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SRT TOMAHAWK VISION GT OT (Now available)
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The S Version Reminds Me Of a Hennessy Venom GT Right?
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It is the closes SRT to the Venom in looks and performance I think.
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I did not see 'moving' rear wing...well explained.
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A surprising apt comparison, the Venom makes 1244 horses and weighs the same as its HP number.
The Tomahawk S weighs a little over 900kg, but has just over a thousand horses.
So it's down by roughly 200hp, but it's also down by over 300kg in comparison to the Venom.
Both can do 250 mph ( little bit more in the Venom's case ) and both are "street legal" ( the S isn't real, but is imagined as one, hence the quotations ).
Still, it's quite remarkable how different they look and what they use for their power and yet come to roughly the same conclusion, a very scary looking power to weight ratio.
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- sparkytooth50001
The Tomahawk S looks like your average hypercar. They should make it for real, although I doubt they can justify such a machine as easily as they can in polygons.
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It would be possible for SRT to do that, since the power achieved by the V10/hybrid engines combo is possible to attain without going too far. Of course, the weight would have to either be meticulously controled or raised, and that would be the hardest goal to achieve with the S.
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Yes. The power output of the S is fairly realistic. Achieving 792 horsepower from a 7 liter V10 should be easy. I don't know how feasible the pneumatic drive for the front wheels would be, but it could be substituted for electric motors. Getting the mass down to just 2000 pounds with something like the Tomahawk is another story. With the hybrid drive on board, they could probably still get it below 3000 pounds dry. The McLaren P1 weighs around 2750 I think. 2000 seems like a stretch though. At the least, they could increase the power to compensate for higher mass. As for the GTS-R and X models, that's a completely different story. At the least, they could probably make the g-suit.
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The GTS-R could be somewhat likely, would just be a matter of what sort of tuning would have to be done to achieve such power input. The weight savings and light weight material (as well as the aerodynamic work, which looks to already barrow quite abit from P1 cars) is quite doable I would think.
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Besides, this is the closest I've ever got to seeing an American hypercar from one of the big three.
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I just can't resist that suit.... 
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Can Mclaren Sue SRT cause of the front of the SRT vision gt car looks like the mclaren p1?? Hope it doesn't come to that and this VGT has to be cancelled before releasing 
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What about the new Ford GT?
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Can Mclaren Sue SRT cause of the front of the SRT vision gt car looks like the mclaren p1?? Hope it doesn't come to that and this VGT has to be cancelled before releasing
I wouldn't think so, after all the SRT's only exist in the designers sketch books at the moment and in the our future garages when GT6 gets updated.
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Can Mclaren Sue SRT cause of the front of the SRT vision gt car looks like the mclaren p1?? Hope it doesn't come to that and this VGT has to be cancelled before releasing
That wouldn't even come close to making sense. Hell no they can't, one car exists and the other doesn't.
Also I don't see it. Having vents coming from underneath some narrow Headlights does not automatically make it a dead ringer for a McLaren P1.
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Have more GIFs:
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Speaking of this car, does anyone have any guesses of when this car will come in update 1.20??
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I'm hoping it's June 18th! I cannot wait any longer!! XD
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I think that situation has been repeated enough to reveal a pattern.
The ending date of the Vision GT's super lap events anticipates the date of the next round of updates.
Ergo the next update will be on Monday June 29.
The ending date of the Vision GT's super lap events anticipates the date of the next round of updates.
Ergo the next update will be on Monday June 29.
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Oh yes, the S is plausible from a production car standpoint, the key problem is the weight. As you've said, the electric portion would probably have to rely on more conventional electric motors, which would raise the weight of the entire powertrain. In order to get at least 2700 pounds dry, SRT would need to use some lighter materials or other in order to keep the weight down. 2000 is a harder number to achieve.
But as RACECAR said, it would also be possible to create a racing version a la GTS-R, since racing technology can allow for lightweight bodies. It would all depend on what would SRT do to keep the weight down, and the specs that they would want to keep. It would be a LaFerrari FXXK and Mclaren P1 GTR rival, which seems plausible enough to do.
