Standard Aero?

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I have noticed recently whilst making some time attack cars that the standard counterparts of some premiums did not have any front, rear or extra aero in GT Auto, only wings. Upon further investigation, I have not so far found a standard you can fit more than a wing to, so are there actually any out there?
 
hsv010
I have noticed recently whilst making some time attack cars that the standard counterparts of some premiums did not have any front, rear or extra aero in GT Auto, only wings. Upon further investigation, I have not so far found a standard you can fit more than a wing to, so are there actually any out there?

I believe the only way is to race mod the car.

Also on sone cars, you can put the little carbon fiber side defusers on the front bumper, which will affect the car's handling.
 
I have noticed recently whilst making some time attack cars that the standard counterparts of some premiums did not have any front, rear or extra aero in GT Auto, only wings. Upon further investigation, I have not so far found a standard you can fit more than a wing to, so are there actually any out there?

Standard cars usually only allow rear areo.
 
I believe the only way is to race mod the car.

Also on sone cars, you can put the little carbon fiber side defusers on the front bumper, which will affect the car's handling.

Wait, those actually do something?! I thought they were only cosmetic when it didn't show up in my car's aero settings!
 
CallmeDan
Wait, those actually do something?! I thought they were only cosmetic when it didn't show up in my car's aero settings!

Not adjustable, but yeah they affect the car's stability. Specially in turning.
 
I am asking about putting splitters, diffusers etc on a standard car, and you cannot RM a standard. I just found it odd that effectively the same car loses aero parts:)
 
Some front bumpers do too. I can't name any at this time but when a wing is installed in addition to the front bumper, additional 'fixed' downforce is shown in the Aero tuning menu, only to be removed when the front bumper is taken off.
 
hsv010
I am asking about putting splitters, diffusers etc on a standard car, and you cannot RM a standard. I just found it odd that effectively the same car loses aero parts:)

Oh ok. Sorry about that, I miss understood your question. Yeah, I don't think there is any standard cars that you can apply those parts. There are a few that you can adjust the front downforce on, but most of them (if not all of them), are either a concept car or some form of race car.
 
Some front bumpers do too. I can't name any at this time but when a wing is installed in addition to the front bumper, additional 'fixed' downforce is shown in the Aero tuning menu, only to be removed when the front bumper is taken off.

How do you put a front bumper on a car?
 
Some (not all) premium cars have an alternate bumper you can install by going into GT Auto. There, select the aero kits option and find one you like.

I'm well aware the Premium cars have the option,I have not ever seen it on a Standard car.
 
killerjimbag
How do you put a front bumper on a car?
Once some premiums you can, but not standards.
killerjimbag
Would you care to share what Standard car that would be?

You can't, like I said above, I miss understood his question.
 
killerjimbag
I could swear the thread said standard aero?

I miss understood the question Sorry. Let's move on shall we.

Anyway @OP

Yeah it's not possible to add front Aero to most standard cars. If you really want to, you could do it through hybriding (which I am pretty sure it is still possible). Just don't use them online in a lobby with people unaware of you having it done.
 
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Standards only have rear wings, but they are no different from premium. All upgrades except the rear wing are functionally worthless.


I believe the only way is to race mod the car.

Also on sone cars, you can put the little carbon fiber side defusers on the front bumper, which will affect the car's handling.

They're canards, in GT they do nothing.
 
It wouldn't be off topic spending a post showing why you think they have an effect is a source is available.
 
Exorcet
It wouldn't be off topic spending a post showing why you think they have an effect is a source is available.

It is one of those minor downforce effects that is barely noticed. But can be noticed. Many drifters have noticed that those little front splitters have affected the handling of their cars while drifting. It is a very small difference (specially on a DS3), but it is there and noticed greatly on a wheel.

It is noticeable on a car/setup with lower front end grip. Those splitters help the car gain front grip. It can also be too much. Hints why most drifters do not use them.
 
