Should wheels, controllers and different setting affect ranking ?

[lGNAl]

Why is there TC on the qualifying event ? shouldn't be there at all ... I think the more realistically you drive on GT Academy the higher your rank should be ... I know it's measured by time but there has to be another way (detracting - I mean adding time?) ... for instance I drive a g27 wheel with the simulation option, power-assisted steering off and feedback strength 1, so its more realistic ... So the less help you get (driving line included) the higher your rank should be ... its just not fair

 

[Wardez]

Well, but, TC and all aids except ABS (and arguably, active steering) will make you slower.

Just check out the top times, they'll all be without any aids but ABS @ 1.

Trust me, all the top times will be with simulation steering, and all the usual aids off since that's the fastest way to go.

 

[kekke2000]

Why is there TC on the qualifying event ? shouldn't be there at all ... I think the more realistically you drive on GT Academy the higher your rank should be ... I know it's measured by time but there has to be another way (detracting time?) ... for instance I drive a g27 wheel with the simulation option, power-assisted steering off and feedback strength 1, so its more realistic ... So the less help you get (driving line included) the higher your rank should be ... its just not fair

From the leaderboards it looks like the ones who drive with realistic settings (all aids off and 900 degree steering wheel) pretty much fill up the top spots. There are a few controller users in the top but they are heavily outnumbered. Even they drive with no aids (except ABS).

I see no reason to change it. Everybody who uses unrealistic driving (controller, automatic, active steering, traction control and ASM) are left with pretty much no chance of winning and I don't think the driving line will help you much once you have learned the course.

 

[CarCzar]

Well, but, TC and all aids except ABS (and arguably, active steering) will make you slower.

Just check out the top times, they'll all be without any aids but ABS @ 1.

Trust me, all the top times will be with simulation steering, and all the usual aids off since that's the fastest way to go.

Exactly. I do not think that the leaderboards should be weighted. Drivers like doodlemonoply have been high up in the GT Academy and GT5 time trials with the DS3 for a long time. I believe a driver qualified for the the GT Academy Finals in the Middle East with a DS3 last year.

However, the wheel has a huge advantage, and I agree that its frustrating without that stability of a wheel. For those that don't have the cash for a new wheel, I'd recommend trying to pick yourself up a DFGT off of Craigslist or Ebay. I did that 4 years ago for $75 (USD) and the wheel is still running like brand new. 👍

 

[shoenboggie]

Exactly. I do not think that the leaderboards should be weighted. Drivers like doodlemonoply have been high up in the GT Academy and GT5 time trials with the DS3 for a long time. I believe a driver qualified for the the GT Academy Finals in the Middle East with a DS3 last year.

However, the wheel has a huge advantage, and I agree that its frustrating without that stability of a wheel. For those that don't have the cash for a new wheel, I'd recommend trying to pick yourself up a DFGT off of Craigslist or Ebay. I did that 4 years ago for $75 (USD) and the wheel is still running like brand new. 👍

X2 pick-up a used DFGT at the least if you can swing it. It's a driving game, need a wheel in my opinion other than the allen times doodlemonoply can put down.

 

[1gt6freak]

Well, but, TC and all aids except ABS (and arguably, active steering) will make you slower.

Just check out the top times, they'll all be without any aids but ABS @ 1.

Trust me, all the top times will be with simulation steering, and all the usual aids off since that's the fastest way to go.

Your absolutely right Wardez all aids except abs and steering assist will slow you down a lot in the curves, coming in and out of it. Active steering to me is not an assist since it helps you feel the road better, when you drive a Porsche you feel the road in the steering, when you drive a Buick, you don't feel the road. So why is feeling the road better an assist. Abs that's more a safety feature than an assist, it just prevents your wheels from locking up, and anyway you can break in shorter distance on dry roads without abs only good for rain water ice and snow, forgot you brake faster on gravel too without abs.

 

[mister dog]

What should affect the ranking to me, is people using the 3rd person view. It's just not realistic to be "hovering" above your own car when you race; you can see the corners a lot better from a distance and i also think it's easier to get the ideal lines that way.

This is something that does screws up the rankings i think, as it gives you a unfair advantage altough i'm not aware if many actually use that cam to get their top times (let's hope they don't)...

