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Its an enjoyable fantasy. Just now doesn't the trip to Mars take 8 months? Talking about a one month round trip sounds like dragons and zombies, magic inconceivable in the real world. Controversial, experimental technology aspires to cut the trip time in half, which would be worth talking about.
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Press conference live stream. Says no earlier than 1:00 eastern.
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From the conference so far:
- They have a serious problem. They have 4 months of supplies left. The crew will be returned when they are down to 45 days.
- Water and water filtration and provisions are probably the biggest loss to the ISS. And the docking adapter and radio system. Russian Progress and Soyuz flights are pending, as is one from Japan later in the summer.
- The ISS water processor is reaching its limits.
- All three commercial vehicles to ISS (Orbital, Progress and Space-X ) were lost in a one year time frame.
- Stand-down of Musk's rocket until problems are understood.
- FAA will have oversight of the investigation which will be conducted by Space-X, which operates on an FAA license.
- Commercial crewed vehicles are paused and under scrutiny, as are budgets. But they want to continue with the concept. Boeing is working on one.
- The Russian Progress launch which adds crew to the ISS is still on for next month.
- They have a serious problem. They have 4 months of supplies left. The crew will be returned when they are down to 45 days.
- Water and water filtration and provisions are probably the biggest loss to the ISS. And the docking adapter and radio system. Russian Progress and Soyuz flights are pending, as is one from Japan later in the summer.
- The ISS water processor is reaching its limits.
- All three commercial vehicles to ISS (Orbital, Progress and Space-X ) were lost in a one year time frame.
- Stand-down of Musk's rocket until problems are understood.
- FAA will have oversight of the investigation which will be conducted by Space-X, which operates on an FAA license.
- Commercial crewed vehicles are paused and under scrutiny, as are budgets. But they want to continue with the concept. Boeing is working on one.
- The Russian Progress launch which adds crew to the ISS is still on for next month.
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I don't think the FAA investigation is a new thing, probably happens with every failure.
The stand-down of the Falcon rockets is a no brainer really. I wouldn't want to be launching any more of my rockets if I didn't know why the last one blew up...
The stand-down of the Falcon rockets is a no brainer really. I wouldn't want to be launching any more of my rockets if I didn't know why the last one blew up...
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Automobiles were not safe or reliable in the first 60 years. But now they are. Rocketry will take another 40 years to be perfected, I'd guess.
And I approve of NASA's substantial commitment to automated exploration of the solar system, and to their productive research in heliophysics and the sun-earth connection as mandated in the latest decadal survey.
The one thing I disagree with is optimism about crewed missions beyond low earth orbit.
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This is SpaceX's first failure since they started doing satellite & resupply missions. I'd say their success rate is quite high. Nobody is perfect, and we all know the Shuttle was not perfect either. Traveling to space is no easy task, stuff like this will continue to happen for some time. You learn from these failures and move forward.
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I was half joking xD
In all seriousness, SpaceX has, like you said, done a good job and are always working towards doing a better job. That being said, I always feel that the Shuttle was retired too early
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100% with you on that. I would say like what boeing did with the 747-800
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The Shuttle took more weight into space than it needed to, the reusable launch stage might be inherently more efficient. It should also be easier to recover given the amount of runway the Shuttle needed since reentry necessitated terrible gliding wings.
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Article on cosmology and the holographic universe.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8847863/holographic-principle-universe
Fermilab's Holometer, used in tests that some say could find evidence for the holographic principle. (Fermilab)
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8847863/holographic-principle-universe
Fermilab's Holometer, used in tests that some say could find evidence for the holographic principle. (Fermilab)
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SpaceX are still trying to figure out what happened. Crunching numbers down to the last millisecond of available data.
I watched the launch a few more times, it's crazy how the second stage came apart and the first stage was still going for quite some time. I guess the capsule was also returning data for a while after the initial breakup.
I watched the launch a few more times, it's crazy how the second stage came apart and the first stage was still going for quite some time. I guess the capsule was also returning data for a while after the initial breakup.
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Yeah, an now all the morons on the internet are like "at least the Russians know how to build a rocket" and "SpaceX could learn a thing or two from the Russians", blah, blah, blah.... 
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Something very bad has happened to the Pluto mission. Maybe zapped by a cosmic ray, maybe something else.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/something-scary-went-wrong-nasas-181900139.html
At 1:54 p.m. ET on July 4, something happened that caused New Horizons to cut communications with Earth, NASA reported. Scientists are now trying to figure what that "something" was.
Fortunately, the agency was able to reestablish a connection with the spacecraft within the next 90 minutes. They reported that the spacecraft is still "healthy" and on course to fly by Pluto.
That's the good news.
The bad news is that in order to reestablish connection, the spacecraft kicked itself into safe mode and is now no longer collecting scientific data. So, all of the photos and scientific measurements that scientists have been looking forward to for nearly a decade, since New Horizonslaunched on January 19, 2006, might never be collected.
"This is scary," wrote Emily Lakdawalla for The Planetary Society. "It's not what the team wanted to be dealing with right now."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/something-scary-went-wrong-nasas-181900139.html
At 1:54 p.m. ET on July 4, something happened that caused New Horizons to cut communications with Earth, NASA reported. Scientists are now trying to figure what that "something" was.
Fortunately, the agency was able to reestablish a connection with the spacecraft within the next 90 minutes. They reported that the spacecraft is still "healthy" and on course to fly by Pluto.
That's the good news.
The bad news is that in order to reestablish connection, the spacecraft kicked itself into safe mode and is now no longer collecting scientific data. So, all of the photos and scientific measurements that scientists have been looking forward to for nearly a decade, since New Horizonslaunched on January 19, 2006, might never be collected.
"This is scary," wrote Emily Lakdawalla for The Planetary Society. "It's not what the team wanted to be dealing with right now."
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Well, there are 2 possibilities...
1) The invaders from another solar system have set up a staging base and do not want to be discovered before they come for us.
2) Native Plutonians are pissed about their homeworld losing status as a planet and are like, "Don't be bringing your toys out here and expecting us to play fair!"
Seriously, I hope they can get it worked out, but with a nine-hour signal round trip, it's going to be excrutiating in the control center, waiting to see if things work that they're trying.
1) The invaders from another solar system have set up a staging base and do not want to be discovered before they come for us.
2) Native Plutonians are pissed about their homeworld losing status as a planet and are like, "Don't be bringing your toys out here and expecting us to play fair!"
Seriously, I hope they can get it worked out, but with a nine-hour signal round trip, it's going to be excrutiating in the control center, waiting to see if things work that they're trying.
