke, golded all 3 on the first lap. What happened to those first GT5 Seasonals that were hard? Like it took you a while of Test&Tune to finally get a gold lap?
The newest round of seasonals are a joke, golded all 3 on the first lap. What happened to those first GT5 Seasonals that were hard? Like it took you a while of Test&Tune to finally get a gold lap?
There were few seasonals that offered me challenge in GT5 and they were almost all time trials. The races offered me little challenge and were a source of quick game cash. Some were enjoyable enough to do multiple times. Others not.
Gold is rarely the "challenge" in a time trial. The challenge comes from
a) not taking the easy way out (for instance, by power limiting an HSV or R18)
b) from the other drivers.
I've spent hours and hours tuning and improving my lines to achieve lap times far below those of many who took the easy way out, using a car that far underperforms in comparison to the two two contenders. In fact, I've apparently driven about a thousand miles doing so. I have no doubt that I'll never achieve the same lap times as those who jumped inot an R18 or HSV. But it doesn't matter. I pushed my choice to its limits.
Time trials are as challenging as you make them. Hop in a Megane and do a lap time of 1:18... No? Ok how about 1:19? No? OK, try for 1:20 then. No? Ok, how about achieving the same time required for a gold. No? Ok, gimp your R18 or HSV and do a lap at 1:12 and be happy someone's providing you with a cash flow beyond that of career mode. Since apparently the cash is the only challenge you can find.
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- tigersharkdude
I dont think this guy understands that I have been here for years. I am not a noob, I know how to play the game. The seasonals are just not challenging. The hardest thing that Ive come across in GT6 is a handful of Mission races and the 5-3 GoodWood TT in the X1 (DS3 user here).
I used to be all about trying to get the best time that I could possibly get, but with only having a DS3 I know that Im never going to touch those top rankings so I dont even try anymore.
I remember in the first or second GT5 seasonal events there was a race with a Focus ST and it was HARD, I dont think that I ever even golded it .. alot of people complained about how hard it was and PD started making the seasonals easier. I for one would rather have a very hard race that I am going to have to practice on a ton to gold, than to have a race that Im going to gold on the first attempt. If there were any incentive into continually running the seasonals with different cars I would do so, but there is not. So I see no point in continuing to run laps if I have nothing to gain. If they gave us racing suits or paint chips for hitting the trophy times AFTER hitting the first payout I would keep running, but they do not. So after I gold I quit, accept my earnings, save the game and then go and get on with my daily activities
Regarding how long you've been here... Frankly, I don't care if you've been here since the inception of the internet. That's meaningless with regards to the issue.
Time trials are a challenge of you make them a challenge, and they're simply a one-shot buck maker if you achieve the minimum gold time and call it quits. You can choose to view it as you like. It really matters little to me in the end. I'm running at 1:17.3xx in a Megane in superlap 2, far better than the mainstay of participants in the time trial and well below a large contingent of both R18 and HSV drivers. That for me is an achievement, not hitting the minimum required time for gold.
Will there be races in the future for seasonals that you can milk for the grind-game? Most likely. Were the first six time trials? yep. And likely for good reason, considering the new physics and the need for many returning players to learn what's different by having to drive multiple laps instead of the bare minimum. Did you choose to take advantage of the opportunity? Apparently not. You just attacked it like it was a career mode checkoff item. Your loss. Time trials are never about making bare minimum entry time (gold). They'e about pushing the lap time to new lows.
Time trials are a challenge of you make them a challenge, and they're simply a one-shot buck maker if you achieve the minimum gold time and call it quits. You can choose to view it as you like. It really matters little to me in the end. I'm running at 1:17.3xx in a Megane in superlap 2, far better than the mainstay of participants in the time trial and well below a large contingent of both R18 and HSV drivers. That for me is an achievement, not hitting the minimum required time for gold.
Will there be races in the future for seasonals that you can milk for the grind-game? Most likely. Were the first six time trials? yep. And likely for good reason, considering the new physics and the need for many returning players to learn what's different by having to drive multiple laps instead of the bare minimum. Did you choose to take advantage of the opportunity? Apparently not. You just attacked it like it was a career mode checkoff item. Your loss. Time trials are never about making bare minimum entry time (gold). They'e about pushing the lap time to new lows.
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- Netherlands
I heard there was some guy around jumping topics and informing people he does superlaps with the Megane running 1:17.3 ish rounds. Does anyone know where I can find this super person?
