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[sgohsixthree]

My lap times are way off, I'm withdrawing my reserve spot

Ok bud, I doubt next week will be full, but I'll keep you posted on future races.

 

[TVV0_]

My lap times are way off, I'm withdrawing my reserve spot

I am way off pace too all these guys know whats up though.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

I’ll be using the Ligier/Judd anyway

 

[sgohsixthree]

Qualifying almost over. Stream Starting soon.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Oh well at least I disconnected on the first lap. I DC’d an hour in to a 90 minute race in GTS on Saturday too, don’t know what’s wrong with my connection lately

 

[sgohsixthree]

Oh well at least I disconnected on the first lap. I DC’d an hour in to a 90 minute race in GTS on Saturday too, don’t know what’s wrong with my connection lately

I think a few of us got booted 30 minutes into the race. Might try GTS after that garbage.

 

[coltsjugg]

Solid race everyone. Other than the disco party, was the race incident free? Probably a first in any race ever.

 

[sgohsixthree]

Well shoot! Sounded like it ended up being a great race! Only took 6 disconnects for the race to shakedown. While I'm super disappointed the game decided to show me and 5 of my compadres the door, I'm very happy that @SGETI and @HazardLvL4 took victories in their classes!

Total domination fellas! Very well done. You survived the fatigue of endurance racing and the onslaught of the @coltsjugg mumble.

Here's to hoping there is a hotfix for any issues the new patch introduced, and also to next weeks shorter races in the F40s!

Here is the stream after my DC with my sorta commentary, and chat got kinda loud.

 

[coltsjugg]

You can put me up for GT3/E from now on. That's a hard no to the touring cars.

 

[aerolite]

Those disco’s really suck! Especially for you Shaun, being the host and creator.
I got a dc last night as well. Has to be something related to the new patch.
Thanks anyways for the night, it was a bit lonely but always fun to keep up the concentration for that length of time.
Congrats SGETI and Hazard!

 

[sgohsixthree]

You can put me up for GT3/E from now on. That's a hard no to the touring cars.

 

[HazardLvL4]

Good Morning All,

Let me start by saying thanks to @sgohsixthree for allowing me to run last night, I really appreciate it. Last night was a lot of fun. I really enjoy this style of endurance racing and am glad that SRM has set this up for everyone. I really liked the incorporation of the "random" weather slot, it kept me on my toes the whole time. It forced me to have multiple pit strategies ready to go in the event of wet weather.

My game-plan of the race was to run 2 stints with 1 pit stop, pending no rain. I started on SOFT comps. and ran long on them having my fuel consumption be the governing factor of when I would pit. My fuel was down to 12 L with 39 min. to go. I would of gone one more lap, but the tires were pretty twitchy by that point, thus I pitted. Took on 60L of fuel and a fresh set of SOFT comps. I was consuming 5.9 - 6.1 L/lap for the entirety of the race. Once I was out of the pits and hit the Mulsanne straight, I selected my WET pit stop strat. using the ICM. This way if it rained I was ready for it. Like everyone, I was driving conservative only pushing the car 85% - 90%, and trying to keep a pace around 3:55's. Towards the end, as the sun came back up I began pushing a little harder all the way up to the end keeping the car in the 3:53's.

Overall, I look forward to the next event at SPA, and can't wait to get back on track with everyone. Again thank you @sgohsixthree and SRM as a whole for putting on this series, and allowing me to run last night.

See you all on track soon!

-Haz

 

[TVV0_]

Great pace @HazardLvL4 you had that thing moving. Pb for me in the race 4:00.217 (3:58.x pb on softs on my own)i was on hard and with no draft could only muster 175mph on the straights. Had a blast i was hoping to do better but i pitted once went good then i binned the car amd had to stop a second time.. i too am looking forward to SPA and will run the NSX GT3 again

 

[TVV0_]

I think i do need some help getting up to pace i have improved a bit but still way off pace. Not sure if i dont drive hard enough or my setup is off. After an hour (fuel stop) hard slicks were 1/4 worn and cold still. Oil temp at 96°. Brakes at 141° still cold.

 

[mexxifrieboy]

I think i do need some help getting up to pace i have improved a bit but still way off pace. Not sure if i dont drive hard enough or my setup is off. After an hour (fuel stop) hard slicks were 1/4 worn and cold still. Oil temp at 96°. Brakes at 141° still cold.

Well one thing is hards weren't the right choice. Once it went to night they are too cold and have much less grip. Alot of it will come to setup too.

 

[2pfspiff]

Thanks sgohsixthree and SRM for a great race night. I love endurance racing. The last league I was in did the same thing with Le Mans but made the race 2.4 hrs. I had a pretty good car last night. I made 3 stops last night. I probably could have done it in 2, but I had enough of a lead on Mike that I was able to get a splash of fuel on the 2nd to last lap to seal the deal for 3rd place. I look forward to the next race at Spa on 7/31.

