Special Events - Discussion and Troubleshooting

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Yeah the Intermediate AMG school full track was kicking my butt last night. To be frank it was the only thing I played yesterday for like an hour. Gold the 4 individual sector by 3rd try for each of them and gave the full lap only 2 go and I am still stuck around 7:12-ish....interesting point by Touring Mars though, I was thinking about adding up the required sector time to see how fast its asking me to go comparing full lap to individual sectors. I had trouble with the Beginner school with all the sector test barring the first one yet I beat the full lap easy.....weird....

I decided to do the Intermediate AMG Driving Academy challenge today. I found it a bit easier to beat the gold times by a bigger margin for some reason, on all the sectors compared to the beginner one. Probably because it is a faster car and they give a bigger margin of error. The full lap also is very forgiving in terms of lap time, I managed to crash twice I think and still got gold time by 2 and a bit tenths so it is doable. I crashed in places where I'm usually quite good at which is annoying and wanted to do a clean lap to save. I was going to give up but I decided to see where I would get placed and couldn't believe it was good enough for gold. I guess one guy on here claims his done it 15 seconds faster than gold time, so I guess that is why you can crash and win. I think the trick is to do drive like a mad man in a way :crazy:. The way I drove, I'm sure I would have destroyed the tyres and written of the car in real life but this is the virtual world :sly:.

I could try and record it if you like, it's a bit embarrassing near the end as I went off because I didn't turn in and brake enough. I normally ace it but with the off near the end I'm sure it will give you confidence to complete it easier knowing I crashed a bit and did it. Let me know if you want it uploading.
 
The beginner and advanced top gear challenges were so much fun in advanced try and limit your speed to around 80kph 81 top limit and the limiter brings you back to around 72, hit the limiter on the first corner as the schwimmwagens will get you if you dont and its a DQ the other cars i find hit the limiter so you do gain an advantage that way. Beginner was much the same although there wasnt an issue with the limiter
 
I'd love to see that.

I just did the first 4/5 Beginner AMG events.

I'll Gold the 5th tonight, but there is no way your doing that.



I use a wheel, manual trasmission and no driving line. I was pushing that 57 merc to its limits to get the gold and sure as hell not beating it by 2-5 seconds. Your bsing. or your using a controller with all aids on.

Controller with aids on would struggle to do the gold time. I use the Logitech GT and I think I did it about 3 seconds quicker from memory the full lap with the SL300. I just used ABS 1 as the only aid. I don't get where this guy is getting the 15 seconds from but I can understand as I was always about 1-2 seconds of the top times in time trial mode in GT5P and I guess you could make 12 seconds on me for the full Nurburgring. (Provided he is not talking crap.)

Both the SL300 and SLS AMG are wonderful cars to drive and you can really attack the Nurburgring so the more skillful players may have less a margin to me in these cars but still probably a sizable chunk of time.
 
I decided to do the Intermediate AMG Driving Academy challenge today. I found it a bit easier to beat the gold times by a bigger margin for some reason, on all the sectors compared to the beginner one. Probably because it is a faster car and they give a bigger margin of error. The full lap also is very forgiving in terms of lap time, I managed to crash twice I think and still got gold time by 2 and a bit tenths so it is doable. I crashed in places where I'm usually quite good at which is annoying and wanted to do a clean lap to save. I was going to give up but I decided to see where I would get placed and couldn't believe it was good enough for gold. I guess one guy on here claims his done it 15 seconds faster than gold time, so I guess that is why you can crash and win. I think the trick is to do drive like a mad man in a way :crazy:. The way I drove, I'm sure I would have destroyed the tyres and written of the car in real life but this is the virtual world :sly:.

I could try and record it if you like, it's a bit embarrassing near the end as I went off because I didn't turn in and brake enough. I normally ace it but with the off near the end I'm sure it will give you confidence to complete it easier knowing I crashed a bit and did it. Let me know if you want it uploading.

Thanks for the offer, though I don't think I haven't gave it my full crack at it yet(12am on a week night when work is the next day was not a idea...lol). I'll give it some more go today and see how that works out. I am dreading the thought for a wet lap that I am sure is coming in the higher level though....lol
 
The AMG driving challenge is definitely the easiest special event but at the same time the most enjoyable. :) Trying to get to level 24 right now so I can do the expert tier of the event.
 
