"sphinx deserved everything he got"

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people like you thuggles that drive like that deserve to be put on the blacklist..

you obviously cant stand being passed by a better driver so you feel that it is your right to block like that and ram like you have.

then to come one here and moan about it is just plainly stupid and really does prove that this kind of driving is your norm.

hope to not see you in a server.

you are exactly the driver that people dont want on a server.

rant over

woosahhh i must remember the pressure points lol

darren
 
lvlaxsurferben
I would like to hear thuggles reaction to sphinx new post, before making a judgement. So.....
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To be honest my friend, I don't think you need anything more to make a judgement. I mean, what can Thuggles add to this that will help you make a judgement in his favour? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
I cant think of any online races I've been in where there weren't at least a couple of drivers like this (usually a lot more) The problem I have is recognising which one it is, coming screaming up in my mirror when I'm trying to set up for a corner. Is it a good driver trying to outbrake me or an idiot trying to ram me off the road.

I brake hard and early on hairpins, so if I get hit I don't go into the gravel. Unfortunately this means if it's a decent player behind me I'll either get overtaken or they'll crash into me when I stop too early. It works out if the corner is crowded tho, cos most of the cars turn into ghosts or smudges on the tirewall and I can just coast through.

What I really hate is being penalised for being rammed. Being rammed is penalty enough but then you pick up a shortcut penalty cos your car was pushed offline or (even worse) you get the collsion penalty when someone t-bones you (what the hell is that all about?)

Then, just when you've managed to claw your way back to the top 3 or 4, the host quits.

Unnnnnnnnnggggggggghhhhhhhhh!

But yeah - in my experience thuggles and his ilk seem to the the rule rather than the exception.
 
Thuggles
I don't like ruining people's games but if they make an attempt to ruin mine then i am willing to give up a podium finish to ensure they end up in the sand.

i just want to point out that sphinx deserved everything he got. He took me out many times before and during the heavily edited races he's posted.
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Well, the not-even-slightly edited race shows Sphinx binning it all by himself on lap 1 and, somehow in a slower car, catching you up at the line to start lap 2. And then it shows you sideswiping and ramming him persistantly from then on.

So, I see no attempt in that race from Sphinx to ruin your race. But quite a few attempts from you to "ensure" than Sphinx ended up "in the sand" - which, I might add, you also suck at. Not to mention straightlining Casio to try to gain 2 places (and failing into a tyre barrier).


But a further question emerges. Why try to ruin someone else's race at all? You wouldn't believe the number of times I've won races in a slower car simply because all the other racers start carrying out revenge attacks on each other, slowing themselves down massively and allowing me to carve clean through the carnage. And even if I placed behind a couple of cheats who fluke their way to the front, how much prize money do I miss out on? Not even enough to buy an ECU upgrade in GT4.


Grow up, man up and shut up. Online Racing, not Online Toy-throwing.
 
mah thuggles your driving really need some polishing you know in f1 there is a rule, you can change the lane 1 time, but after that you can't just change the lane a second time just to block you opponent obviously you opponent was better so you better just let him pass. If I were you I would be so ashamed of driving so recklessly. Thuggles you have to know that there are many bad drivers and because someone puts you out, just doesn't mean that you have the right to do so too.

Last night for example I was driving on pp700 suzuka and high speed ring with a 650p nsx-r I know I would end last because of the top speed but I honestly didn't care I just wanted to have a nice drive but then somebody bumped me in the first corner and I spun off. You probably would have tried going reverse and ramming every other guy, or plainly just quitting the race. But I knew I was the host (have a good inet connection) so I completed the first race and waited in the pits for the race to complete.

I think if you want to be a part of the GTP community you should stop acting like a fool. with the GTP_nick you represent the gtp community and so your driving needs to represent the gtp obliviously that's not the case with your driving style. It's not a right of being a member of GTP, it's a privilege!
 
In this case I will give Sphinx the benefit of doubt. However..However we don't quite know what happen in a previous races. Maybe Sphinx cut him off in some race last week and he was still bitter about it. lol Clear case of classic Johhny_Moron! Case Closed!
 
Looks like thuggles has run off to hide in the cupboard now that 100% unedited proof has been shown that he's the one at fault!
 
