Should PD place some emphasis on classic cars?

[A2K78]

When I say classic cars, I'm talking about pre-WWII models/manufacturers.

 

[Lain]

I think so. 👍

 

[Kryz11]

It wold be cool, what as the oldest car before other then 1st 2 cars ever? The AUDI?

 

[Dragonistic]

I don't think so, on a game we won't get the mechanical feeling of these old vehicles, so there shouldn't be much focus on them as the driving experience simply won't be that amazing when you don't have the feeling of the old fashioned materials and controls in your hands (and feet). Have a few sure, but there's no need for alot of them.

 

[chepe371]

More classics, wire spoke rims,thin tires, loud engines and quirky handling. love them all.
More championships with different era\country\power classic cars.
hope they throw in that Art Morrison 55 Bel Air.



Oops. just read Pre WW2. thats not classic era, thats like paleolithic, first ice age, jurassic. ahahahaha

 

[jedaye]

It would be nice, but its not worth the addtional time & effort.

 

[yossigab]

No, No No.
It needs a lot of investment from PD (time, development, tuning etc.) and the driving on those cars is mostly boring since they drive very slow, acceleration is almost zero and the handling is poor.
Imagine yourself driving the Nurburgring with one of those cars - it will take you about 1 hour for one lap...and I guess the gear changing will be very little since the speed is low.

I prefer having more modern & fast cars to have tight racing with other opponents.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I'd love to see some pre-war cars, but I don't think an emphasis needs to be put on them. Each car from whatever era should get the same amount of attention within the game. 👍

 

[Aloha62_2]

No, No No.
It needs a lot of investment from PD (time, development, tuning etc.) and the driving on those cars is mostly boring since they drive very slow, acceleration is almost zero and the handling is poor.
Imagine yourself driving the Nurburgring with one of those cars - it will take you about 1 hour for one lap...and I guess the gear changing will be very little since the speed is low.

I prefer having more modern & fast cars to have tight racing with other opponents.

most classics arent that slow.

 

[Lain]

I'd love to see some pre-war cars, but I don't think an emphasis needs to be put on them. Each car from whatever era should get the same amount of attention within the game. 👍

Indeed. 👍

GT should be a car encyclopedia of cars both new and old.

 

[niky]

I can think of quite a few cars pre-1960 I'd like to drive... even in virtual reality...

The Stutz Bearcat comes to mind...

as do the old Indy cars...

I'm all for it...

 

[RedBaron]

Complete set of silver arrow cars would be fantastic. V16 monsters doing over 250 km/h on those thin tyres.

 

[Scaff]

No, No No.
It needs a lot of investment from PD (time, development, tuning etc.) and the driving on those cars is mostly boring since they drive very slow, acceleration is almost zero and the handling is poor.
Imagine yourself driving the Nurburgring with one of those cars - it will take you about 1 hour for one lap...and I guess the gear changing will be very little since the speed is low.

I prefer having more modern & fast cars to have tight racing with other opponents.

May I introduce you to the Napier Railton....

.....500bhp from a 24 litre engine (not a typo) and a top speed of 160+ MPH. It has held 47 land speed records since it was built in 1933, and still runs twice a year (its now located at the Brooklands museum).

Kind of disproves the all being slow bit (by the way I could do this all day, the number of stupidly fast cars from that era is quite surprisingly large), and woulld certainly be a challenge to drive quickly given that the Railton only had rear brakes.


Regards

Scaff

 

[Jay]

I am all for it, as well as a few post (barely) WWII cars from the late 40's, early 50's that weren't outright sports cars. Oh and in stanard form too, not some hotrod or done up 55-57 chev.

It wold be cool, what as the oldest car before other then 1st 2 cars ever? The AUDI?

Ford Model T.

I'd love to see some pre-war cars, but I don't think an emphasis needs to be put on them. Each car from whatever era should get the same amount of attention within the game. 👍

Exactly.

 

[Seismica]

I think we should have classic cars like that, but only if they have historical or racing significance.

For example:

This car won le mans 4 years in a row from 1927 to 1930.

 

[daus26]

I don't know how many are going to be in the game, but PD are already showing a bit of emphasis on some of these classic models, aren't they? GT4 had some classics, and GT5P's museum thing showed us some classics as well. At the least, PD is more aware of it much more than the "now" that is Turn 10 lmao.

 

[senamic]

I honestly believe that PD should place some more of the classical automobiles in the Gran Turismo Series. Some have been mentioned above that are more than worthy of inclusion. At the end of the day, GT is supposed to be a simulator, and as KY once stated that he intended for GT to be a way of immortalising classics, what better to immortalise than, well, the classics!

 

[Rusty*]

...Oops. just read Pre WW2. thats not classic era, thats like paleolithic, first ice age, jurassic. ahahahaha

LMAO!!👍
Some of those car's do deserve recognition though, they started it all. Without them, there would be alot less Car manufacturere's today and some of the greatest races in the world started with them. So as nasty as they may look to some, they still deserve credit.
Love your timescale for them though lol, some of the maker's of those Car's are still alive lol!
Rusty*

 

[-ultraflow-]

GT is similar to a car encyclopedia, and Yes this fantastics machines deserve to be in GT5:

 

[Heath_1]

I think we mean vintage or antique rather than Classic cars.

But anyway.. yes, that would be good to see more so long as they're decently powerful.
that's my opinion. Take for example those 1hp Daimler Motor Caridge things in GT4, boring and slow.


