Stupidest Use of Arrest Powers Ever
- Thread starter Famine
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- 4,754
- Kansas City, MO
- FlyingAGasoline
Yup, sounds like our police, people get pulled over for neon underglows where i live. bradford pears are now illegal where i live because they break in storms. WTH is up with that?
Welcome to overland park. the friendly suburbia where everything is illegal.
Welcome to overland park. the friendly suburbia where everything is illegal.
- 87,572
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
Neons, tyre flies and neon washers are illegal over here, as the light colours blue, red and green are reserved for emergency services.
The only person this girl was harming was herself - she shouldn't be arrested and charged with a serious sexual offence which carries a stigma for life. She should be counselled - why would she feel the need to post naked images of herself to the world anyway?
The only person this girl was harming was herself - she shouldn't be arrested and charged with a serious sexual offence which carries a stigma for life. She should be counselled - why would she feel the need to post naked images of herself to the world anyway?
- 804
That does sound ridiculous. I've been pulled over in the TVR numerous times just because of the noise it makes, and everytime i tell them it goes through an MOT so they just get back in there car (usually unmarked Omega) and bugger off. Even though one time they tried making something of the lack of apparent door handles 
- 87,572
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
Won't solve the problem will it - and indeed it rips the purpose of having child pornography laws apart.
The point of having the laws is to protect children. By sticking this girl in prison and slapping a "sex offender" tag next to her name, her life will be ruined. At 15. Imagine if she wanted to be a nurse, teacher, childminder (and so on) - she'd never be able to get a job in her chosen career because she's a "sex offender", making her chances of getting ANY job at all slimmer than they ought to be. And who was she harming with her vile crimes against children? Only herself, by allowing her own images to become public domain to any fruit that wanted them.
She needs counselling - but perhaps it's all part of society's creeping sexualisation of children that makes her feel she ought to be a porn model - and not stigmatising for the rest of her life.
- 30,021
- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
But they are still prettty safe in a crash, the bodywork takes al the impact and the force goes right passed the cabin and out the back instead of through it, thats how they are engineered, they don'tneed crumple zones either as a result, and they don't ave them. If you crash a TVR, you should be as safe as your average sports car, but the car will look bad, although the chassis it'self will be relatively okay.
On the subject of the girl, arresting her is stupid, they were pictures of herself, she wasn't posting pictures of another underage girl or boy. If two 15 year olds get caught having sex, they don't get arrested for that. Lke Famine said, putting her in prison won't do her or any of the internet users any good, she's not a paedophile.
On the subject of the girl, arresting her is stupid, they were pictures of herself, she wasn't posting pictures of another underage girl or boy. If two 15 year olds get caught having sex, they don't get arrested for that. Lke Famine said, putting her in prison won't do her or any of the internet users any good, she's not a paedophile.
- 3,765
- Macungie, PA
- The359
You can't take photos of yourself or anyone else if the subject in the photos is under the age of 18 (21 in some states). Even if she wasn't charged with child pornography, what she did was still illegal. She is still a minor at the age of 15, she technically doesn't have the right to give up pictures of herself naked to anyone in any form.
- 87,572
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
Yep - not in question. It's the actions afterwards, of arresting and charging her with a crime (and the charge will show up on a police data check at some point in her future, when she applies for a job of certain types). She needs help - education and therapy - not this stigma of being a child sex offender, when she's (probably) never actually committed a sexual offence against another child.
- 19,311
- Inland Empire SoCal
- SOLID_LIFTERS
I don't think were getting the entire story. It sounds like she took just one picture of herself, and posted it as a joke, according to the writer. But maybe, the police have more evidence of her posting a lot more photos, in atempt to profit from what would be child pornography. If that's the case, I say, throw her in a jail, until she gets proper counselling, and feels what she did was wrong.
If it was just one photo then I don't see the need for the arrest, and possible jail time. Though, I say giving her a scare by being placed under arrest might send a message to her, and others, that this sort of activity wont be tolerated, which it shouldn't.
If it was just one photo then I don't see the need for the arrest, and possible jail time. Though, I say giving her a scare by being placed under arrest might send a message to her, and others, that this sort of activity wont be tolerated, which it shouldn't.
- 9,646
- Minus955
I doubt it was a joke. She was probably just having a little too much fun with her boyfriend or a random guy. Perhaps she was talking to one of those undercover cops who pretend to be teenagers and talk online to catch sex offenders, and offered her naked pictures.
Don't think it doesn't happen.
Now, if it was a whole set of pictures, well, that's different.
Don't think it doesn't happen.
Now, if it was a whole set of pictures, well, that's different.
- 466
She commited a crime, even if your doing it yourself its still a crime. Say if a 17 year old took pics of their genitals and posted them on the net and distrubited it to the plubic. They are still contrubiting to child pornography even if its themselfs in the pics. I mean come on what prevention is in place to protect children from making their own porn and passing it out? Nothing that I know of. Its still a sex offense, law is law "all models are of 18 years or older" Nudity falls under this catageroy. Its her own fault for posing nude for what ever reason she choose to do so, she should have had enough common sense to know better. Seeing that she must be net savy then she should have known posting naked picutres of herself was illegal being that she is under 18.
