Stock A-Spec Seasonal #5 - (450PP, 550PP NRC, 600PP RC - 8/06 to 8/20)

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@MisterWeary : I like your spreadsheet/table; it's very cool. 👍 It also looks like a lot of work. So how exactly does it work? Do you have to enter all the values yourself or is there way to have a public editable version in the vein of GoogleDocs? I've used these types of things before where everyone enters their own entries which prevents all the work from having to be done by a single person and it can be done continuously. I'm also not sure how you are displaying the image of it: it sounds like the image is linked to an image on your website and the one on your website changes based on your most up-to-date entries, so that there is only one current dynamic image? Would this mean I would simply have to put a link to the image on the first post of a thread and the current table would be visible?

The only thing I would add is possibly how far behind the Rabbit was or better yet its total time, because it is kind of important to know if a race was very close or your car was dominating. Also if you use the Rabbit's total time you will be able to see patterns in the times to beat due to the averages of the total Rabbit times and we can see which are the slowest of the Rabbits when trying to get the right opponent line-up (though we will never know if they drove off into the dirt or spun out).



Personally I wouldn't post a win unless it was clean, i.e. no intentional off-track to gain an advantage. I even try to race fairly with AI although it can be frustrating when they don't reciprocate. But it's impossible to police unless we start demanding video evidence, and we don't want to go there, do we? And where do you draw the line, accidentally putting three wheels off track, unsporting blocking? It's just for fun anyway so I think we just have to say anything goes and let people choose how they want to play it. Ultimately it's up to @Hastatus if he wants to add more rules.

I agree with driving clean. 👍 I only post times when I can manage a clean one and almost always restart when I've made a bad hit on the AI cars: if I continue it is only to get an estimate on whether a car is capable of winning, and then I repeat the race if it is. I've always considered it us testing the limits of the cars, rather than explicitly competing with one another. Using AI as breaking points or cutting corners of the track is not really informative about a car's capabilities and would rarely be useful info for most people...I hope.
 
I have tried the Z GT500 Base Model, the Audi R8, and the Calsonic GT-R (tweaking the PP enough to get it under 600), and that damn rabbit wins by over 30 seconds! I've had good races, and equally bad races at "The Green Hell", but this one... I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WIN THIS RACE!
 
In GT5 low pp + SRF , rulebook out of the window was just for the Credits.

Now we are competing / testing cars for lowest pp clean win (without SRF) just like we do with the stock Time Trials where shortcutting invalidates the lap.
 
@Hastatus: You are correct, at the moment I'm updating the sheet, taking screenshots and uploading them to the same location so you could simply link them in the OP and they'll update. It does put all the work with me which I don't mind to be honest but it is inefficient. I'll tinker a bit further with the sheet and then put it on Google Docs and we can see how that goes. I imagine that method has it's own problems (malicious users, incorrect data, etc) but it makes it easier to keep updating more regularly and spread the load. I've got to head to work but I'm keen to muck around with this stuff a bit over the next few days. If I had a bit more time I wouldn't mind making a web site for data entry but I just don't have the time at the moment.

Regarding clean laps, I'm in agreement with most that the goal should be a clean race. If the system changes to reward lower PPs then maybe the topic could be readdressed but until then I reckon a good clean race/lap should be the goal 👍

EDIT: I just updated the images and noticed that they don't update on GTPlanet, so direct links to the images (http://www.mrcruwys.com/Beginner.jpg, http://www.mrcruwys.com/Intermediate.jpg, http://www.mrcruwys.com/Expert.jpg) instead of embedding them may be necessary or, as mentioned, we'll just move to a public spreadsheet
 
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"A-havin' me some fun tonight." As Little Richard once sang in the back of the Chopper.

Vauxhall VX220 Turbo (Brilliant Yellow)
197bhp/25 torques/1005kg/MR/CS/423pp


I had the Scud of Gasparini on Pole, with Pulkkinen's LFA Nurby and Nakayama's GT-R Black in the 2 and 3 slots.

My race was fun, (Soft tyres - what a girl!) the car was not quite knife edge, but if you over egg a corner the rears will give up on you and you will oversteer and cry lap time. Also the tyres make a spooky "Alien Ambient sound effect" when you go hard through a longer set of corners. WHo says I don't pay attention when I drive!

Grid
Gasparini/Pulkkinen/Nakayama (Scud430/LFANurby/GTRBlack)
Laps...
2m37.235/2m37.413/2m37.221/2m35.800/2m36.975 = 13m34.977
and a win by 0.125 over the Scuderia 430 of P.Gasparini

Gasparini did...
2m42.213/2m49.622/2m48.362/2m35.465/ 2m39.4ish to finish 2nd by 0.125

No cheating, weaving, blocking, corner cutting - a few laps I put an outside wheel on the curbs on the exit. No bish bash bosh racing either - all my passes were so clean, the nun in the passenger seat didn't blush once.