 

[etcetera_911]

It was a rough night for me, anytime I was near another car I stuffed it into the wall. Was having a **** day to begin with so RAGEQUIT!

 

[CB_racer]

 

[TVV0_]

Well one thing is hards weren't the right choice. Once it went to night they are too cold and have much less grip. Alot of it will come to setup too.

Yeah i was hoping to stretch the stint out to not stop but fuel just wasnt there. Needed like 12L to finish.. im curious if someone else took my car setup how fast they could do the lap. car felt really good

 

[HazardLvL4]

I think i do need some help getting up to pace i have improved a bit but still way off pace. Not sure if i dont drive hard enough or my setup is off. After an hour (fuel stop) hard slicks were 1/4 worn and cold still. Oil temp at 96°. Brakes at 141° still cold.

So in Project Cars 1 tire temp was handled completely differently from Project Cars 2. In Project Cars 2 tire temp is mainly driven by brake temp. As the brakes heat up they radiate heat into the rim and tire. Thus, keeping your brakes in the optimal temp. range is key to keeping warm tires, this can be tuned by your brake duct opening %. Now, that doesn't mean the friction generated by driving and direction change has not effect, just not as large as it once was in the first game. Here is something I posted in PITS 2 a while back:

Technical Bulletin:

Project Cars 2 Tyre Pressure & Temp Data: Hot Pressure & Temp. Targets

Casey Ringley - (Vehicle Technical Lead for Project Cars 2)

Temp. across the tire = 10 - 20 deg. F or 5 - 10 deg. C (Can be tuned via camber)

Overall Tire Temp:
Soft Comp = 70 - 85 deg. C (158 - 185 deg. F)
Hard Comp = 90 - 95 deg. C (194 - 204 deg. F)

Brake Temps: (Steel Brakes)
Straights (Temp. should stabilize) = 300 deg. C
Hard braking max. temp. = 650 - 700 deg. C

Telemetry: (Travel)
When "Travel" flashes “Red” It means you are beginning to engage the bump stop, or getting to the limits of the suspension's movement.

Rough targets for the main tire groups:

Formula Cars (IndyCar, FX, FA, FR3.5): 1.7bar front / 1.45bar rear (24psi / 21psi) at road circuits. The Dallara IR-12 oval/speedway tires like up to 45psi on the right side.

Modern GT & LMP: ~1.8bar front and rear. Maybe down to 1.6bar for a very slow track like Long Beach or higher to 1.90-1.95bar at Le Mans to squeeze a little bit more off the rolling resistance.

Touring cars & V8 Supercar: 2.0-2.15bar front and rear

Ford Fusion Stock Car: 2.4-2.6bar front and rear for road courses. Ovals might go to 3.0bar+ (45-50psi) on the right side

Light sportscars (Radical, BAC, KTM, etc): ~1.6bar (24psi)

Road car tires: All in the 2.1-2.2bar (29-32psi) range hot. Any MotorTrend readers will know how much they stop every few laps and bleed pressure to hold that target during the BDC tests.

Vintage GT: Roughly the same range as modern GT

Vintage Group 6 & Formula: Bit more flexible here. Something in the 1.7bar (25psi) range is usually a good starting point up to 2.0bar (29psi) or down to 1.2bar (17psi) to adjust for balance on something wild like the Lotus 72D

 

[sgohsixthree]

Good Morning All,

Let me start by saying thanks to @sgohsixthree for allowing me to run last night, I really appreciate it. Last night was a lot of fun. I really enjoy this style of endurance racing and am glad that SRM has set this up for everyone. I really liked the incorporation of the "random" weather slot, it kept me on my toes the whole time. It forced me to have multiple pit strategies ready to go in the event of wet weather.

My game-plan of the race was to run 2 stints with 1 pit stop, pending no rain. I started on SOFT comps. and ran long on them having my fuel consumption be the governing factor of when I would pit. My fuel was down to 12 L with 39 min. to go. I would of gone one more lap, but the tires were pretty twitchy by that point, thus I pitted. Took on 60L of fuel and a fresh set of SOFT comps. I was consuming 5.9 - 6.1 L/lap for the entirety of the race. Once I was out of the pits and hit the Mulsanne straight, I selected my WET pit stop strat. using the ICM. This way if it rained I was ready for it. Like everyone, I was driving conservative only pushing the car 85% - 90%, and trying to keep a pace around 3:55's. Towards the end, as the sun came back up I began pushing a little harder all the way up to the end keeping the car in the 3:53's.

