Should the Veyron be premium? (poll)

[Mr. Premium]

You're 12, aren't you? If you were older, you'd understand that "more" is not the same as "better".

You're 85, aren't you? If you were younger, you'd have enough of a fertile imagination to enjoy such a car.

Name one way the Veyron influenced any other car.

It wasn't built to influence other cars, it was built to inspire people. You've failed to comprehend that.

The flaws shouldn't have ever been there in the first place, and adding things that counteract the flaws only adds complexity, and unnecessary complexity is bad engineering. You design the thing from the ground up to do what it is supposed to do, you don't design something first and then add things to it that allow it to do what it is supposed to do.

And the 911 is almost as guilty of the same kind of stupidity as the Veyron.

...then you're a fool. It's as simple as that.

The Veyron's design does have many inherent advantages as well, just like the Porsche. They've both proven to be extremely effective despite their supposed flaws. The point being, to put it another way (lol), is there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Besides, it's more about the driving experience! The Veyron basically gives the driver superpowers. Imagine being able to overtake anything, anywhere, at anytime. Imagine having sure grip in just about any condition. Imagine being all warm and cozy inside. Imagine just lightly squeezing the throttle only to receive enough acceleration to make you dizzy. Imagine being able to outrun the police on the highway, fast enough even to evade a helicopter. Hell, imagine being able to outrun nearly any other land vehicle. The Veyron does have competition, but extremely little. And none of the competition offers the same kind of usability the Veyron has.

Hate all you like man.

 

[Borna12345]

No. It's heavy, and it's ugly.

 

[Anes]

No. It's heavy,

ok ok ok ok

It's ugly

That's subjective and it looks completely different in the metal than in a magazine. I think it's a beautiful car.

 

[Borna12345]

Well, it does look like a stomped bug.

 

[analog]

...then you're a fool. It's as simple as that.

Hate all you like man.

Why is someone who arrives at a different conclusion than you do and explaining it much more thoroughly and knowledgeable than you do a fool and a hater?
I don't agree with his conclusion either (but then again I wish all cars were Premium) although I can clearly see why he arrived at it as I mostly share his analysis about the Veyron.
Most car journalists aren't universally praising it either and if you'd read a lot of reviews in the better car magazines you'll find much more evidence on the contrary and actually supporting the viewpoint of Balocco.
Does this mean the Veyron is rubbish? To some yes, to others not, it's a question of personal preference and it's indeed possible to hate the Veyron as it's possible to hate any car if you don't like it.
Does that make them a hater or a fool? No it makes that they might hate that particular car but in Balocco's case he explained very comprehensively why he hated it and shown much more knowledge about the Veyron in doing so than you are doing defending it.

 

[Heka Gigantes]

I can't really understand why the Veyron isn't a premium car :/

I'm hoping though that the Veyron SS will be available as a premium car in a DLC very soon

 

[Dan Hill]

I can't really understand why the Veyron isn't a premium car :/

I'm hoping though that the Veyron SS will be available as a premium car in a DLC very soon

So do I. But I have this feeling we won't. Maybe GT6. However a DLC Super Sport could appear in NFS Hot Pursuit.

 

[iLex]

There is something fundamentally wrong about this car in my opinion.
The whole car feels like it's been build to be bragged about, not to be driven.

Sure, it's insanely impressive when it drives at maximum speed on the controlled test track or when it is taken for a spin around the top gear track. But then, when it gets back to its trailer for a cappucino and a massage, the real cars are out there battling it out on the real tracks... not just one lap, but whole races.

Maybe I see this the wrong way though. Maybe the car shouldn't be compared to ferraris, but to bentleys. It is a fast luxury car, not a luxurious fast car.

I voted standard, not because I hate the car, but because I don't feel any need for this car to be made premium over any of the other standard cars.

 

[WolfRacer543]

There is something fundamentally wrong about this car in my opinion.
The whole car feels like it's been build to be bragged about, not to be driven.

Sure, it's insanely impressive when it drives at maximum speed on the controlled test track or when it is taken for a spin around the top gear track. But then, when it gets back to its trailer for a cappucino and a massage, the real cars are out there battling it out on the real tracks... not just one lap, but whole races.

Maybe I see this the wrong way though. Maybe the car shouldn't be compared to ferraris, but to bentleys. It is a fast luxury car, not a luxurious fast car.

I voted standard, not because I hate the car, but because I don't feel any need for this car to be made premium over any of the other standard cars.

I would love to see how the Veyron would last in a 24 hour race. Remembering many cars wouldn't survive a 24 hour race so it wouldn't be any surprise if the Veyron couldn't either. I think those who love the Veyron can't see why those of us who dont like (or are indifferent toward it) feel the way we do. I dont really hate the car, I just hate the way people who love it defend it so much. On the race team I worked with, we had a "cool wall" and there was one dude who kept putting the Veyron as cool and everyone else would move it down until someone permanantly bolted it to the steel bar on the uncool side

 

[Mr. Premium]

Why is someone who arrives at a different conclusion than you do and explaining it much more thoroughly and knowledgeable than you do a fool and a hater?
I don't agree with his conclusion either (but then again I wish all cars were Premium) although I can clearly see why he arrived at it as I mostly share his analysis about the Veyron.
Most car journalists aren't universally praising it either and if you'd read a lot of reviews in the better car magazines you'll find much more evidence on the contrary and actually supporting the viewpoint of Balocco.
Does this mean the Veyron is rubbish? To some yes, to others not, it's a question of personal preference and it's indeed possible to hate the Veyron as it's possible to hate any car if you don't like it.
Does that make them a hater or a fool? No it makes that they might hate that particular car but in Balocco's case he explained very comprehensively why he hated it and shown much more knowledge about the Veyron in doing so than you are doing defending it.

