Still more MINIs on the way.... Coupe pantent drawings are out.

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Further news on the future of the Mini Brand from BMW insider SCOTT at the 1addicts forum at Bimmerpost.com

(Don't think JJ72's going to like it....)

SCOTT from Bimmerpost.com
The MINI Traveller .
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If there is one phrase to describe the brief for the MINI Traveller then it is named the "swiss-army-knife MINI variant". It's internal name is "Spacebox" because it is all about increasing practicality and flexibility of a MINI for the MINI customer who has to move to another brand because they have a family that has grown or simply they need more space.

In order to show how the MINI brand can be accomodated with a concept that is less van in appearance - The MINI Traveller will be shown as a Concept car in the not-so-distant future to showcase how innovation is achieved not only from the outside but also from the inside.

The theme for the Traveller is very much "Access all areas" and uses the typical MINI solutions to passenger access such as rear-hinged doors and barn doors which could be configured Clubman style or in a 60/40 opening allowing smaller bags to be stored via a smaller door and vice versa.
BMW believe that MINI with it's innovative approach to access furthers and distinguishes it's identity from its forthcoming BMW siblings.

The overall look of the Traveller is very much MINI. The dimensions are compact and the front overhang is kept short. In essence the MINI Traveller is very much like a larger Clubman. It's internal term "Spacebox" is derived from the spacious interior and also the expanse of glass which gives the MINI Traveller an abundance of light including a larger panoramic roof which allows the interior to look larger than it is. The appearance of the MINI Traveller is very much MINI III - raked headlights and larger grille determines the facial features , whilst at the rear they are experimenting with high level taillamps in the C-pillars.

The MINI interior though expands on practicality with additional storage points increasing flexibility but in a unique MINI way. So you will have reverse-hinged storage compartments in some parts of the car.

The MINI/UKL Family

MINI III
MINI Cabrio III
MINI Clubman
MINI Traveller
MINI Countryman (current and future)
MINI Paceman Sport Activity Coupe
MINI Coupe (current)
MINI Roadster (current)

MINI Sports Car Project *
MINI Rocketman
* ( If the MINI Coupe and MINI Roadster are successful , replacements could see the Coupe merge into a stand alone project not using a Current (or future) MINI but use a bespoke body with possible Roadster)

The new strategy for UKL/MINI is derived from a new modular platform which like the larger matrix of the (BMW) F20 and F30 can be stretched and shrunk via modular applications, providing which model will sit on top. The new strategy and the sharing of both (BMW) N20 and N37 engine families will allow BMW to increase it's profitability in the long run for this segment , something which could not be achieved with MINI alone. With combined MINI/BMW UKL sales BMW are expecting production and sales output to surpass both the 1er and 3er by 2020.
Sustainable Powertrains have not been forgotten either with the new platform. Aswell as the option of all-wheel-drive which could be spread throughout other MINI's including the MINI III hatch.

Customers downsizing and new and existing customers who want more flexibility and space are the key. BMW has tested the Compactive Sport Tourer within a clinic of clients who own MPV's.
And customers were very interested in the BMW and gave it top-marks because of it's unique style and flexibility over the range of cars brought in to oversee from mainstream volume manufacturers.
This segment is also expected to grow by 45% per year and BMW are projecting that both the Compactive Sport Tourer and MINI Traveller will be taking the bulk of this percentage.
 
So.. More Minis on the way? Well, at least there's another which perhaps is a special one.

The Mini Countryman Prodrive :mischievous:

So after some good results has come out of WRC from this WRC Mini Prodrive car, they have decided to build a production car itself of this Mini.

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So this is a spy picture provided by Autocar UK, and it looks pretty similar to the typical Cooper S, just that there a couple of good things being heavily modified in there!

  • Muscular body kit that includes a large fixed carbon fibre wing.
  • Custom unbranded alloy wheels.
  • Prodrive-branded Milltek exhaust.
  • Superchips-tuned version of the Cooper S’s turbocharged 1.6-litre petrol engine.

Now sources indicates the car now produces around 230bhp on the dyno but they are seriously considering for more power and a much larger turbo. Now this thing is still being develop and is a rumour to whether it will really become production or not. Guess we'll see it in a couple of months to come...

[Sources of information and image are from BMWBLOG and Autocar UK]
 
It's just a pity it still looks atrocious.

Incidentally, I saw a MINI Coupe on the road for the first time the other day, in the white with red stripes they've appeared in the magazines in a lot.

Stands out nicely, has the sort of "ooh, what's that" presence of the Peugeot RCZ, but it's still an ugly, badly proportioned thing. It just looks like the voodoo man at the end of Beetlejuice has shrunk its roof with some magic powder but left the rest of the car the same as the regular MINI.

It's saving grace is that it's supposed to be good to drive, and that the MINI badge means you could sell dog turds if you gave them Cooper stripes.
 
I'm okay with the countryman. The Traveller just looks like the previous Mini with a even lower roof... it almost reminds me of the cartoon cars I drew back then where everything was big except for the roof.
 
Now sources indicates the car now produces around 230bhp on the dyno but they are seriously considering for more power and a much larger turbo. Now this thing is still being develop and is a rumour to whether it will really become production or not. Guess we'll see it in a couple of months to come...