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- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
People are entitled to their opinions but many of them are just wrong
. Taking a car suitable for a race and torpedoing it by 100PP to turn it into a "challenge" isn't what racing is about. Racing is about equal or near equal cars competing with each other and skill winning out and GT does about as poor a job as you can do in this regard. The game should have a difficulty slider so that at 100% difficulty, the very best drivers should need the recommended car/pp/tires in order to win. But there is no difficulty slider, it's PD's one-size-fits-all philosophy chasing a rabbit and surmounting moving pylons along the way, with a car that's much slower in the straights, and much faster in the corners even 2 or 3 tire grades down.
The Seasonals are the same. Gold is pretty much meaningless because everyone can achieve it. It's like kids soccer or hockey tournaments where everyone that shows up gets a trophy. I remember my son throwing everyone of them into a box year after year, and only displaying the ones' he earned.
Want to fix the TT's for example, without nerfing the rewards but making "Gold" or "Silver" something with meaning? Easy.
1. Payout prizes just as you do now, no changes. If you could get full prizes before you will still get them.
2. However, gold, silver and bronze awards would be separated into Gold 1, Gold 2, Gold 3 etc. Do the same with Silver and Bronze. Then award the medals something like this:
Gold 1 - Top 200
Gold 2 - 201-500
Gold 3 - 501-1000
Silver 1 - 1000-2500
Silver 2 - 2501-5000
Silver 3 - 5001-10000
etc. ...
Now Gold/Silver/Bronze has some meaning because if you achieve Gold 2 for example, you know and everyone else will know, that only 500 people were in your league speedwise on that particular TT. So when you say, "I got gold" it really means something, whereas now it's meaningless. If you want to spruce it up, throw in some awards for consecutive finishes at any level. Get 4 Silver 3's in a row and you win this car. Get 4 Gold 3's in a row and win this car, paint and helmet. Etc.
. Taking a car suitable for a race and torpedoing it by 100PP to turn it into a "challenge" isn't what racing is about. Racing is about equal or near equal cars competing with each other and skill winning out and GT does about as poor a job as you can do in this regard. The game should have a difficulty slider so that at 100% difficulty, the very best drivers should need the recommended car/pp/tires in order to win. But there is no difficulty slider, it's PD's one-size-fits-all philosophy chasing a rabbit and surmounting moving pylons along the way, with a car that's much slower in the straights, and much faster in the corners even 2 or 3 tire grades down. The Seasonals are the same. Gold is pretty much meaningless because everyone can achieve it. It's like kids soccer or hockey tournaments where everyone that shows up gets a trophy. I remember my son throwing everyone of them into a box year after year, and only displaying the ones' he earned.
Want to fix the TT's for example, without nerfing the rewards but making "Gold" or "Silver" something with meaning? Easy.
1. Payout prizes just as you do now, no changes. If you could get full prizes before you will still get them.
2. However, gold, silver and bronze awards would be separated into Gold 1, Gold 2, Gold 3 etc. Do the same with Silver and Bronze. Then award the medals something like this:
Gold 1 - Top 200
Gold 2 - 201-500
Gold 3 - 501-1000
Silver 1 - 1000-2500
Silver 2 - 2501-5000
Silver 3 - 5001-10000
etc. ...
Now Gold/Silver/Bronze has some meaning because if you achieve Gold 2 for example, you know and everyone else will know, that only 500 people were in your league speedwise on that particular TT. So when you say, "I got gold" it really means something, whereas now it's meaningless. If you want to spruce it up, throw in some awards for consecutive finishes at any level. Get 4 Silver 3's in a row and you win this car. Get 4 Gold 3's in a row and win this car, paint and helmet. Etc.
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- Norwich
- pako_donna
We need th GT5 World Circuits Tour seaonal. 1 lap around the Ring 24h track, with GT cars AI, so we can enter with a fully modified normal car and do our very best to beat them for a well earned 500k
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- kolio123
The Overtake Challenges were just awesome in GT5! I understand that those are harder for PD to make than just a TT. I would be happy with one of those each month! I really am a hot lap kinda guy(not the best). But, this would mix it up perfectly for me!
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- chris78cpr
- chris78cpr
You have to remember that GT6 is still new and to keep casual gamers interested the seasonal events will be easier and more achievable. Give it a few months/year and once it becomes more of just the hardcore gamers who are still playing daily they will turn up the difficulty on the seasonals and new content. Popping out near impossible seasonals that a casual gamer has no chance of golding just pushes them away from the game to FIFA, call of duty, etc.
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- Quezon City
- MigsRZXA021
What about cars specifically that is one-make? I'm kinda disappointed for the lack of races unlike in GT2 where there are races specific for one manufacturer.