Noooo he didn't. Maybe you didn't read either of our posts closely enough to discover his point has less to do with the Veyron itself and more to do with his preconcieved notions of how a car "must" be built. My point is his rigid notion of engineering is incorrect.

Most of the point of the Veyron is high speed. Pure and simple, high speed. What many seem to forget is you want a bit of weight at higher speeds to increase stability. You want to keep the shape as slippery as possible to achieve those speeds, but you don't want too much downforce to kill off that top speed. You want lots of displacement and big power to pull it towards those speeds and keep it there. Balocco's post basically states these are all inherent "flaws" in the Veyron's design, which is 100% false because the Veyron does exactly what it was meant to do, perfectly. And, if you want an explaination for the "W" design, come on. If it was a V it would be twice as long! How else can you make an 8L 16 cylinder so compact?

To be honest, the Veyron isn't my all time favorite car. I know it isn't necessarily an ideal all-rounder, but I only defend it because so many people hate it, despite not apparently understanding the point of it. It's not meant to appeal to practical needs, it's meant to make you giddy like a child, just like every other supercar. It's not supposed to have a "point".

Sorry for bumping an old thread.

 

[FlareKR]

Yes! YES! and YES!!!
This car, a modern marvel of human persistence and technological wonder, doesn't get premium status when it by sevenfold has the best interior in the game. Look at it! That's all leather, not some crappy Toyo-plastic, or fake Chevy wood. How many cars have magnesium knobs. And that 1001-HP gauge!

But you know some cars deserve better. This one is made of pure gorgeous plastic, going to 0-60 in a neck splitting 9.5 seconds and a bull charging engine ripping out a bean-ripping 86 HP.

Oh wait it doesn't stop there. This one is a pure automotive milestone. 0-60 in cheetah speed 10.5 seconds . It turns faster than crap can melt in the Sahara, and has the shape that makes you wet your pants.

And the big one. Conquering the road with world splitting 25 hp, a ride so out of this world and exciting it makes weed useless (although the seats still smell of it, and I think there's a couple blunts in the glove compartment if there is one.) 0-60 in body gorging 45 SECONDS. The aerodynamic prowess of an cabinet, and turns faster than heads looking at a sprinting porn star. Drum roll for the...

Let's keep praying PD puts in the Veyron SS in DLC to redeem itself and shut us up.

 

[MidianGTX]

To be honest, if I had the choice... I'd burn the Prius and let the Veyron have it's place in the premium range.

 

[Rdp616]

Let's keep praying PD puts in the Veyron SS in DLC to redeem itself and shut us up.

That's what i was thinking, maybe they are just tesing us by giving us the normal Veyron as a Standard, then give us the Super Sports as a Premium thru DLC. I'd totally forgive them.

 

[FlareKR]

That's what i was thinking, maybe they are just tesing us by giving us the normal Veyron as a Standard, then give us the Super Sports as a Premium thru DLC. I'd totally forgive them.

Me too, let's just keep hoping!

 

[supersquirrel]

yes i do too XD

 

[xSNAKEx]

I want that too. The SS premium. I never even wanted the regular Veyron. The only reason they put it in there is becasue they already modelled it for psp gt.

 

[GT Motion]

Definitely, it is one of the most expensive cars in the world and was revolutionary.

 

[stig's helmet]

Guys take a look at my gallery, therre are lots of veyron shots, some pretty good I think. Click the sig

 

[Akwaaba]

Yes, but no more so than any other 'interesting' car. and yes - because they should all be!

 

[Bigbazz]

Anyone who voted no to this is just an anti-fanboy.

I don't even like the Veyron, but its one of the greatest cars developed in a long time, it is one of the most popular and well known cars in the world and the fact that it is a standard is ridiculous. Especially considering some of the also ridiculous cars that were made premium. Obviously the Veyron should be a premium, more so than almost any other car.

 

[Xenn]

Odd?

Still looks standard there.

 

[Winstonlights]

There is no poll here.
But yeah, it's an engineering feat and should be premium, even though I don't like it.

There would be a crapload of cars I'd rather see as premiums than the Veyron, though.

^^I agree, even though the Veyron ought to be a premium from the start, still it isn't in the top of my list.

 

[chippy1000]

The Veyron should be premium it's a no brainer really.

 

[Crimson]

Every car should be premium.

 

[brennonyo]

Most definately its one of the most beautiful and wanted supercars out there

 

[INSANENEIVIESIS]

all they really have to do is model the cockpit the rest of the car in my opinion is flawless

 

[CAG_Theory]

Hello Senor,
What's the point of making a premium car for just one element—top speed. But then again, it is the greatest piece of engineering will ever be. No, I'm sorry, this is the greatest car ever made on the planet earth.

 

[Crumpet]

No, seeing people online with it is seriously annoying, especially when half of them can't drive it...

 

[jcide]

Every car should be premium.

👍👍

 

[ZEROX]

This one should be, it's one of the legendary modern car....by my account.👍