Should I buy the Viper Team Oreca?

[Famine]

i could give a toss about fuel economy or tyre wear as we all know how inaccurate gt4 is

But... the thread is about GT4 and in the GT4 forum.

Laptimes: Viper > Vette
Fuel Consumption: Viper > Vette
Tyre Wear: Viper > Vette

not that id buy a car like that for fuel economy mind you...jesus

Not even for endurance races?

 

[fulcrumdriver]

Heck, get both if you can. I never picked a favorite between the two, each has its own appeal and style. The Viper is a little looser around the turns and it's fun to drive, but the corvette's handling is sublime and you would be surprised how darn fast it is. And while the viper just looks mean, it's hard to ignore that famous yellow scheme you see every year at Le Mans. I thoroughly tested both at Seattle with tuning adjustments (but kept them stock for power), and they had very close lap times. I think I managed to get the viper to go a little faster (IIRC; It's been a year since I did this). They were bested only by the two Ford GT LM cars and the Panoz LM in that test series.

 

[AMG.]

I thought the M was for "Meisterschaft", not "Masters".

Meisterschaft is German for Championship.

That makes the full translation German Touring Car Championship.

Actually you're both right assuming that the Wiki is correct:

Die Abkürzung DTM kann stehen für:

• zwei Rennsportserien, seit 2000 das Deutsche Tourenwagen-Masters oder von 1984 bis 1996 die Deutsche Tourenwagen-Meisterschaft

From 2000 onwards it's become masters.

AMG.

 

[Tom_IW_Racer]

Ah yep I must of forgot to point out it changed name. 👍

 

[Tornado]

Excuse my noobliness but uh...what's a DTM machine?

DTM Machine:

I'd recommend this one if you are going to buy one and you have the Japanese game.
If you have the American version, however, I recommend this one:

 

[Stevisiov]

A good car for the money is the Tickford falcon V8 supercar, while being quite heavy at 1350kg it has a good 600bhp and more importantly costs less than half the price of the Viper.

 

[throttlehappy]

But... the thread is about GT4 and in the GT4 forum.

Laptimes: Viper > Vette
Fuel Consumption: Viper > Vette
Tyre Wear: Viper > Vette



Not even for endurance races?

yeah, and...?
its still inaccurate

laptimes - for you
the other two i dont care about and i could care less about the endurance races. most of them are a waste of time

 

[Famine]

yeah, and...?
its still inaccurate

But in a discussion about the cars in it, any perceived inaccuracy is irrelevant.

laptimes - for you
the other two i dont care about and i could care less about the endurance races. most of them are a waste of time

That'll be "couldn't care less", and of course they are. It's a car racing game on a console. The whole thing is a waste of time. That's the whole point of it.

But this thread isn't about you. This thread is about the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R in GT4. Meemat was enquiring about it and we're presenting all of the information about it, and in comparison to the Corvette C5-R it's faster, uses less fuel and is kinder on tyres. Whether or not any of this is relevant to you just doesn't matter.

 

[throttlehappy]

But in a discussion about the cars in it, any perceived inaccuracy is irrelevant.



That'll be "couldn't care less", and of course they are. It's a car racing game on a console. The whole thing is a waste of time. That's the whole point of it.

But this thread isn't about you. This thread is about the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R in GT4. Meemat was enquiring about it and we're presenting all of the information about it, and in comparison to the Corvette C5-R it's faster, uses less fuel and is kinder on tyres. Whether or not any of this is relevant to you just doesn't matter.

i know what this threads about. is it so unbeleivable to think there are people out there who have a differance of opinion. i prefer the c5r
end of discussion

 

[Famine]

i know what this threads about.

So why bring real world considerations (or GT4's perceived lack of ability in interpreting them) into it? They're irrelevant.

is it so unbeleivable to think there are people out there who have a differance of opinion. i prefer the c5r

Not at all - and that's all you had to say. Saying that you think tyre wear and fuel economy are irrelevant because GT4 is inaccurate is useless information. In fact, it isn't even information - it's just useless. Someone choosing between the cars for, say, an endurance race might quite like to know that the Oreca gets better fuel economy and tyre wear than the C5-R, while not giving up anything in laptimes and not that throttlehappy "could could give a toss about fuel economy or tyre wear" sic.


Personally I quite like them both.

 

[throttlehappy]

So why bring real world considerations (or GT4's perceived lack of ability in interpreting them) into it? They're irrelevant.



Not at all - and that's all you had to say. Saying that you think tyre wear and fuel economy are irrelevant because GT4 is inaccurate is useless information. In fact, it isn't even information - it's just useless. Someone choosing between the cars for, say, an endurance race might quite like to know that the Oreca gets better fuel economy and tyre wear than the C5-R, while not giving up anything in laptimes and not that throttlehappy "could could give a toss about fuel economy or tyre wear" sic.