One example would be the LanEvo Meeting where ALL the Evos (including its Rally Cars and the ones made by HKS and Mine's) would race against each other and it wouldn't matter which course for it will be on random.
I remember this rule too from GT5's Seasonal Events:
If your car is below the PP Limit, you gain more Credits. Example, if you use a car with 450 in a 550 PP race, then you'd get double the amount. Stack that with the everyday login to PSN which is also up to twice the amount! That's what I do in GT5...
My only fav Seasonal Event there is the 4WD challenge and I pitted my LanEvo IV with the right amount of PP to get first place and win the Gold trophy and big amount of prize Credits!
One example would be the LanEvo Meeting where ALL the Evos (including its Rally Cars and the ones made by HKS and Mine's) would race against each other and it wouldn't matter which course for it will be on random.
I remember this rule too from GT5's Seasonal Events:
If your car is below the PP Limit, you gain more Credits. Example, if you use a car with 450 in a 550 PP race, then you'd get double the amount. Stack that with the everyday login to PSN which is also up to twice the amount! That's what I do in GT5...
My only fav Seasonal Event there is the 4WD challenge and I pitted my LanEvo IV with the right amount of PP to get first place and win the Gold trophy and big amount of prize Credits!
- 204
- Virginia
I have two wishes...
1). No Kart Races PLEASE!!!
2). Basically I'd be happy with any actual Seasonal Event instead just time trials (no offense to people who like them). Don't get me wrong, I really love GT6. However, even for an average racer like myself, there hasn't even been one race/event that has been difficult, let alone one that would be considered "expert level". I think the difficulty level of the GT5 Seasonals were a nice mix. Some were pretty easy and a couple were insanely hard (such as the Nurburgring race in the original Lamborghini Seasonal and/or the entire Mazda Miata Seasonal). But most of the GT5 Seasonals were just hard enough that I'd have research what was the best car/tune, and give each race a few tries before winning gold across the board.
Just FYI - A few days ago I loaded up GT5 and was pleasantly surprised to see that there have been 3 new Seasonal Events released since December 6th, the day that GT6 was released. So, if any of you are in the same position as me (finished with all of the GT6 content that has been released so far), you might want to go enjoy the 3 "new" Seasonals in GT5.
Thanks and hope everyone is well
1). No Kart Races PLEASE!!!
2). Basically I'd be happy with any actual Seasonal Event instead just time trials (no offense to people who like them). Don't get me wrong, I really love GT6. However, even for an average racer like myself, there hasn't even been one race/event that has been difficult, let alone one that would be considered "expert level". I think the difficulty level of the GT5 Seasonals were a nice mix. Some were pretty easy and a couple were insanely hard (such as the Nurburgring race in the original Lamborghini Seasonal and/or the entire Mazda Miata Seasonal). But most of the GT5 Seasonals were just hard enough that I'd have research what was the best car/tune, and give each race a few tries before winning gold across the board.
Just FYI - A few days ago I loaded up GT5 and was pleasantly surprised to see that there have been 3 new Seasonal Events released since December 6th, the day that GT6 was released. So, if any of you are in the same position as me (finished with all of the GT6 content that has been released so far), you might want to go enjoy the 3 "new" Seasonals in GT5.
Thanks and hope everyone is well
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- Amish country, USA
- seeker589
I would like to see a seasonal race you need to QUALIFY for.
After you record two to three clean laps - Your AI competition runs similar lap times during the race - you then have to drive better than the AI to get a win. String three to five events together - A REAL championship. With REAL Credits - like 5 million credits REAL!
Oh - and I want to use Sport or Race tires on street cars and Race tires on Race cars.
I don't know ONE racer that ever goes to a track with comfort tires - They chunk and don't last anywhere near as long as DOT race rubber or slicks.
On a similar note but off topic:
Why can't we adjust tire pressure? It is just as important as shock valving, spring rates, and all the other suspension adjustments and mounting points.
After you record two to three clean laps - Your AI competition runs similar lap times during the race - you then have to drive better than the AI to get a win. String three to five events together - A REAL championship. With REAL Credits - like 5 million credits REAL!
Oh - and I want to use Sport or Race tires on street cars and Race tires on Race cars.
I don't know ONE racer that ever goes to a track with comfort tires - They chunk and don't last anywhere near as long as DOT race rubber or slicks.
On a similar note but off topic:
Why can't we adjust tire pressure? It is just as important as shock valving, spring rates, and all the other suspension adjustments and mounting points.
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