Yeah I know, so? What does that have to do with what I asked? You're free to do as you please.
You asked "I really don't understand why some of you are in this thread..?" I gave you an answer. And you're right, I am free to do as I please, same as you, and that includes calling out poor information and obvious attempts to control a narrative.
Have you tried reporting the thread? Or asking a mod to move the conversation to that other thread? Would that not be more effective than posting your feelings about another member of GTP?
Why do I need to do such things in the first place? Especially if the poster is someone who has been here longer than I and has been active enough to know the proper etiquette? It's really not that hard to see what they were trying to do.
GTP is full with people I disagree with, yet I have not put them on my ignore list. I've put 2 members on my ignore list because all they do in a conversation is throw insults and derail interesting discussions.
And it's within your right to do so, just as it's within my right to generally not put people on my ignore list.
And it's now your mission to tear down his "safe space" wall?
Not really, I just feel like calling out the hypocrisy in banging on about finding the "truth" and fighting logical fallacies, while simultaneously using bad, heavily-biased information as evidence and muting out anybody who questions these sources or doesn't share a similar viewpoint.
I will stick to just ignoring. Less effort on my part.
Fair enough.
Yeah I know how you guys feel about people like
@GTP Red Pill . But what are you trying to achieve by engaging in a conversation with somebody you believe who can't have a "faithful discussion"or who has "no interest in an actual discussion" and who "tends to resort to childish responses.." ? You seem to already know the outcome but will try anyway in hopes of a different response?
Generally speaking, yes, I typically know what to expect from each member who is a regular in this sub-forum. Doesn't mean I won't be willing to call out bad information when it pops up (though I typically tend to get beaten to that point anyways).
I'm sure we have mods to deal with those issues.
If you're hanging out at a friends house, and someone decides to take a piss inside the communal salsa bowl, are you just gonna sit there and ignore it until your buddy has a chance to handle it? Even if there's other people who have never had salsa before, and didn't know that the concoction of spices and processed vegetables isn't supposed to have an orange-ish hue? Or would you rather call the pissant out, so that anyone paying attention knows what's up?*
It's the same idea here. To echo what
@Roo said earlier, calling out bad information for what it is and explaining why that's the case is not just an effort to communicate to the poster, but also an effort any random person who may come across these threads that, no, this information is outdated/incorrect/dangerous/whatehaveyou (I believe this subject has also been talked about in the COVID thread). I don't know if you've ever taken a look at the stats on the front page of the forum, but generally speaking the guests outnumber the actual members by a typically substantial margin. Considering that, as previously mentioned, you only have to be 13 to be a member of this site, I think it's important to call out bad information for what it is so that people don't get themselves into dangerous situations, especially since the mods have an entire website to keep tabs on, rather than just this tiny little corner. If the past year has proven anything, it's that bad information that gets left unchecked can have literally fatal consequences.
Plus, doing so keeps the quality of discussion high. It's why this site is a much more pleasant place to talk than Reddit, despite having a much less active userbase overall.
*Weird allegory, I know.
I'm not defending anyone here.
I mean, you kinda are.
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Aaaannnywhoozle...
...has nothing to do with CCN being "exposed."
I actually did watch the first 2 videos in the old thread (which was about all I could take), and to me it exposed nothing. I'm pretty sure it's been well-established that CNN tends to be a left-leaning news outlet that occasionally has a bad time with fact-checking (they personally lost me when one of their pundits claimed that
most Americans can easily buy an automatic firearm). Not to mention the fact that CNN was regularly crapped on by the Trump administration as being "fake news." The useage/creation of propaganda is nothing new, definitely nothing unique to CNN, and it's no surprise they would be biased against Trump. That's not some big reveal, it's basic common sense. I'm pretty confident in saying that almost every major news outlet that has ever existed since the invention of the printing press has used propaganda tactics in one way or another. If you're looking for a highly egregious, contemporary user of such tactics, Fox News would be a good place to investigate....
...though I doubt the Project Veritas team will ever do such a thing, considering that one of the more recent videos on their channel is a clip from Fox News where their founder was on their broadcast talking about their efforts to "Expose CNN." Veritas has a blindingly obvious agenda, to the point that anything they say can be easily categorized as horse manure. See
@Danoff 's article for further.
Also, big LOL at the ACORN employee busting O'Keefe and getting him to pay a $100,000 in "nuisance damages" for illegally recording him. Dude's my freakin' hero.