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I know the weather option will be on... But at what parameters are you going to set the values (surface water, changeability, time progresion etc.) for q and for race?
 
Weather reports
Week 2 silverstone GP -5.891m
Forward weather/time variable wet race game time start 08:00


heavy showers in the morning followed by lighter showers at mid day.


Qualy settings

Weather at start 50%
Time 08.00
Time progression x1
Changeablity x1
surface water at start 90%


Race settings

Weather at start 30%
Time 08.10
Time progression x1
Changeablity x3
surface water at start 40%
 
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Weather reports
Week 2 silverstone GP -5.891m
Forward weather/time variable wet race game time start 08:00


heavy showers in the morning followed by lighter showers at mid day.


Qualy settings

Weather at start 50%
Time 07.00
Time progression x1
Changeablity x1
surface water at start 90%


Race settings

Weather at start 30%
Time 08.00
Time progression x1
Changeablity x3
surface water at start 40%
Are we even going to have night races this series?
 
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Round 1 Monza Autodrome


Qualifying: A re-run of qualifying I had no improvement over my original placing so no surprise there and still rooted with no practice from GTPES Le Mans all weekend. So I accepted that lol.

11th

Race: I had a good start, picking up a couple spots from others going off and keeping @RodeRuner1967 in my sights, getting as high as 8th I think? But unfortunately went a bit too deep into Parabolica a few laps in, just putting a wheel off and spun going straight back to last. Luckily I started on RM's so caught back up through the next couple stops as I went long and then to softs.

Really happy I didn't go a lap down at any point. Some great battling through an up and down gap with @RodeRuner1967 throughout the race. My final pit stop glitches a little and gave me a full tank of fuel instead of what I asked for, was on track to jump back over him and @filipino1234 but extra fuel had me re enter just behind them. TNT had an unfortunate off again, was looking forward to fighting you mate. So was on the hunt to catch @filipino1234, getting very close before the final 5 minutes, and slightly catching the grass through the first chicane as I tried to hang on nose to tail through there, next couple laps trying to regain the gap from my mistake. Finally getting a run on down the front straight coming into the last lap, but just after passing he ran out of fuel, was looking forward to defending the last lap mate but was a great little battle :).

7th

Some good gains in the end from start position, if it wasn't for my early mistake I could've been in touch of the top 4. Really looking forward to Silverstone, I love the track the more and more I race on it. Such a great flow, so look out ;) The rain will make it very interesting but!
 
I will be on for sure tonight for testing if anyone fancies it, may even have a full race distance to see what the weather does, staring around 19.00 uk if anyone is up for it
 
it was just a test race, but I do not like the way you drive bloodyboyblue

You can't cut down in a corner like someone isn't there, even if I did let you go you still would've hit me since you came down so sharp. I would've let you go probably if it was the first lap of a real race, but I didn't because I was faster and I was slightly ahead of you. It's possible to go double wide through pretty much any corner. Just acknowledge that there's a car underneath you.
 
Gueven and Blue,
i dont think either of you meant it, as you are both clean as far as i know.

We are all going to watch the replay and post our thoughts.
 
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Well Gueven and Blue.

I have watched the replay and to me this is what i think.

That corner where the first contact was made is a very fast corner and there is really only one line through it at high speed, especially on a wet track.
Blue had the run on gueven and was almost alongside gueven at the turn in point, but gueven was ahead.

Gueven really had no choice but to turn in, and blue who was on the inside would have had to back off anyway as he could not take that line at the same speed as gueven epecially on the wet part of the track.

When you came together this knocked gueven off the track, and i think blue should have let gueven stay ahead.

So in my View Gueven was ahead and it was his corner to take the line.
When you collided i assume gueven twas thinking Blue will back off and let him stay ahead, but you seemed to contact again, i assume blue thinks gueven was at fault and was hoping gueven backs off.

The rule is the driver ahead can take the line.
So i would sat that blue was at fault.
 
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View attachment 402582 View attachment 402582 Well Gueven and Blue.

I have watched the replay and to me this is what i think.

That corner where the first contact was made is a very fast corner and there is really only one line through it at high speed, especially on a wet track.
Blue had the run on gueven and was almost alongside gueven at the turn in point, but gueven was ahead.

Gueven really had no choice but to turn in, and blue who was on the inside would have had to back off anyway as he could not take that line at the same speed as gueven epecially on the wet part of the track.

When you came together this knocked gueven off the track, and i think blue should have let gueven stay ahead.

So in my View Gueven was ahead and it was his corner to take the line.
When you collided i assume gueven twas thinking Blue will back off and let him stay ahead, but you seemed to contact again, i assume blue thinks gueven was at fault and was hoping gueven backs off.