230 on the dyno, so around 250-260ish? As if the 200 horsepower one wasn't squirrely enough? I swear, the Countryman S, despite having more weight than the MINI Cooper S and a mere 1.6 liters of turbocharged power, torque steers like a rabid chihuahua trying to wiggle out of getting a shot at the vet.*

This sounds like it'll be the whole Doberman.


*i.e.: Not scary or problematic, but pretty irritating.
 
Well... I'd rather a front-driver... supposedly the AWD doesn't really change the car in the way it changes the EVO over the Lancer... front-biased and only squirts 50% of the torque rearward after the fronts slip... more like Ralliart versus regular Lancer (and while the extra traction for the Ralliart is nice, it feels duller and less lively than your basic front-wheel drive Lancer).

The Countryman S is downright entertaining on the racetrack... though a bit loose... it's nowhere near as stable as the regular MINI in Cooper S trim, but I'm betting a few suspension tweaks and better tires will fix that.
 
If they're doing as much to fettle it as suggested I'd be surprised if they didn't tweak the front and rear torque too, if they do go with the 4WD version.
 
STILL more Mini's on the way.

This time a van.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/112021841339/mini-clubvan-concept-revealed

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I think it's a good idea, and I think they'll sell. Lots of soletraders or independent shops need a van and end-up having to use it as a car, or run a second vehicle themselves, and no doubt people will be attracted to the MINI brand.


edit: I can imagine the scenario "Hello, awfully nice to meet you, my names Hugh, Hugh Buckingham, my friends at the polo club call me HB.. now, listen here old chap, I need motor carriage for my sign making business...."
 
It's an incredibly clever idea, and a great concept too.

The reason it's clever is because every boutique shop across the country will want one. They already have regular MINIs so the Clubvan will be right up their street.

The reason it's a great concept is because it's finally another Mini that has actual historical precedence, unlike the Coupe/Roadster/Countryman:

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I've been saying ever since the Clubman came out that they should turn it into a van. Years, I've been saying it. Now they have, so I'm happy. Produce it MINI.

Don't care if MINI is "money grabbing" on this one. It's the first MINI since the Clubman that I've actually liked.
 
MINI Clubvan S anyone? :lol:

Seriously though, what models are they going to offer the Clubvan in? One and Cooper, along with diesel versions? Or is there just going to be one spec?
 
I'll go for a Mini Pickup with a canvas tilt cover, please.

I'll also have the tonneau to go with it, but make it snappy. :)
 
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MINI Clubvan S anyone? :lol:

Seriously though, what models are they going to offer the Clubvan in? One and Cooper, along with diesel versions? Or is there just going to be one spec?

It's only a "concept" at the moment, the quotation marks there because it basically looks like a production model. BMW hasn't confirmed whether it'll get produced yet but I expect the announcement will come at Geneva when they launch it.

If/when it does arrive, I'd expect maybe One and Cooper trim levels, unless they invent some new ones for the van. Diesel is most likely, though I could see some petrol engines too as MINI's petrol cars are actually fairly economical and this is hardly a vehicle that'll be carrying heavy stuff.
 
I'm missing the blanked-out windows. I mean, every other microvan in Europe has blanks there, why not the MINI?

I think it's a brilliant idea. Strip the interior. Make them cheap. Make them diesel.

Then give us that van!
 
and soften the suspension in front, stiffen it in the rear, so that way the Van Man isn't too inspired to try cornering shenanigans...give it steelies with wheel covers and long-wearing fuel-efficiency tires...

but, yeah, the Clubman makes sense as a true Van. I mean, if 206s can be 'vans', then Minis can be too.

granted, in the States, it might make a nice commercial runabout for businesses too small for a Transit Connect, and a nice advertising statement, but I don't see many plumbers trading their E-series, Safaris, and Expresses for these. I could see a lot of businesses buying these as personal vehicles for the tax write-off, though. I've seen quite a few HHRs used like this in my area.
 
Stiffening the rear is a great way to encourage cornering shenanigans... :D
 
well, not if it's to the point where you can add a few tons of weight to the back, but I do get the point. :P
 
Ah, I have fond memories of opposite lock in an empty LWB Mercedes Sprinter... only time(s) I've got the back-end out in a Merc!
 
BMW really is milking everything it can from this.

Why wouldn't they? The brand sells cars and there's a demand for them, keep giving the public more of what they want and they'll continue to buy it.

As for the Clubvan I think it's a great idea, the car was design to be something like this. It'll suit small businesses well to that don't need something as large as a Ford Transit or have to do quite a bit of driving. I just hope Best But doesn't start buying them for Geek Squad cars.
 
be good for people that want bigger than a fiesta van, but smaller than a kangoo/caddy, and nowhere as hideous as a bipper :lol: still look great too!
 
be good for people that want bigger than a fiesta van, but smaller than a kangoo/caddy, and nowhere as hideous as a bipper :lol: still look great too!

Today I learned there was such a thing as a Fiesta Van. I wonder why it isn't sold here in the states? Maybe when MINI starts offering the Clubvan, Ford will bring it here.
 
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