Overall, I look forward to the next event at SPA, and can't wait to get back on track with everyone. Again thank you @sgohsixthree and SRM as a whole for putting on this series, and allowing me to run last night.

See you all on track soon!

-Haz

Really glad to have you, and appreciate you sticking it out till the last minute for the invite. I guess qualifying didn't matter for you anyway, cause you DESTROYED! Awesome stuff man. Also, great sense of humor and the help and insight you lend to others is what we're about.

Great pace @HazardLvL4 you had that thing moving. Pb for me in the race 4:00.217 (3:58.x pb on softs on my own)i was on hard and with no draft could only muster 175mph on the straights. Had a blast i was hoping to do better but i pitted once went good then i binned the car amd had to stop a second time.. i too am looking forward to SPA and will run the NSX GT3 again

Glad a stern talk with your overheating PS4 worked out! Nice showing!

Thanks sgohsixthree and SRM for a great race night. I love endurance racing. The last league I was in did the same thing with Le Mans but made the race 2.4 hrs. I had a pretty good car last night. I made 3 stops last night. I probably could have done it in 2, but I had enough of a lead on Mike that I was able to get a splash of fuel on the 2nd to last lap to seal the deal for 3rd place. I look forward to the next race at Spa on 7/31.

Is that race the same as this one?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...-mans-2-4h-june-16th-21-00-gmt-1-join.375607/

I'm considering joining. (Even though it will go way past my bedtime, and because my race was cut short and the itch wasn't scratched) Wonder if anyone else who DCed might want to make another attempt some time in the next couple weeks. Either outside SRM or as a side night.

It was a rough night for me, anytime I was near another car I stuffed it into the wall. Was having a **** day to begin with so RAGEQUIT!

You had the pace man. I think it would have been an awesome podium battle if you, @mexxifrieboy and I had been able to stay in. So about the thing above. I know your time is limited. Maybe a late night LeMans Enduro?

Super bummer man. When I was trying to figure out how to get back in the room after my DC, I pulled up your stream to try and watch. Then I saw that you DCed too. Its terrible when we put this much effort into something and then something out of our control ruins our night. I feel you. And I'll propose to you also, you still want to try and get a LeMans Enduro in?

Also... here is my video of my disconnect. Kids cover your ears!

 

[TVV0_]

@sgohsixthree I would like to join for another run at le man too. Maybe after i change this car a bit to heat up i might get the 6seconds i want haha. @HazardLvL4 thanks for the notes i am definitely going to put them to good use.

 

[oldguy58]

I didn't get DC'd but I'd be up for another run at LeMans. @TVV0_ I'll share my setup since we're in the same car but you'll probably go slower, lol. Could have done the race on 1stop with softs but damage made it a 2 stopper for me.
BWT, awesome race guys. Im just and old slow guy but I had a blast!

 

[CB_racer]

I would like another shot at Le Mans also, but I won't be around the next three weeks.

 

[2pfspiff]

Are we running Lemans again or is the next endurance race at Spa? I would run Lemans again, but I think I am on nights for that race.

 

[sgohsixthree]

Are we running Lemans again or is the next endurance race at Spa? I would run Lemans again, but I think I am on nights for that race.

I’ll be working on something and let you guys know. It will be separate from the Series and just for fun.

Next Enduro Series race is Spa end of July.

 

[etcetera_911]

So in Project Cars 1 tire temp was handled completely differently from Project Cars 2. In Project Cars 2 tire temp is mainly driven by brake temp. As the brakes heat up they radiate heat into the rim and tire. Thus, keeping your brakes in the optimal temp. range is key to keeping warm tires, this can be tuned by your brake duct opening %. Now, that doesn't mean the friction generated by driving and direction change has not effect, just not as large as it once was in the first game. Here is something I posted in PITS 2 a while back:

Technical Bulletin:

Project Cars 2 Tyre Pressure & Temp Data: Hot Pressure & Temp. Targets

Casey Ringley - (Vehicle Technical Lead for Project Cars 2)

Temp. across the tire = 10 - 20 deg. F or 5 - 10 deg. C (Can be tuned via camber)

Overall Tire Temp:
Soft Comp = 70 - 85 deg. C (158 - 185 deg. F)
Hard Comp = 90 - 95 deg. C (194 - 204 deg. F)

Brake Temps: (Steel Brakes)
Straights (Temp. should stabilize) = 300 deg. C
Hard braking max. temp. = 650 - 700 deg. C

Telemetry: (Travel)
When "Travel" flashes “Red” It means you are beginning to engage the bump stop, or getting to the limits of the suspension's movement.

Rough targets for the main tire groups:

Formula Cars (IndyCar, FX, FA, FR3.5): 1.7bar front / 1.45bar rear (24psi / 21psi) at road circuits. The Dallara IR-12 oval/speedway tires like up to 45psi on the right side.