YES! :D After about 4 🤬 hours of trying, and getting an infuriating 7.05.103 :(, I finally passed the intermediate AMG final challenge with a 7.04.034! Best tip I can think of is to turn traction control OFF, it really helps!
 
I realise I'm a bit late to the party here. Not a dig at anyone, but I originally came here looking for assistance and to find someone saying how good they are is even worse than no help at all. They often do rightly point out there is no substitute for practice and experience, but if you do have the time to throw an hour or two at it you want to make sure you are getting the most from your valuable time. I consider myself to be straight down the middle average so if I can Gold them, you probably can too.

With the AMG tests I really struggled getting Gold on the beginner, only got the first initially, gave up and just did the lot in Silver, I have recently gone back and put many hours (literarily none stop for a couple of evenings) and found the following really usefull. Not so much tips, but how I cracked what I had thought to be impossible for me. I'm no ring expert, hadn't really "got it" until this installment. was just treating it as just another really long track.

Most important - Despite the times adding up to more than the seperate sections, the full lap is much easier (once you know each section obviously) despite the traffic. I put this down to the 3 second countdown that would start each section where you aren't going full throttle, and also any speed you can carry through, and obviously you know the layout fairly well once you've golded the sections.

Also Important - Intermediate is easier than beginner, at least for me anyway, don't think if you can't Gold beginner you won't be able to on Inter. Early runs in the wet suggest the same, I assume due to the faster car/bad conditions forcing a bigger margin for error and your newly found experience.

Important to note - the demo often doesn't get a gold time, always very near but sometimes not quite, so it is a target to be beaten not matched.

Watch the demo for the section in question, switch it to to your usual driving viewpoint using select as normal and make a note of it's time as it passes memorable landmarks, end of a certain kerb, a signpost, grafitti on the track, whatever you find easiest. 3 per section is more than enough. I found checking these times at the points becomes very natural. (I still do it on the full lap despite it now being meaningless)
Watch your time against these markers, but if you miss the target time don't restart, carry on aware you are a second or whatever behind and compare at the next point. This way I found I could identify which part of the section I was gaining or losing time against the demo, but more importantly, when you eventually start nailing the early sections you will still be familiar with the later parts. The first time I started doing this I was quiting if I missed a time. I then found that when I was eventually beating the pace time to each marker I was just throwing it away not being familiar enough with the later bends in each section.
Once you've identified the corner/section you are losing the time watch the demo again, as the car approaches the corner in question pause it using the start button, then advance it a tiny bit at a time by hitting start twice quickly, I nailed down the breaking and turning in points this way, to the point that my weakest corners have become the strongest on the full lap. The demo is by no means perfect and there are faster lines, but it pointed out a couple of times (particularly on blind corners) I was just visualising the line all wrong.
The demo will also highlight corners that can be taken in a different gear to the recomended one and any brake points that can be ignored (or are flexible) if you use the driving line. I ultimately find it easier off, but the first few times you try your probably best with it on if you don't know the track that well.

Use manual gears, I tend to put it on auto for tracks I don't know well, but there are a number of places I found keeping the revs high in a different gear just helped slide the back round a bit and vice versa.

If you are still unsure, watch back the replay of your run from the TV type view outside of the car, and watch for corners that look wrong. I found it easier to see missed apex's and poor lines that felt good when viewed from the inside. I'm sure were all used to seeing pro drivers on TV nailing perfect racing lines so they do tend to stand out.

DON'T GIVE UP!!

I was 3 seconds of the section 2 time Gold for ages, I'm talking 30+ runs before I sussed the 2 corners I was messing up. had it beat within 5 after that. 2 poor lines/break points/exits really can make that much difference.

Good luck.
 