 

[ASH32]

What should affect the ranking to me, is people using the 3rd person view. It's just not realistic to be "hovering" above your own car when you race; you can see the corners a lot better from a distance and i also think it's easier to get the ideal lines that way.

This is something that does screws up the rankings i think, as it gives you a unfair advantage altough i'm not aware if many actually use that cam to get their top times (let's hope they don't)...

I pretty sure most of the fast guys do use bumper or hood/bonnet cam.

 

[smskeeter23]

I pretty sure most of the fast guys do use bumper or hood/bonnet cam.

I believe this to be the case as well. In GT5 I always use cockpit cam because I like the immersion. In GTA I switched to bumber and gained 2 seconds. Even though you can see the turns better in the other cameras you veiw is blocked by parts of the car IN the corners which is obviously counterproductive.

I also agree with the others on driving aids. I accidentally forgot to turn the ABS off during my first round and had a horrible throttle lag coming out of the corners I just couldn't beat. Switched off the ABS (once I figured out that it was on) and dropped 5 seconds on the next lap. Nobody will ever be in the top 31, even 1,000 with TC as you just can't get power to the wheels fast enough.

 

[awr117]

I feel cockpit should be mandatory for this event. I know 99% will disagree with me though.

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

I feel cockpit should be mandatory for this event. I know 99% will disagree with me though.

What is your reasoning?

 

[Lock2Lock]

I feel cockpit should be mandatory for this event. I know 99% will disagree with me though.

Only reason I say no to forced cockpit view is because the stupid pointless hand animation. If it didn't have that animation, the steering wheel would turn all the way around. So I use the hood view because I don't want to see two steering wheels, which one of them only turns 200 degrees. Pointless to force it.

Also not to mention the FoV isn't great on some cars.

 

[RacerTed]

What frustrates me is the tuning on this car doesn't work as well for me on a ds3. Blows my mind that somebody is actually in the lead using one.

When I do seasonals in gt5 I always have to really crank the toe angle up compared to what a wheel would use (I use Praiano's tunes and he tunes to a wheel) to get my car (don't matter which one) to handle around the corners as well as the AI cars.

Another thing I like and don't is the ghost car, on one hand it shows you your best that you have to beat, on the other if you're running right there with it you can't see the track as well.

 

[Jump_Ace]

feedback strength 1

How is that more realistic? You can't even feel any resistance to how the car is reacting. Or atleast I can't....


Jerome

 

[Johnnypenso]

Why is there TC on the qualifying event ? shouldn't be there at all ... I think the more realistically you drive on GT Academy the higher your rank should be ... I know it's measured by time but there has to be another way (detracting - I mean adding time?) ... for instance I drive a g27 wheel with the simulation option, power-assisted steering off and feedback strength 1, so its more realistic ... So the less help you get (driving line included) the higher your rank should be ... its just not fair

FYI simulation option doesn't work with any Logitech wheel including the G27.

I think the qualifier is fine the way it is for all the reasons previously stated.

 

[KingBestJr]

I have my force feedback at 10 on my dfgt. Just like last year. More to get prepared for feedback of Thrustmasters, wish I had one becsuse last year the pedals wereso different to me.

 

[mistersafeway]

Another thing I like and don't is the ghost car, on one hand it shows you your best that you have to beat, on the other if you're running right there with it you can't see the track as well.

Have you tried pressing up on the D-pad? 💡

 

[mjdmzn]

TCS and active steering are more of an assistance for beginners, and more of a restriction for professionals

TCS will stop you from getting good times though.

 

[lGNAl]

FYI simulation option doesn't work with any Logitech wheel including the G27.

Then why is it when I manipulate the power-assisted steering and feedback strength options I can feel the change of the wheels behavior ? .. I been playing with g27 since GT5 came out and never used a controller .. at first I nearly broke my hand once and fingures a couple of times, thats why i have it low, plus most new cars have electric steering and its almost the same feeling (in real cars u have less feel of the road) .. I've used Thrustmasters b4 but it's way too harsh for me .. maybe because I like to drift more than race so I turn at higher angles and just got used to how the wheel feels .. thanx 4 the replys :-)