Personally I quite like them both.

your a funny man, what do you do in your spare time?
your right i "could could" give a toss, you going on about it is useless
just except that the fact i prefer the chevy...fully sic

 

[Famine]

your a funny man, what do you do in your spare time?

Gran Turismo...

 

[N1ckY]

Really, buy yourself a panoz esperante, i'm lovin' it

 

[Ignignoc N Err]

^Why suggest a car that's 3.5million more than the one in question? Whereas the Esperante is an EXTREMELY powerful car, with buckets of torque, it doesn't really classify with the GT2 Oreca Viper.

 

[Mr.ThunderMakeR]

Is there any real use for the Viper GTS-R (or the Vette C5R or even all the fantasy LM cars for that matter).

I just dont remember there being many races that they were competive in. They were either too powerful to race against the touring cars or too weak to go against the LMP cars and there werent really any race series targeted towards this class.

 

[Ignignoc N Err]

^Except for the American championship, you're correct. That is an unfortunate drawback about the GT series, IMHO. The GT1's and the American GT's haven't gotten enough spotlight. Hopefully the next installment of GT will have more class-specific races, and a broader selection of those classes.

 

[Duke]

Is there any real use for the Viper GTS-R (or the Vette C5R or even all the fantasy LM cars for that matter).

I just dont remember there being many races that they were competive in. They were either too powerful to race against the touring cars or too weak to go against the LMP cars and there werent really any race series targeted towards this class.

Considering the extra boost the Japanese JGTC cars get, the Oreca can be used in the JGTC series without feeling too guilty about it.

There are a number of really interesting race cars that don't have a home, unfortunately. There should be more of the JGTC 300-class cars, and a series for them; and there should be a series for the pocket race-prepped cars like the MMR racer, Lupo racer, Fit racer, etc.

 

[Smallhorses]

.....and there should be a series for the pocket race-prepped cars like the MMR racer, Lupo racer, Fit racer, etc.

Amen to that!

There's a whole batch of cars here with no "home" that could've made for an exciting race series, FF race cars!

Gathers Drider Civic, Motul Civic, Nissan MM-R, Lupo and Lupo GTi and Honda Fit Racer would've made a great grid for a challenge here. Instead we're left with 4 out of these 6 cars that are "homeless", not really fitting in well anywhere in the game. Not powerful enough to compete with Touring Cars or in the Endurance races, and yet way too well appointed to compete fairly in Clubman Cup or FF Challenge. Only the Lupos have their own individual series.

What is the reason for these cars if there's no competetive series for them? Eh, PD?

P.S. Sorry for the off-topic!

 

[Dark Elite]

To keep people like you happy, Smallhorses, but without too much effort.

In honesty, I'm with you - I love small, light, low-powered FF racers - but I couldn't resist.

DE

 

[lazyslacker700]

i wouldn't buy the car if u want it to win a race or something. i would buy it however if u just want to collect. i plan on doing so after i beat the game. i got almost all my 119 cars by winning (i'm not saying thats a lot).

 

[GT40 MKII]

to be quite honest i have 2 team orecas 1 as a setup car and the other as my racer, if that says how much i use it.

 

[DLRgian]

I have a Team Oreca Viper with over 6000km on it, I drive that car like crazy it has something like 617hp. I use no aids with it so she corners extremely well. If you are a good driver, great things can come out of this car.

 

[lazyslacker700]

its a cool car...but its pointless to buy such a car when you can get a much better car. besides theres no point in getting that car unless your collecting because you dont need it for any race. i made my way through the game mostly on cars i won. and i dont have a viper team oreca.

and all this i hear about fuel economy...so far for me fuel has never been a trouble. my tires always burn out before i run out of fuel. seriously though you dont have to worry about fuel. however tires are important.

but if you want it just for the hell of it, by all means just buy it.

 

[Dark Elite]

and all this i hear about fuel economy...so far for me fuel has never been a trouble. my tires always burn out before i run out of fuel. seriously though you dont have to worry about fuel.

That's one of GT4's greatest failures. However, it does not mean that fuel consumption becomes irrelevant - you will need to pit for tyres more often than for fuel, but would you really like to have to sit and wait while your car's excessive thirst is quenched, as well as the tyre changes?

The ESES taught me that fuel economy is an important factor in endurance racing in GT4. It's less than it should be, but it is still a factor.

DE

 

[lazyslacker700]

i guess so...but does refueling really take that long? because my fuel gets refueled before my tires are done. but if i skipped it would it make it faster? i wouldnt think so because ive of course skipped the fuel before and it took just as long because of the tires

 

[Dark Elite]

But when your fuel is lower than can be replenished in the time it takes to replace the tyres, it does take longer. In some cars on hard tyre compounds, this can happen every lap, and it does add time.

DE

 

[T4 GTR]

Its not as good as the Viper GTS-R Concept car, far too much power for that chassis, Handles like a greasy weasel.👎