Hi everyone! I've a little question, I got gold in all Beginner and Intermediate challenges and i'd like to know if Advanced is going to be easier or harder. I found the Beginner challenges much harder than the Intermediate ones so i'm curious :dopey:
 
Because the Alfa at Eiger understeers so much, i drifted through the Quad-hairpin section. It knocked my previous time down my about 2.5 seconds.
I don't get it way sideways, but i get the tires slippin to keep it oversteering. I also keep it in 2nd gear only so if i need to stop slipping, it is quite easy to do so.
Since i am restarting my save game, i might take some videos of my replays. Most likely, i will save the replay of everything that I gold.
 
I did the sebastion loeb events first time with gold by about 5 seconds...

I found them really easy...

Either you are a professional rally driver or you had skid recovery force switched on. Those events are ridiculously easy with SRF turned on. With no assists they're pretty hard. Chamonix with no assists is really, really hard. I tried Chamonix many times and was still 1 second off silver. Turned on SRF and left the ghost car trailing in my dust, stopped half way round for a picnic and some sightseeing and still got gold by 10 seconds.

Assist settings make a big difference in a few events. In the NASCAR events I'm not even sure you can get gold in the advanced ones without turning ABS off (turning off the ABS turns off the ASM). With the stupid ASM off they're pretty easy.
 
For anyone that is struggling with the advanced AMG school, here is a tip that probably most know about, but for the sector 1 and sector 2, there is 1 corner for each sector where you can 'cut' the track. I know this isn't 'racing', but honestly you will shave 2-3 seconds off your time and save you ALOT of stress.

It is up to you if you want to use it, but I would recommend people using this for the 1st, 2nd, and full laps challenges if you are struggling to gold running legit.

The corners are pretty much the same ones people cut on GT4 on Mission 34 or whatever the mission was called which was impossible to gold w/o cutting the corners. You can find a vid on youtube that shows which parts to cut.

For the Alfa on Eiger, the tip I car share is always keep traction, don't try to powerover on any of the turns.

Last tip I have for all the events if you have the GT Force Wheel (the official one), is that once the race begins, use that button located on the red turn dial to adjust settings you cannot adjust anywhere else i.e. awd power settings, brake bias, tcs, ams, ect. I found the Nascar event impossible until I realized you could turn off the ASM setting through this method and after that, the event became a joke. Not sure for DS3 players, might be SOL on this tip.

If you might need any other advice, let me know and I will be happy to help. FYI I did gold everything, just waiting for the Forum la 1 car to show up so I can reach level 30 and gold that challenge, will be fun.
 
Hi everyone! I've a little question, I got gold in all Beginner and Intermediate challenges and i'd like to know if Advanced is going to be easier or harder. I found the Beginner challenges much harder than the Intermediate ones so i'm curious :dopey:

Some are going to be harder, some of them will be much easier imo. AMG was much easier on advanced, same with the top gear event (racing those VW buses were a joke and what a waste of resource to make it a premium). Found it much easier racing Elise adjusting the setting through the red button on the wheel than the VW.

I think the rally ones might have been harder on advance, but I don't remember struggling it through the rally's too much. Esp when you adjust the AWD split.
 
My credentials- lvl 22, golded every special event except AMG lvl 24

First off, a big tip is to use a steering wheel of course. May not make you faster, but it makes things way easier. Also it should be common knowledge to turn all aids off because there are situations were you need the car to slide and rotate to achieve higher times or faster exits. ABS 1 if you must, but I usually just keep it off.

The Eiger trial with the pos alfa is a bit difficult. I find that not alot of time can be made up in the esses, but actually in the last sequence of turns. Make sure to brake late and slide a bit of speed off to set up for the second apex on that last turn, some of you may find that second your looking for.

I find the begginer AMG series to be the hardest. You really gotta find every bit of time, and a good line is important since the car doesnt have alot of power, you cant afford to scrub off any speed.

Good luck, ill provide more tips later on!
 
Some are going to be harder, some of them will be much easier imo. AMG was much easier on advanced, same with the top gear event (racing those VW buses were a joke and what a waste of resource to make it a premium). Found it much easier racing Elise adjusting the setting through the red button on the wheel than the VW.

I think the rally ones might have been harder on advance, but I don't remember struggling it through the rally's too much. Esp when you adjust the AWD split.

I forgot to specify that i was talking about the AMG challenges, and as i thought the advanced is easier than the Beginner(the Intermediate is also easier than the Beginner) Thank you very much for your reply!
 