- 87,572
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
Yes - the fact she committed a criminal offence is not in question. But the title of the thread is:
Stupidest Use of Arrest Powers Ever
The fact is she - a minor - has been arrested and charged and will have to live the rest of her life tainted by the fact that "sex offender" will be flagged next to her name on a police data search, preventing her from getting a job in a large number of fields - and hindering her in all fields - due to an offence she committed against NO-ONE, under the auspices of child pornography laws intended to protect minors. Can no-one see the conflict here? She hasn't done anything SO bad that she deserves that. For the rest of her existence.
The arrest is unwarranted, the charges are unwarranted. She needs help and counselling, not branding - which is what HAS happened.
Stupidest Use of Arrest Powers Ever
The fact is she - a minor - has been arrested and charged and will have to live the rest of her life tainted by the fact that "sex offender" will be flagged next to her name on a police data search, preventing her from getting a job in a large number of fields - and hindering her in all fields - due to an offence she committed against NO-ONE, under the auspices of child pornography laws intended to protect minors. Can no-one see the conflict here? She hasn't done anything SO bad that she deserves that. For the rest of her existence.
The arrest is unwarranted, the charges are unwarranted. She needs help and counselling, not branding - which is what HAS happened.
- 959
Well child porn is illegal no matter what,and she did knowingly put child porn on the net,but how do you charge a child with child pornography.This is one for the case books.
In my personal opinion I think she should get some consequences,but I wouldn't go as for as any kind of jail time.
In my personal opinion I think she should get some consequences,but I wouldn't go as for as any kind of jail time.
- 3,765
- Macungie, PA
- The359
Wouldn't she still be tainted for the rest of her life if people found out she posted porn pics of herself anyway? She did something illegal, she deserves her punishment. She should have known she was doing something illegal to begin with, so I don't see why she should get out of punishment.
- 593
I mean, the thing is, that she distributed the pics of herself and made other people do illegal stuff by buying the photos. Some incitement-thing or somehting to say the least. I think she deserves a fair penalty.
- 30,021
- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
The way I see it, if two 15 years olds can have sex and get away with it, why has she been arrested for this, it's still wrong, but like Famine said, what they've done is stupid, they could've slapped her wrists, put on a 5 year offenders list and let that be a lesson for her, if she did it again, then take further action.
- 593
Yeah, but she is making like 50 year old pedophiles having sex with their right hand with her photo, which is illegal, because distributing them is just against the law. To say the least.
I don't get your logic in this case.
I don't get your logic in this case.
- 593
You can say, that the laws are protecting the child from more harm to happen.
Maybe/Most possibly she didn't know what she was getting herself into.
I still say, she deserves a fair penalty, because at least for the distributing stuff.
Maybe/Most possibly she didn't know what she was getting herself into.
I still say, she deserves a fair penalty, because at least for the distributing stuff.
- 87,572
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
How? How are the laws being used to protect her?
Like I said earlier, if she thought it was a good idea to post naked pictures of herself, she doesn't need arresting and charging with serious sexual offences - she needs counselling. Her case will not stop paedophiles abusing children - well, only briefly while they laugh out loud, thankful that the law aren't onto them, while they're concentrating on the evils of a misguided little girl.
As has been stated earlier, we don't know why she though it was a good idea. Perhaps she was being groomed in a chatroom by a paedophile who encouraged her. Perhaps our (meaning Western society) insidious sexualisation of children through printed and broadcast media made her think she should be making risque pictures of herself. Perhaps she's just an attention whore. In any case, no application of the law in this case will help her, or stop the real child sex offenders. It can only harm her, which is the exact thing the spirit of the law is designed to prevent.
She need educating and rehabilitating, not this.
Like I said earlier, if she thought it was a good idea to post naked pictures of herself, she doesn't need arresting and charging with serious sexual offences - she needs counselling. Her case will not stop paedophiles abusing children - well, only briefly while they laugh out loud, thankful that the law aren't onto them, while they're concentrating on the evils of a misguided little girl.
As has been stated earlier, we don't know why she though it was a good idea. Perhaps she was being groomed in a chatroom by a paedophile who encouraged her. Perhaps our (meaning Western society) insidious sexualisation of children through printed and broadcast media made her think she should be making risque pictures of herself. Perhaps she's just an attention whore. In any case, no application of the law in this case will help her, or stop the real child sex offenders. It can only harm her, which is the exact thing the spirit of the law is designed to prevent.
She need educating and rehabilitating, not this.
- 593
Wooops, seems like I have to say a big sorry to you.
My mind was playing tricks with me and so I made a mistake while translating.
Though I still think, she did illegal things, I for sure too think, that she needs counselling!
There's a German saying, which is 'Nescience doesn't protect from penalty.' Hope, you understand, what I'm trying to say. =)
My mind was playing tricks with me and so I made a mistake while translating.
Though I still think, she did illegal things, I for sure too think, that she needs counselling!
There's a German saying, which is 'Nescience doesn't protect from penalty.' Hope, you understand, what I'm trying to say. =)
- 593
Actually, I totally agree with you. *g*
And yes I've dragged it from nescire. I thought, I've read nescience somewhere before. o_O *lol*
And yes I've dragged it from nescire. I thought, I've read nescience somewhere before. o_O *lol*