Of course, the X is pretty much sci-fi levels of car engineering, and would require hellacious amounts of work before it could be possible...
Yes, your view is valid. Most VGTs come after the other's seasonal ends, and a July date would be in line with the whole "summer" release date that the GT website claims. So, it's going to take a while before we can get our hands on the Tomahawk(s)...
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Well, think about this... The 1994 Dauer 962LM, a car roughly the same size as the Tomahawk (except with 2 seats) weighs about 1080kg and that is with a full leather interior and other somewhat luxurious items. It had a roughly stock Porsche 962C monocoque with carbon/kevlar body panels and a 3L, 730 hp Porche Type-935 engine. It also rode on height adjustable hydraulic suspension to be road legal.
Using modern technology, the Tomahawk's weight is entirely feasible from a production standpoint. Of course, from a cost standpoint that is another story...
Using modern technology, the Tomahawk's weight is entirely feasible from a production standpoint. Of course, from a cost standpoint that is another story...
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Quite, those numbers seem reasonable enough from a modern technology standpoint. But you have also brought another interesting point; cost. SRT isn't really a hypercar brand, they tune Dodge, Jeep and RAM cars. They aren't necessarily specialists at creating their own cars. Granted, we have the Viper, but even that was born as a Dodge and not a SRT. Therefore, the FCA group would really need to pull some strings to allow SRT to create a production version of the S...
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Vision GT. It's supposed to be about the future, which hasn't arrived yet, last I checked.
All engineering starts with an idea. Ideas are but imaginings, and as such are "make-believe" - just dissect that phrase for a second, separate any connotation you might personally want to attach to it and think about what it actually means.
Let's pretend it's the future now, and these promising technologies currently in the ideation phase have been sussed out and are usable in a low-volume racing product, what could we make with them?
Your opinion is your opinion, but it's evidently predicated on a false concept of what engineering actually is. Engineering and ingenuity, as well as genius, are effectively conceptually equivalent - and that equivalence stems from their shared etymological root of "generate; produce; birth; beget".
That need not only apply to physical things (cf. software engineering), and it certainly has never only applied to things that already exist. All engineering starts with an idea. It might be argued that that is all engineering really is: ideas; but skill and effort has to come into it somewhere.
The Nike One 2022 wasn't a VGT car, and its "unrealism" stems more from the fact a human doesn't have the power output to make that car move like it did in the game, rather than the fact that it doesn't exist yet. But the major difference is that there is no known feasible way to achieve that power output, ever (aside from storing up excess energy in a battery and deploying it later on, but the "charge" times would be excessive).
These VGT cars are, on the whole (excluding some minor details, like the power source for the 2X likely needing to be external), rooted in a reality that is simply yet to arrive, should the effort be expended in the necessary directions. Some of the numbers might have been inflated or deflated slightly, but in the real world that would simply equate to a more fragile and / or short-lived machine. Numbers are always revised as ideas mature into machines, anyway.
That rooting in reality actually needn't be a constraint in the context of "engineering", and I think that there is some merit in forgoing any "physical restriction" (insofar as we think we understand them) and allowing pure ideas to be tested out in a virtual reality. A new kind of engineering (or is it an old one; the same one that brought us video games in the first place?). But that doesn't apply here because these concepts were evidently created with an eye on future technology, which I would call a physical restriction.
To suggest, though, that the (e.g. mechanical) "engineers" involved saw the "specific purpose" as anything other than to design a car as befits their vision of a potential future is disingenuous, if not disrespectful. And that's even if and despite whether the overall aim was to engineer money into bank accounts.
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- sparkytooth50001
The Ford GT is likely not on the same level as today's hybrid supercars like this SRT is.
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- NaveekDarkroom
Not really. But it's the closest I could think of.
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The term for that is "science fiction." Not "engineering".
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The vid said something about 20-somethin entries for what would be the final car. It's probably a design sketch from one of the other 'prototypes' before finalizing the Tomahawk as it sits now.
Seems to me this is a possibility with all the vGT vehicles with 'teasers' so far on the list.
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