Yes, they definitely get easier, Inter is easier than Beginner and advanced easier again. Certainly in terms of how long it took me to achieve Golds. How much of that is down to a better knowledge of the track is hard to say.

Haven't got the level for Expert yet but given it's same again in the dark I don't see why not unless they decrease the time too but I certainly hope not.
 
So over the weekend I golded about all the special events bar 2, the Intermediate AMG Full lap and the Alfa around Eiger.....For the life of me I can't find that 2.5 sec around Nordschleife, despite golding the 4 intermediate sector all in one go.....The the Eiger is just a b*tch....that car is much more annoying to drive than even the Top Gear Elise...

I did the Loeb events after I did the GT Rallies and the Loeb events are easier due to the fact that you can learn the track. And the GT Rallies being random demands you to learn how to drive the car....so much less error when I move on to Loeb stuff...

I have to say, the pace notes sucks for the GT Rally. Nothing like RBR or Colin McRae stuff since they don't convey the corner in detail in terms of stringing corners together and details about jump and connecting corners....
 
So over the weekend I golded about all the special events bar 2, the Intermediate AMG Full lap and the Alfa around Eiger.....For the life of me I can't find that 2.5 sec around Nordschleife, despite golding the 4 intermediate sector all in one go.....The the Eiger is just a b*tch....that car is much more annoying to drive than even the Top Gear Elise...

I've been through exactly the same thing lately. You dont want to know how long it took me to Gold them both, seriously, ask GF.

Anyway I have demos for both with me scraping the time needed both times if you want them. Hardly a master class I know but easier to see on a replay using view of your choice than a YouTube video.

I had Eiger down to 0.2xx and found the last bit using the handbrake very gently to get the back end to slide a little in the hairpin section. Most useful on the last bend of the hairpins (downhill into the straight the bridge is on) and the very last corner if you get a little flat.

On the AMG I went back to the 4 sections and made sure I could still Gold them (or within half a second) then jumped straight onto the full lap.

Sender your email if you want a look at my rough demos.
 
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I suppose I am just echoing earlier posts; I have golded all Special events except Eiger and the AMG Academy and pitched up camp at the ring yesterday. I am staying until all gold, or xmas :lol: . If I need a break there is a 4hour endurance at Tsukuba to do.

First pass I silvered everything very quickly and nearly golded a couple of expert level events first time including the full lap. Then I golded all beginner and all intermediate excepting the latter's full lap which is a real pain; so close so many times. I have not used TCS 0 so will now switch it off completely after reading this thread.

Observations: Beginner section golds were hard, full lap not so. Intermediate sections were relatively easy, but the full lap is so much harder. In the wet; expert seemed easier than advanced but early days there as I really want to gold all the dry events before moving onto the wet ones. And in there somewhere there is the GTR 07 trophy to do.
 
Getting gold on the Top Gear Lotus Elise challenge may be the most challenging thing I've experienced in my 12 years of being a gamer. It's absolutely insane, took me probably 300 tries or so (DFGT wheel, driving aids off except ABS set to 1). So much sensitivity required in steering, accelerating and even braking, it's ridiculous. Being DQ'd for other cars bumping into me pissed me off a great deal, but otherwise I really liked the challenge and have had much use of it as a driving exercise, like the Nürburgring Mercedes challenges.

As for that Italy tour challenge, it's funny how some of those challenges are so infinitely harder than others. The Alfa C8 one on Eiger Nordwand was pretty darn tough (great as an exercise in cornering technique), and the Murciélago at night one nearly had me throw my wheel out the window (hated this challenge and found no enjoyment in it; both the car and the idea of having to drive that insanely fast when you can't see squat), while the Monza and Rome challenges were absolute jokes.
 
BTW, the RA Menu brake bias adjustment is life-saver especially for the wet races....I usually run F3:R2 in those races(4:2 in dry SL, and 5:3 or 6:3 on the slick-shod SLS). the wet was interesting in that I usually do one run to see how much grip there is and the 2nd lap you can lean on them and you can usually beat gold by some margin....If I had figure that out when I did the Elise thing it might have been way easier...
 
