Tried Ruf CTR2 on CS, it's front wheel drive car! Transmission balance controller fix it, but it's weird. I would even understand this bug at old standart model, but smart "AWD" Subaru VIZIV is FWD too. I think there are few more cars with the same problem, quick search didn't give results, didn't anyone notice that?
Some of AWD Cars in GT6 is... FWD?
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No, it's not front wheel drive, it's because more power is being sent to the front compared to the rear.
The VISIV only feels like a FWD car due to the power from the engine being sent to the front, and the power from the electric motor being sent to the rear (I think). After a short while, it'll feel like a 4WD car.
The VISIV only feels like a FWD car due to the power from the engine being sent to the front, and the power from the electric motor being sent to the rear (I think). After a short while, it'll feel like a 4WD car.
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1. How do you know that this is the case?
2 If it is the case then the center differential has been modeled completely wrong.
@artem9000 I think it's just another wrongly modeled car. The Audi TT 1.8T Quattro is the same.
@TS040Hybrid, check this battle between GT-R and CTR2 on Fuji Speedway
@Vegard, I think the same, and I found a tread from GT5 with the same question.
@Vegard, I think the same, and I found a tread from GT5 with the same question.
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CTR2 peels the inside front tire because that makes it safe. It's not a center diff issue, it's a front diff issue. Of all the tires to peel out in a 4WD car, that's the best one.
No, you didn't understand, it's just burnout by the front wheels only, car doesn't sliding and has a huge understeer. With 30:70 custom controller CTR2 is great, with 4-wheel sliding and all.
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Anytime I drive a stock CTR2 it just spins the inside front and still works fine.
Guess I don't understand your point.
Guess I don't understand your point.
Do you drive on Comfort Soft?
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I drive on all tires. I've got many kilometers on all the RUF cars. I like em a lot. 
CodeRedR51
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I can't say for sure with the RUF, but some AWD based sedans such as the Mazdaspeed6 are a front biased AWD system. They run in FWD most of the time and switch to AWD only when it's needed.
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I cannot agree with that. I just can't. A FWD biased RUF?
With an open center diff and open axle diffs, weight transfer and etc., it may seem that way, but it's just not logical. Hence when artem9000000 said he added a controllable, not open center diff, it changed. Simply, when weight transfers, the tires with no weight are the first to peel. Like a FWD car. With an engine in the back and all the weight on that axle, it's gonna be hard to peel some tires.
With an open center diff and open axle diffs, weight transfer and etc., it may seem that way, but it's just not logical. Hence when artem9000000 said he added a controllable, not open center diff, it changed. Simply, when weight transfers, the tires with no weight are the first to peel. Like a FWD car. With an engine in the back and all the weight on that axle, it's gonna be hard to peel some tires.
CodeRedR51
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If this is in response to me, see previous post edited to change "can" to "can't". Typo on my part.
"I can't say for sure with the RUF" = I don't know about that car. The Mazdaspeed was an example of a car that would be correct in the game as FWD biased.
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R1600, it was and regarding the Mazda then yeah, as it starts as a FWD car. So then there's the after thought addition of RWD. Hondas are the same. Completely different systems. 👍
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I'd say if this thread is specifically about the RUF the title needs to be changed.
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You do realise that the RUF has a Rear Mounted engine.....
When you accelerate, the weight shifts over the rear wheels even further, so the wheel with less grip will spin..
generally front left.
If you've ever driven a powerful AWD road car (take a Subaru) for example without locked diff's, you'll know it's normal
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Haven't driven the CTR2 in GT6 yet, but the Viziv isn't FWD either, it just has a ton of torque going to the front wheels when the hybrid engine kicks in.
I'm guessing the CTR2 is similar, in that it has a ton of grip over the rear tires during acceleration, so the fronts will lose it first even if they aren't getting as much power.
Even if it has a 40:60 power split and a 40:60 weight balance, that might go down to like 25:75 (or something) during accel, so if it's got a 40:60 power split the fronts will be getting "more power" than the rear relative to the amount of weight/grip they have. If you then try to turn, you'll just spin the front tires.. In order to get the rear to slide you have to better control the weight shift of the car.
I'm guessing the CTR2 is similar, in that it has a ton of grip over the rear tires during acceleration, so the fronts will lose it first even if they aren't getting as much power.
Even if it has a 40:60 power split and a 40:60 weight balance, that might go down to like 25:75 (or something) during accel, so if it's got a 40:60 power split the fronts will be getting "more power" than the rear relative to the amount of weight/grip they have. If you then try to turn, you'll just spin the front tires.. In order to get the rear to slide you have to better control the weight shift of the car.
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Some of the AWD cars in real life are FWD most of the time, power is only sent to the rear if/when required.
I pulled a fuse to disengage the rear differential clutch in my Mazda Tribute, it has been FWD ever since.
I pulled a fuse to disengage the rear differential clutch in my Mazda Tribute, it has been FWD ever since.
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Reading a little about the Porsche 993, it says the center diff will send 5-50% to the front and they use the brakes to control the inside (rear only I presume) tire to aid in cornering.
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The aforementioned TT has been messed up all the way back to GT3, so it is unsurprising that it still doesn't work right. But if the CTR2 is suffering from the same issue, that's even odder since the 993 AWD system is capable of sending most of the power to either axle but by default sends over 85% of it to the rear.
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The CTR2?
Not following what you're saying here.
Not following what you're saying here.
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Before we get any deeper into what features/characteristics the real life drive train has please remember that this is Gran Turismo, the cars may look different and feel different but they're all running the same software and play by the same rules. A VW Beetle is running the same underpinnings as a Veyron, there are no variable diffs, torque vectoring or sophisticated traction control systems, a few more common systems such as active aero or AYC are attempted but its ham-fisted at best and just utilizes pre-existing assets such as TC/SRF/Downforce values
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Wish you said VW Beetle running the same underpinnings as a RUF.
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