The rule is the driver ahead can take the line.
So i would sat that blue was at fault.

Tbh it looks like there was a little bit of lag going on.

Copse was a bit scrappy, blue was entitled to some room but because of the wet conditions on the inside it would've been safer to hold off because it's pretty likely to have some entry understeer/snap oversteer on exit when you get on the power. But that corner I'd say was a racing incident where guev probably should've given Blue a little more room.

Just before Becketts though, it's a no brainer and 100% Blue's fault in my opinion. I don't understand why guev swerved across beforehand but blue just cleanly hit into the side of guev at entry forcing him onto the grass and so didn't give Guev enough space.

At least it's practice though!
 
Tbh it looks like there was a little bit of lag going on.

Copse was a bit scrappy, blue was entitled to some room but because of the wet conditions on the inside it would've been safer to hold off because it's pretty likely to have some entry understeer/snap oversteer on exit when you get on the power. But that corner I'd say was a racing incident where guev probably should've given Blue a little more room.

Just before Becketts though, it's a no brainer and 100% Blue's fault in my opinion. I don't understand why guev swerved across beforehand but blue just cleanly hit into the side of guev at entry forcing him onto the grass and so didn't give Guev enough space.

At least it's practice though!
Yes i think maybe bit a bit angry at each other after the first contact.

Ideally blue in a situation where 2 cars entering a corner, especially a fastish corner, its always better to just hang back.
Our races are long and if it was a short race i would tend to agree with the need to get past gueven. But a 90 minute race you have plenty of time to get past, so always best to let the anger go away then plan another overtake.
Gueven has been with us for several series now and he already knows this.

I must say if i had been gueven i would like to think you would have just waited, as any contact in our series is not good.

Best to just apologise to each other as i am sure neither of you wanted that to happen.
Thats way we can go into Mondays race with no hard feelings.
 
I wasn't angry. I was mostly trying to stay out of your way logic and was driving my car like it had no damage and gueven was just in the way of my bumbling into those next two corners. You'll be able to tell if I'm angry.
 
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtplanet-online-racing-olr-rules-guidelines.111241/

08: Corner Rights:



A:
When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.

B:
You must establish substantial overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner's turn-in point to have the right to drive up their inside, or to expect them to leave inside room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver's position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was no substantial overlap before he turned in.

C:
If sufficient overlap is established before the turn-in point, then the behind driver has the right to sufficient side room. The ahead driver must also leave sufficient side room for the behind driver. This means that each driver has a right to their respective "line", or side of the track, right up to the exit point. Neither driver should squeeze the other toward the inside or outside of the corner during the apex or exit.

D:
If an ahead driver has clearly made an error to warrant a passing move, a behind driver may attack their position, with due caution and care, regardless of whether there was any pre-existing overlap. However, the overtaking driver must still avoid contact. Small errors by the ahead driver may not justify a passing move. The ahead driver getting a bit out of shape at times doesn't give you an automatic right to pass. You still have to judge if their error allows for a safe pass to take place.

E:
Drivers who are using PS3 controllers MUST make additional effort in driving due to the fact they can't use side-view, and their perception of the other cars is thereby limited - extreme caution while maneuvering is required. If you are using a controller, you are required to set buttons up for side views as "I didn't see you." is not an excuse if you collide with another driver when racing.


the way i read and understand these rules i have too say that blue had the right too be where he was , i myself wouldnt have been there knowing we run with full damage :)
 
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Thank you SRT

I have to say that sometimes at high speed corners - you are very focused on turning in at just the right time so as not to go off.
Also i noticed that even though blue was almost alongside, there was at least a car width gap as they were just approaching the turn in point, Gueven on the outside of the track and Blue near the middle of the track.

I have had it on occasions where the other car indicator does not show a car alongside if there is a gap alongside.
Then on the turn in they close together and the indicator shows the car is there, but its too late on that sort of high speed corner as you are already committed to the corner.

Also at that turn a lot of concentration is put into just making sure you get through the corner.

Just my thoughts.
 
But, i think acording to the rules SRT quoted and from my personal perspective as well, that Blue also had full right to be there because he was at least 3/4 of cars lenght along your car... AND he had inside line - it was a situation were i would eather let him pass or (if i know him enough) i would go "side by side" trough corner, keeping my self on the outside line and expecting him to stay on inside even on exit... That is what i see all the time i real life racing :)

...Is this a bad time to point out how much i would enjoy if we used "light damage" :D

Back on topic - SO WHAT IS THE RULE? Are we allowed to make overtaking atempt only if "drivers list on screen" shows that we really got ahead before breaking zone, or are we to drive acording to rules SRT quoted?

Either way is ok, but we really need TOTAL conzensus on that, because of that heavy damage especialy.
 
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