Here is a little nugget I found the the other day while watching some Skip Barber videos on youtube the other, for those of you guys struggling with the AMG challenges in the wet.

Basically for running in the rain you should dial the brake bias towards the rear to maintain braking balance similar to what you would have in the dry. The reasoning being the levels of grip available to your tires in the wet is much less (50% or more) than the dry, so when you jump on the brakes there is not as much weight transfer from the rear to the front due to the lack of grip up front. By dialing the balance to the rear you keep from overpowering the front tires and causing lockup. You end up with better wet performance overall and the extra rear bias helps the car rotate a bit better which I found helps out a ton in a couple of the slow speed corners. I was able to blaze through all 5 of the Expert AMG events with gold in about an hour after making that change. Had I known when I was doing the wet challenge in the old car it would have been much easier.

I was running the brakes @ 5f/8r FWIW, although I prefer a loose setup car and normally run rear bias anyway, so you may find 8 a bit much. Either way, set it a bit higher than the front and the difference will be noticeable.
 
I have to say, the pace notes sucks for the GT Rally. Nothing like RBR or Colin McRae stuff since they don't convey the corner in detail in terms of stringing corners together and details about jump and connecting corners....

HAHA, Word. Thats the only part that makes the rally special so frustrating, I always rely on the red gear notes to gauge when to brake or what gear, but half the time the game forgets to load the note and all of the sudden you'll get the blinking red gear note as if to say "OH ****, you were supposed to start braking back there!" Thanks, too late for that! But you're right, you jsut need to learn how to visualize the speed each turn needs to be taken and imporvize the cars angle and approach.

I find it pretty interesting people have trouble with the full nordschleife lap considering it seemed to me to be the easiest. It seems they give you a bit more time and, correct me if I'm wrong, but it also seems that you will naturally start each section at a higher speed than what the game will set you off when you do the seperate 4 sections. A few tips I can give; I'll try to be a bit brief.

First all aids off, ABS 1 if you like, but since I always set it at 0 I'm not sure whats the difference, if any at all in terms of finding time. Also you want to aim to psuh the car to a limit to were it slides very slightly on all high and mid speed corners. According to the APEX book you get with the Collectors Edition, the tires will achieve the most grip when they jsut start to slip(they call it 15% tire slip percentage) so its safe to say they applied this physic to the game. You might try to push too hard by encouraging the car to almost a shallow drift, but this will slow you down. You should have learned the track from the first 4 devided sections, so you should know the speed it takes to to just get the car to twitch, if not at least squeal them tires.

Sector 1, I dont have many tips. I always found this to be the easiest and troublefree section; I golded it in begginer on 3rd try, 1st clean run. So I guess just push hard, especially in the esses(Hocheichen) and Flugplatz(300 SL I think is flat out, SLS you need a bit of brake and lift off). However take you time and save your chances for the last hairpin(Aremberg) and brake early/dont late brake. Its a very slow turn and you'll be going balls out fast, on top of that its very off camber and taking it just a hair past peak limit sends you sideways and you might as well start over again. Take that one easy.

Sector 2 is my favorite, as there are a few key turns that I find make a difference in finding time. Fuchsrohre and Adenauer Forst you should have down form the sector specific trial, considering them to be the first complex of turns you'll have taken them every frustrating restart(:P). I find the key turn in this section to be the lowspeed haripin(Kallenhard) after the tight left then right(Metzgesfeld). This turn you have to hit your braking point as late as possible but slow down enough to were you dont spin out. Its off camber, so whats important is that you go the perfect speed with barely any trail braking, and the off camber of the turn will pull your back end out. You'll essentially be doing an extremely mild drift without any input from throttle or brake. Its hard to achieve this since as I said, take it a hair too fast and you'll spin out, do it too slow and you might lose a few tenths, do it just right and you can [gradually] punch it out to the exit curb with great exit speed(I typically found a whole second with the 300 SL). Its a very delicate feel, as there is no input, just correct speed and letting the off-banking of the turn do the rest. Wherseifen should be pretty self explanitory, late brake as much as possible but make sure you can cut enough speed out to hit that tight left minihairpin without any slipping. Last key turn, is to hit the some-what blind left hander(Breidscheid) after Wherseifen with some late braking and good speed. This turn is a good expamle of how you need to throw the car in a very shallow and brief slide into the apex and then catch it with a bit throttle to blast out of exit to find some time. Take Bergwerk with some patience and trail braking. It seems to tighten up at the end so you need to be patient as save your line for a late late apex.