Edit: Just read about that 24 litre thing.

Heres some off topic but interesting information. See thats not a car engine, never was. It's actually an aircraft engine. Because what they used to do back in those days is take the engines out of planes, remove the propeller and propeller shaft (obviously) and you know.. modify it to fit in the car (put a gear box etc etc...) then send it accross salt flats to try to break to land speed record. So thats the reason why its got 24 litres and 500 hp.

 

[Scaff]

Ford Model T.

Not even close, the Model T was launched in 1908, as an example Renault alone had already produced this lot before that year.

• Taxi de la Marne (Type AG/Type AG-1) (1905-1910)
• Type AH/Type AM (10CV) (1905-1909)
• Type AI/Type CF/Type DQ/Type ET (35CV) (1906-1914)
• Grand Prix (1906-1908)
• Type L/Type M (1903)
• Type N(a)/Type N(b)/Type S (1903)
• Type N(c)/Type Q/Type U(a)/Type U(e) (1903-1904)
• Type R/Type T (1903-1904)
• Type U(b)/Type U(c)/Type U(d) (1904)
• Type V/Type AS (1905-1913)
• Type X/Type X-1 (1905-1908)
• Type Y (1905-1906)
• Voiturette (Type A/Type B/Type C/Type D/Type E/Type G/Type H/Type J) (1898-1903)

Hell the Model T wasn't even Ford's first car, that was the Model A (1903).


However you are right to question the use of Audi, as they never existed until 1909 (however Horch Cars, a company set-up by the same man that founded Audi, did produce a car in 1901, even that's three years after Renault).

However its generally accepted that the first production cars went in this order

1. Benz Patent Motorwagen - 1886
2. Daimler Motor Carriage - 1886
3. Daimler Stahlradwgen - 1889
4. Panhard - 1891
5. Peugeot Vis-a-Vis - 1892

Regards

Scaff

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Not even close, the Model T was launched in 1908, as an example Renault alone had already produced this lot before that year.

I'm fairly sure NoxNoctis Umbra and Jay were both referring to the 3rd oldest car in GT4, not real life.

 

[Jay]

Not even close, the Model T was launched in 1908, as an example Renault alone had already produced this lot before that year.

• Taxi de la Marne (Type AG/Type AG-1) (1905-1910)
• Type AH/Type AM (10CV) (1905-1909)
• Type AI/Type CF/Type DQ/Type ET (35CV) (1906-1914)
• Grand Prix (1906-1908)
• Type L/Type M (1903)
• Type N(a)/Type N(b)/Type S (1903)
• Type N(c)/Type Q/Type U(a)/Type U(e) (1903-1904)
• Type R/Type T (1903-1904)
• Type U(b)/Type U(c)/Type U(d) (1904)
• Type V/Type AS (1905-1913)
• Type X/Type X-1 (1905-1908)
• Type Y (1905-1906)
• Voiturette (Type A/Type B/Type C/Type D/Type E/Type G/Type H/Type J) (1898-1903)

Hell the Model T wasn't even Ford's first car, that was the Model A (1903).


However you are right to question the use of Audi, as they never existed until 1909 (however Horch Cars, a company set-up by the same man that founded Audi, did produce a car in 1901, even that's three years after Renault).


Regards

Scaff

I am well aware of this but I thought NoxNoctis Umbra was talking about cars in GT so far, not cars in existance.

 

[Scaff]

I'm fairly sure NoxNoctis Umbra and Jay were both referring to the 3rd oldest car in GT4, not real life.

I am well aware of this but I thought NoxNoctis Umbra was talking about cars in GT so far, not cars in existance.

My bad, but it did allow me to trawl my old brain for some vaguely interesting history stuff.



Scaff

 

[TokyoDrift]

Not too bothered to be honest - maybe if they were reasonably fast and exciting to drive, offering something different.

 

[RedBaron]

I hate weak cars in GT too, but think about roster of supersports and racers of that era, old Bugattis, Bentleys, Alfas, Auto Unions, Mercs... This would be completely another story.

 

[niky]

Edit: Just read about that 24 litre thing.

Heres some off topic but interesting information. See thats not a car engine, never was. It's actually an aircraft engine. Because what they used to do back in those days is take the engines out of planes, remove the propeller and propeller shaft (obviously) and you know.. modify it to fit in the car (put a gear box etc etc...) then send it accross salt flats to try to break to land speed record. So thats the reason why its got 24 litres and 500 hp.

Even more interesting... vice versa... since post WWI restrictions prevented Germany from developing aircraft engines, they used automotive programs to develop engines that were eventually used in aircraft in WWII.

 

[Sniffs]

"antique" and other ratings also depend on your generation. however, how many people are you gonna find that would be willing to put their multi-million dollar investment pre-war through the kind of slinging and so forth that PD has to get them trough for a proper feel?

imagine putting a Cadillac Madame X imperial through it's paces when it's worth a couple houses in the rich part of Los Angeles? i think even Jay Leno complains he can't find basic things like repro spark plugs and other resto parts.

*sigh* i would surely love to run some of the pre-war British hot rods, but they've pretty much become trailer queens due to sheer age.

 

[Tnerb]

I honestly have little interest in the vast majority of cars circa pre-1960, with a few exceptions.

 

[Heath_1]

Okay just for a laugh.. id love to see one of those 1930's Cadillacs with the big V16 engine in GT5. Take it around Nurburgring Nordshleife.

Al Capone style