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It is one of those minor downforce effects that is barely noticed. But can be noticed. Many drifters have noticed that those little front splitters have affected the handling of their cars while drifting. It is a very small difference (specially on a DS3), but it is there and noticed greatly on a wheel.

It is noticeable on a car/setup with lower front end grip. Those splitters help the car gain front grip. It can also be too much. Hints why most drifters do not use them.

That sounds a bit placeebo-ish. I've been using them forever and I've never noticed such a big effect.

More telling, once you install aeroparts and look at the front aero, it's still always zero on the majority of cars.
 
Exorcet
That sounds a bit placeebo-ish. I've been using them forever and I've never noticed such a big effect.

More telling, once you install aeroparts and look at the front aero, it's still always zero on the majority of cars.

It's not adjustable, so no, you won't see a downforce increase. It's the some what same feeling of front end grip as it would be in real life. Can't believe you haven't noticed it honestly, I guess I just pay attention to small changes too much haha
 
That sounds a bit placeebo-ish. I've been using them forever and I've never noticed such a big effect.

More telling, once you install aeroparts and look at the front aero, it's still always zero on the majority of cars.

After a lot of tinkering since launch, I have to agree with Exorcet. Aside from installing a rear wing, the splitters, canards, and diffusers have no effect on a car's handling. They're purely aesthetic.

If they did contribute some amount of downforce, there should be a numerical value assigned to them -- at the very least, a +1 -- but there isn't. There are no differences in lap times or feel.

If someone thinks it does, however, then more power to them -- because it makes sense, dangit. You put them on thinking they should do something, because they should, but alas....
 
I am done debating this, but I will tell you that they do in fact have a effect. Just because you don't see a adjustment or a number change doesn't mean it is purely cosmetic. There is a difference in feel, maybe you don't feel it, but others do.

And by the way, they can't be adjusted because they are fixed.
 
I am done debating this, but I will tell you that they do in fact have a effect. Just because you don't see a adjustment or a number change doesn't mean it is purely cosmetic. There is a difference in feel, maybe you don't feel it, but others do.

And by the way, they can't be adjusted because they are fixed.

So we can beat this like a dead horse,if these were used properly we would have the effect that they were intended too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuser_(automotive)
 
I am done debating this, but I will tell you that they do in fact have a effect. Just because you don't see a adjustment or a number change doesn't mean it is purely cosmetic. There is a difference in feel, maybe you don't feel it, but others do.

And by the way, they can't be adjusted because they are fixed.

That's fine, but something as vague and subjective as 'feel' doesn't help anyone like testing and lap times would.

Regardless of the track and choice of controller (though wheels can be more consistant), with an honest effort against your ghost, a car with the splitter, canards, and diffuser (without a wing) will put down the same lap times as it would without them. Likewise, that car with the splitter, canards, and diffuser (with a wing) will put down the same lap times as it would with only the wing.

Once you put a wing onto the car, even fixed front aero numbers have a value assigned to them (Aventador, R35, 458, McLaren F1, etc.). Add or remove a splitter, canards, and / or diffuser, and there's no change in the numbers. There's no change in the lap times.

I didn't want to believe the placebo effect. Aero parts ahould do aero stuff. That's what they do for crying out loud. But I've put down laps against my ghosts until I was blue in the face. Everything -- braking, turn-in, cornering and top speeds, etc. -- is the same. There's no additional aero drag or grip. But they look cool.

Somewhere in the annals of GTP is a buried thread about this very same thing with similar conclusions.
 
Try them on the premium Mazda RX7 Spirit R. If you don't feel the slight difference between having them on the car and not having them on the car, then you don't pay close enough attention to what your car is doing.


What I was talking about far as the DS3 vs wheel point I made above, is that you don't have that extra feeling of what that is doing.

All of those parts are not for cosmetic use, they actually do something.

They do have a effect on the handling, but it is a slight difference just like in real life. Go try it yourself. I can't show you feeling, you have to feel it yourself. So don't ask me to find a video or try to prove it to you, because it is impossible to prove feel.
 
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