Sector 3 is my least favorite, as for some reason the second half is always very vague to me; I dont have it all memorized. First half is simple flat out, Karussel shouldnt be too hard to maximize grip and time(as I'm sure its everyones favorite part), and the rest is just semi-blind left left right right complexes. Its all rythem and late braking really, just watch out for the off camber turns towards teh end of the section.

Sector 4 is also my most favorite, I find it very easy to run it consistant before the straight as I always pass the flag marker as the straight starts within tenths of a second no matter how extremely good or bad I felt I did. Trying to keep it brief(ha), there shouldnt be any mystery as to how to take this section. Pflanzgarten I braking points are very specific to each car and you want to have the speed that carries you out a bit after you brake for the right hander. Of course Pflanzgarten II is completely flat out easily(SLS might need a small bit of lift off in the beggining just so you dont undo your entire lap, you wont lose a tenth if that). Try to use the camber of the Karussel wannabe turn(Schwalbenschwanz) to sling your car through to hold alot of speed. Basic racing theory states the corner before the longest strait is most import in find good lap time, so this(Dottinger Hohe) is the only key turn of section 4. Basically, why this turn is so important, is on the strait you'll be going flat out red lining in top gear, covering the most ground at the fastest rate possible(because you wont be braking for turns in s straight, duh). This makes the exit of the corner before the straight more important than any turn on the course because, basically the higher revs you hold through that turn, the higher exit speed you'll acheive. The higher exit speed the sooner you hit top speed. The sooner you hit top speed the more ground you can cover AT top speed. The more ground you cover at top speed the faster the lap time you can achieve. To put it simple, you can efficiently increase your average speed of the entire lap in this one corner, and that directly effects lap time. So basically you must have that last turn(Dottinger Hohe) down extremely well, which isnt easy as it is off camber. You have to apporach with a small period of lift off, but when you get back on the throttle is crucial so as to keep the highest revs possible for the best exit speed. Seconds can be found here, so long as your late braking is good and consistant as you deal with Teirgarten through Hohenrain-Schikane.

I wish I had some sector times to help give a sort of marker for people track themselve to see if they are making good progress, but I think I only saved one replay if any. I think I said I was gunna make this breif, but it looks like I failed. Basically keep these key turns in mind while trying to hold the car to the limits on high and mid speed turns: careful for Aremberg, concentrate on speed and braking for Fuchsrohre through Adenauer Forst, take Kallenhard at PERFECT speed and entry(with light and early trail braking as to not spin out), rip through Breidscheid, late late apex for Bergwerk, dont overshoot Karussel, capitolize your speed on Dottinger Hohe, and dont fnck up you're almost done! By far the most fun track of GT5.

As for wet weather and time change, these are actually easy due to the fact you'll already be doubting yourself because you might be dreading the wet road difficulty. Dont udnerestimate, as PD actually gave you plenty of fnck up room with gold times. I did my 300 SL expert with 19 seconds left exactly, which should be enough time for me to have spun out once or twice and still get gold. What really makes rain so easy is once you get used to the new racing line gold times are easily destroyed. The examples should tell you that you need to stay off the "polished" racing line since there is very little to no grip. You basically jsut need to do your braking off line, slide through the polished dry racing line, and catch your grip off line again and put the hammer down. Off camber turns you should do your braking on the inside pointing to the outside of turn in, and take it wide. On camber turns you can actually afford to take the dry line cause the banking will restore grip. Its merely a matter of "searching" for grip as you will be able to see the dry line as a lighter shade of grey and the off line grippier part of track will be darker.

Have fun!

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^Thanks for the tip!

The grand tour was cake except for the 8C (left on bronze for now) and the night run (turned brightness, gamma, and contrast to max, and it was still really hard, took me 3 hours to get gold. The SLS AMG in the rain makes me want to kick a game designer in the lungs.
 