Im keeping an open mind on this and not willing to condemn thuggles just yet.

I find this sentence interesting from him "Obviously i'm not going to deny what i did, i just want to let you know that Sphinx deserved everything her got and that i do not behave like that for fun".

There is no denying the driving in that video is truely shocking but I cannot help but ask myself what made thuggles drive like that. The videos posted only show thuggles trying to ram sphinx off the road but could it be that in previous races sphinx did the same to him which we haven't seen. This is why until I know the full facts I am keeping an open mind because from my conclusions of the video, this isn't a dirty racer but a seriously annoyed dirty racer who wants revenge on sphinx. Now I ask myself why does he want revenge unless sphinx provoked this is previous races!
 
II IVORBIGUN II
Now I ask myself why does he want revenge unless sphinx provoked this is previous races!
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Fair point! Some people however already feel provoked when they are being overtaken by a faster driver, so they think they have the right to defend their position with all necessary means.

I'd like to hear further thoughs from Thuggles on this matter.
 
I highly doubt that sphinx has ever done anything to provoke him. Thuggles probably just got provoked by the fact that sphinx overtook him so many times in an underpowered car :)
 
II IVORBIGUN II
Im keeping an open mind on this and not willing to condemn thuggles just yet.

I find this sentence interesting from him "Obviously i'm not going to deny what i did, i just want to let you know that Sphinx deserved everything her got and that i do not behave like that for fun".

There is no denying the driving in that video is truely shocking but I cannot help but ask myself what made thuggles drive like that. The videos posted only show thuggles trying to ram sphinx off the road but could it be that in previous races sphinx did the same to him which we haven't seen. This is why until I know the full facts I am keeping an open mind because from my conclusions of the video, this isn't a dirty racer but a seriously annoyed dirty racer who wants revenge on sphinx. Now I ask myself why does he want revenge unless sphinx provoked this is previous races!
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Unless Sphinx posts up every video from every online race he's ever participated in - and it'll be very, very many - I can't see how he can prove that he's never had a coming-together with Thuggles before.

But we can see that Thuggles somehow lost 15s between Sphinx's off at turn 1 and the end of the lap, and that he was going very slowly on the pit straight (both of which indicate more than one incident involving loss of control or penalty), and that at no point in that race had Sphinx interacted with him until then.


Now, Thuggles stated "I don't like ruining people's games but if they make an attempt to ruin mine then i am willing to give up a podium finish to ensure they end up in the sand". I didn't see any attempt to ruin Thuggles' race from Sphinx, yet Thuggles still was willing to "give up a podium finish" (running 5th at the time) to try to ensure Sphinx ended up "in the sand". We also see the claim that Sphinx took him out "during the heavily edited races he's posted". Did you see that on the uncut version?


I reckon we've got a dirty driver surprised to see his antics captured on film, trying to justify his behaviour by inventing previous comings-together. And the onus is then on Thuggles to prove than Sphinx has taken him out before, not Sphinx to prove he hasn't.
 
the big over-riding facts of that statement is that.

1) Sphinx has had nothing but praise from everyone who has raced with him.
2) I believe if Sphinx had in fact dealt him a blow before would have acknowledged that fact.

these two reason are why i have come the conclusion that thuggles was in the wrong.amongst having a look at the clear evidence of the youtube video

i have not been racing that long but i do not smash into people to get them out of the way and if i am going to try and block only move once.. much like F1. as i think it is unfair.. if the person behind you is quicker why try and block them and ram them.. it is stupid you would want it to happen..

darren
 
the Interceptor
Fair point! Some people however already feel provoked when they are being overtaken by a faster driver, so they think they have the right to defend their position with all necessary means.

I'd like to hear further thoughs from Thuggles on this matter.
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Indeed because I have been run off the road many times just for simply trying to overtake. However the way thuggles approaches the last chicane on the 2nd lap is someone seriously annoyed and this is why I want to know from thuggles why he was annoyed at sphinx. It could be like you say that he was annoyed for being overtaken but I personally feel there is more to it than that.
 