Modern GT & LMP: ~1.8bar front and rear. Maybe down to 1.6bar for a very slow track like Long Beach or higher to 1.90-1.95bar at Le Mans to squeeze a little bit more off the rolling resistance.

Touring cars & V8 Supercar: 2.0-2.15bar front and rear

Ford Fusion Stock Car: 2.4-2.6bar front and rear for road courses. Ovals might go to 3.0bar+ (45-50psi) on the right side

Light sportscars (Radical, BAC, KTM, etc): ~1.6bar (24psi)

Road car tires: All in the 2.1-2.2bar (29-32psi) range hot. Any MotorTrend readers will know how much they stop every few laps and bleed pressure to hold that target during the BDC tests.

Vintage GT: Roughly the same range as modern GT

Vintage Group 6 & Formula: Bit more flexible here. Something in the 1.7bar (25psi) range is usually a good starting point up to 2.0bar (29psi) or down to 1.2bar (17psi) to adjust for balance on something wild like the Lotus 72D

I love the level of detail this game has, but they need a more automated way to get the cars driveable. There needs a way to push a button to get a good setup for the given track and conditions, and allow for fine tuning from there.

If I ever have time to do a good tune its usually just suspension. Rarely do I have time to do a full suspension/tire/gearing setup to make some of these cars driveable.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[bigtimedave]

So in Project Cars 1 tire temp was handled completely differently from Project Cars 2. In Project Cars 2 tire temp is mainly driven by brake temp. As the brakes heat up they radiate heat into the rim and tire. Thus, keeping your brakes in the optimal temp. range is key to keeping warm tires, this can be tuned by your brake duct opening %. Now, that doesn't mean the friction generated by driving and direction change has not effect, just not as large as it once was in the first game. Here is something I posted in PITS 2 a while back:

Technical Bulletin:

Project Cars 2 Tyre Pressure & Temp Data: Hot Pressure & Temp. Targets

Casey Ringley - (Vehicle Technical Lead for Project Cars 2)

Temp. across the tire = 10 - 20 deg. F or 5 - 10 deg. C (Can be tuned via camber)

Overall Tire Temp:
Soft Comp = 70 - 85 deg. C (158 - 185 deg. F)
Hard Comp = 90 - 95 deg. C (194 - 204 deg. F)

Brake Temps: (Steel Brakes)
Straights (Temp. should stabilize) = 300 deg. C
Hard braking max. temp. = 650 - 700 deg. C

Telemetry: (Travel)
When "Travel" flashes “Red” It means you are beginning to engage the bump stop, or getting to the limits of the suspension's movement.

Rough targets for the main tire groups:

Formula Cars (IndyCar, FX, FA, FR3.5): 1.7bar front / 1.45bar rear (24psi / 21psi) at road circuits. The Dallara IR-12 oval/speedway tires like up to 45psi on the right side.

Modern GT & LMP: ~1.8bar front and rear. Maybe down to 1.6bar for a very slow track like Long Beach or higher to 1.90-1.95bar at Le Mans to squeeze a little bit more off the rolling resistance.

Touring cars & V8 Supercar: 2.0-2.15bar front and rear

Ford Fusion Stock Car: 2.4-2.6bar front and rear for road courses. Ovals might go to 3.0bar+ (45-50psi) on the right side

Light sportscars (Radical, BAC, KTM, etc): ~1.6bar (24psi)

Road car tires: All in the 2.1-2.2bar (29-32psi) range hot. Any MotorTrend readers will know how much they stop every few laps and bleed pressure to hold that target during the BDC tests.

Vintage GT: Roughly the same range as modern GT

Vintage Group 6 & Formula: Bit more flexible here. Something in the 1.7bar (25psi) range is usually a good starting point up to 2.0bar (29psi) or down to 1.2bar (17psi) to adjust for balance on something wild like the Lotus 72D

Congrats @SGETI and @HazardLvL4 on there wins you guys were really moving along on Le Sarthe track! And I'm thinking the F40 series will be a handful the way that Ferrari handles, especially at Brands Hatch Circuit.

 

[coltsjugg]

Le mans again? If its the same as last time I vote yes. If its different, who cares what I think.

 

[sgohsixthree]

Thoughts on this?

This Tuesday we run the LeMans race again for those who got hosed on the last one. Scored for fun, the points from last race will stand for the series. Same classes, because everyone put a good amount of time preparing last time.

I'd like to get this in before the actual race next weekend. Instead of doing it another night, and avoid conflict with others series or other obligations you might have during the week we can keep to Tuesday and...

We cram the F40 series into 2 nights (3 races a night) and keep Knockout Night on 7/3, which I'll have finalized soon.

Yay? Nay? GF'ed?