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Mazda RX-7 Savanna INFINI III (Shade Green)

212bhp/28torques/1230kg/FR/CS/411pp
but once you get to the track...
209bhp/28torques/1230kg/FR/CS/411pp

Nice Porsche 924 styling and a good shade of Dark Green (shaves 0.2 seconds from any lap that paint chip does.)

Grid
Saari/Nakagawa/Pulkkinen (Gallardo/GTRBlack/LFANurby)
laps
2m41.164/2m41.630/2m41.906/2m40.227/2m41.110 = 13m56.803
2nd place by 1.133 behind the Gallardo - I didn't mind as he was Saari. Saari the Norwegian driver in a 4 wheel drive Lambo with Sports Semi slicks!

No win. but The AI are so inconsistent I would never judge the event by who won the race.
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Ruf RGT
On the track you get...
378bhp/38 Torques/1330kg/RR/SH/499pp (143,250cr - and no Paint chip!)

I gave mine a lick of Diamond Red from the Mitsubishi VGT car (Looks like a Toffee Apple/Candy Apple now!)

Grid
Gasparini/Weber/Saari (Scud430/SL65/Gallardo)

Laps
2m22.833/2m22.828/2m21.605/2m19.300/2m20.286 = 12m16.552
1st by 3.691 seconds from the Low flying Scud of Gasparini


This race was like a naughty treat - So much grip and power - got up to first place before the end of lap 2. This woke up the AI who then shadowed me, Saari had a last gasp dive up the inside into the tight 90° left before Club - I saw him and expected him to pass, not fly through the corner like a Maldonardo tribute act. Gasparini was close by, a few side by sides, but for whatever reason they are not very confident in the corners.

Lots of fun, but I had some fails.

I had wanted to run a Spoon S2000 (Not normal) - and then I had a dash with the "Road Legal" Toyota 86 Racing - but that isn't normal either... I almost expected the Tuner Ruf to get refused entry to Siverstun.


All races with ABS=0 TCS=0 Stock cars, Brake bias 5/5. All three were brand new cars, no oil - the only change of note beyond turning the ABS and TCS off was painting the RGT.
 
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I've put the spreadsheet on my Google Drive and made it public, if people want to have a play feel free:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...kUeb9OMLVE40em-CwE38rJNOvQ/edit#gid=907396984

This is the best solution in my opinion. Everyone who wishes to put their times in will be able to do so on their own. This means no one person is responsible for a great load of watching and data entry. We could create the same type of thing for the Time Trials. What I have done in the past is create blank slates that can be easily copied for each new event. Then old data, once events close, can be saved within a historical record type of tab within the same document so people only need to bookmark one document. I'll definitely be playing around with this at some point. Thanks for getting us started.
 
This is the best solution in my opinion. Everyone who wishes to put their times in will be able to do so on their own. This means no one person is responsible for a great load of watching and data entry. We could create the same type of thing for the Time Trials. What I have done in the past is create blank slates that can be easily copied for each new event. Then old data, once events close, can be saved within a historical record type of tab within the same document so people only need to bookmark one document. I'll definitely be playing around with this at some point. Thanks for getting us started.
I agree. This is a better system. I'm happy if you want to take this and edit it with rabbit times etc and then add it or a different one to your OP...I'm also happy to help in any way you'd like. We all appreciate your work in keeping these threads going and sharing the workload is definitely something I endorse :)

Speaking of which, I know the TTs are coming out this arvo...let me know if I can help with anything 👍
 
Had time for a few more runs at Silverstone:

PP Best Lap Total Time Vehicle Tyres Drive BHP Weight P/W Rabbit

434 02:39.600 13:52.343 Lancia Stratos 15th Aniv CS MR 221 980 4.43 GT-R Black edition '12
440 02:37.535 13.40.643 Renault Megane RS Trophy '11 CS FF 261 1387 5.31 430 Scuderia
472 02:29.734 Skyline VspecII Nür (R34) '02 SH 4WD 336 1560 4.64 430 Scuderia

Wins with both the Stratos and the Megane were due to the rabbit spinning out on the big curve right before the chicane. The R34 was an easy win.
 
[QUOTE="I always see 2 cars banding together blocking the whole road and it is hard to pass them cleanly so I have to wait for them in the back and zik zak in when opportunities open up. Did you guys encounter this?[/QUOTE]

Yes, very annoying. I find that I have to tread through the grass for a bit; I don't like it, but it works.
 
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