II IVORBIGUN II
However the way thuggles approaches the last chicane on the 2nd lap is someone seriously annoyed
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Given his lack of pace on the pit straight at the start of lap 2, I'd speculate that he successfully managed to cut it on lap 1, but got a Short-Cut penalty (speed limiter) and wasn't able to make "usual" progress down the straight, which allowed Sphinx to catch him in the first place.

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and this is why I want to know from thuggles why he was annoyed at sphinx. It could be like you say that he was annoyed for being overtaken but I personally feel there is more to it than that.
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Well, we've already heard him claim that Sphinx took him out "during the heavily edited races he posted" and viewed the uncut version which shows nothing of the sort.

So I'd wager he's not an angry driver, just a dirty one. But he's angry at being caught out and is making stories up to justify his actions. And failing.
 
Famine


So I'd wager he's not an angry driver, just a dirty one.
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Well if you're right then I certainly hope I don't race against thuggles. I would still like to hear from him but the longer he doesn't reply to this thread the more guilty he becomes.
 
II IVORBIGUN II
Well if you're right then I certainly hope I don't race against thuggles. I would still like to hear from him but the longer he doesn't reply to this thread the more guilty he becomes.
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the guilt is evident mate he came on here to stir it up.. and did the wrong thing in having a go at an experienced player and thinking he wont have the evidence..

i would say lesson learnt.. drive properly and stop smashing into people on purpose.

darren
 
Driving aside I can't believe that Thuggles first post is to claim that Sphinx deserves everything he got. He's picking a fight in his first thread. We don't need those kind here at gtplanet.

I know that Sphinx is going to be online racing and doing his best at driving a clean race. With all he has done with the WRS and the new GTP_ registration and event why would he tarnish any of that with driving any other way.

As for Thuggles, what does he have to lose? He is not known in this community of racers, at least not as Thuggles, or a clean racer

As for racing him on line if you see his and my name at the beginning of a race, and I have the chance to back out, I will take the oppotunity to do so.

I'm waiting for a response from Thuggles in the form of an apology to Sphinx and the gtplanet community.
 
Famine
Given his lack of pace on the pit straight at the start of lap 2, I'd speculate that he successfully managed to cut it on lap 1, but got a Short-Cut penalty (speed limiter) and wasn't able to make "usual" progress down the straight, which allowed Sphinx to catch him in the first place.
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He does, he posts often here and mentions that cut across in detail: http://community.eu.playstation.com...thread.id=33957&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

BUT from what little I know of the guy, he's never down and dirtied it before, could of just been having a bad night... /shrug
 
Man - That is sooooo embarrassing - Sphinx uses the racing line.. Bummer dude !.... ;-)
 
dear thuggles,
i welcome you to join me at the high speed ring in your F2007. I will happily race you but please be aware last time i looked i was under a second from the rank No.1. If you are a good and fair racer then this wont be a problem to you and i would frnakly love to race you! Again if you are a seasoned GT player surely you will have the F1 buy now. Please please please come and join me :)
 
Wow - some people take this too seriously - its just a game.

I can understand why people get fed up being rammed of a track in a race you are trying to win but come on, its online with people all over the world - you are not going to be able to moderate everyone or ever resolve the issue of people ramming you off the track.

It will happen from time to time, take it on the chin and get on with the next race.
 
Sphinx
Ladies and Gentlemen. Allow me to introduce to you, Thuggles
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You got him good!
Thanks for video to back everything up and straighten things out.

When he said that Sphinx deserved everything he got, really makes no sence to me...
Sphinx is a SUPER MODERATOR, meaning he needs to be extra cautious online, because he knows a lot of people from the forums know him and respect him as well, and basically its his job to be a good decent driver, and so should we all be.
 
Well flaming him is just going to scare him away. I think its good that we get a debate with people trying to ram others of the track and reason why its a bad idea. In my opinion it could be because they see others do it and therefore pick up the habit. Its an immature reaction, but then again there is probably a lot of adolescent people in here.

Cons
 
The whole blacklist idea, its pretty weak. I mean doesnt anyone have anything better to do then to BLACK LIST PEOPLE i mean get real.
 
59 posts since we've heard from Thuggles, he's changed his name by now. Stay away from here and go play with your matchbx cars!

Jerome
 
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