Here is a little nugget I found the the other day while watching some Skip Barber videos on youtube the other, for those of you guys struggling with the AMG challenges in the wet.

Basically for running in the rain you should dial the brake bias towards the rear to maintain braking balance similar to what you would have in the dry. The reasoning being the levels of grip available to your tires in the wet is much less (50% or more) than the dry, so when you jump on the brakes there is not as much weight transfer from the rear to the front due to the lack of grip up front. By dialing the balance to the rear you keep from overpowering the front tires and causing lockup. You end up with better wet performance overall and the extra rear bias helps the car rotate a bit better which I found helps out a ton in a couple of the slow speed corners. I was able to blaze through all 5 of the Expert AMG events with gold in about an hour after making that change. Had I known when I was doing the wet challenge in the old car it would have been much easier.

I was running the brakes @ 5f/8r FWIW, although I prefer a loose setup car and normally run rear bias anyway, so you may find 8 a bit much. Either way, set it a bit higher than the front and the difference will be noticeable.

I had no idea you could change brake bias! Those numbers do seem high, but to each his own. I'd still recomend not messing with them, but thats only because I've gotten so used to default set up. With ABS at 0, I like to setup my brakes at 4F/4R so as to utilize more peddal travel on my wheel before lockup, but the 5/5 I just have to be super sensative with the brakes, but after 20 mins I find a rythem.
 
I was running the brakes @ 5f/8r FWIW, although I prefer a loose setup car and normally run rear bias anyway, so you may find 8 a bit much. Either way, set it a bit higher than the front and the difference will be noticeable.

Could someone just clarify this for me, I had assumed the brake balance to be % of sorts, with 5F 5R being split evenly 4 6 being slightly rear biased.
Obviously you can adjust these independently, so am I right in thinking 2 2 or 10 10 would have the same balance with just sharper or softer take?

I have the DFGT wheel, and feel that the brake generally is a little sharp, very hard to just put a tiny bit of brake on to shift the weight in a turn or slide a touch, and ABS set to 0 just skids as soon as you touch it.

Cheers

**Edit** redcouch1212 Answered my question whilst I was typing it, any extra info appreciated though.
 
For those of you that think that any of the early challenges are hard wait until you see the X1 challenge :) the rest are easy.


Edit: The DFGT brake is very soft. I use the PWTS now and it has a very stiff spring behind the brake which feels much more like what you would get in a real car. You can even leave your foot on it if you want as it requires a bit of pressure to do anything and once you get used to it you can regulate the brake by the amount of pressure you use much like a real car.
 
I use a Driving Force Pro(the old GT4 wheel I believe). I get lockup with 4/4 at about 85% brake. Anyone notice when you first turn on your PS3 and go into your first turn 5% brake pedal is 100% brake, causing you to lockup and spin out? Then it seems to calibrate as I run the brake pedal fully up and down and I have to restart. That **** pisses me off.
 
I hate the feel of these brake pedals and the springs. I was thinking of rigging up sort of master cylider from a car to recreate the firm feel of hydraulic pressure, but I doubt that project would come out anything clsoe to what I want it to be.
 
I hate the feel of these brake pedals and the springs. I was thinking of rigging up sort of master cylider from a car to recreate the firm feel of hydraulic pressure, but I doubt that project would come out anything clsoe to what I want it to be.
The standard pedals on the PWTS and PWGT3 feel good. Throttle is soft. Brake is stiff at the top and stiffer down to about 1/2 where it stops. Clutch is stiff at the top and soft at the bottom. These feel more like a real car than any I have used so far.

The DFGT brake is not much different in feel than the throttle. Just by letting your foot tounch the pedal you will get 5-10% brake. On the PW pedals you get no brake from resting your foot on the pedal.
 
I hate the feel of these brake pedals and the springs. I was thinking of rigging up sort of master cylider from a car to recreate the firm feel of hydraulic pressure, but I doubt that project would come out anything clsoe to what I want it to be.

Might be better off to get a pedal set made with a strain gauge brake pedal. More realsitic in terms of feel since real brake pedals would have very little travel when not vacuum assisted...
 

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