Suicide bomber in Ansbach Germany Outside of a Music Festival

[Johnnypenso]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/world/ansbach-germany-blast/index.html

An explosion in the southern German city of Ansbach was a suicide attack, according to the region's interior minister. The bomber died in the blast. A device was exploded by a 27-year-old Syrian national outside a music festival. He had been denied entry into the event due to the lack of a ticket, Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann said during a news conference early Monday. Twelve people were injured.

The man, who has not yet been named, stood around the festival entrance for a short period before he blew himself up. The music festival and surrounding area were evacuated.
Authorities said the bomber had previously applied for asylum in Germany but had had his application rejected. He was also known to police in Ansbach for previous offenses. German media outlets reported that he had previously attempted suicide. Herrmann said his backpack contained screws and nails, an apparent attempt to inflict further damage.

The accompanying video to this report suggests that at least one person is dead at this point, I believe referring to the bomber himself. It also appears as if this attack and the earlier machete attack which has left one person dead, were both committed by Syrians.

 

[mister dog]

Damn the knifing of the pregnant woman was only half a day ago... guess the **** is seriously hitting the fan in Germany

 

[Rage Racer]

Europe. What the ****?

Well... Fortunately, no dead reported this time.

Upd. Or, I heard there's one dead.
Upd2. It's the terrorist himself.

 

[Dennisch]

Can we have a round of applause for Merkel for bringing terrorism back to Germany?

 

[Rage Racer]

Can we have a round of applause for Merkel for bringing terrorism back to Germany?

It's just an isolated case, remember. He was mentally ill.

 

[Dennisch]

It's just an isolated case, remember. He was mentally ill.

There isn't any evidence that terrorists are among the refugees.

 

[TenEightyOne]

It's just an isolated case, remember. He was mentally ill.

Murders by the mentally ill could hardly be described as "isolated". They account for about 2,500 murders per year in the US alone. This is a horrible incident, don't think I'm saying it's not, I just feel that people are getting too knotted in vivid news.

 

[Vinylshark]

back to Germany?

Care to explain what you mean with that?

 

[Jawehawk]

Can we have a round of applause for Merkel for bringing terrorism back to Germany?

Yes, let's deny the hundreds of thousands who are fleeing war, so that we might keep out the few hundreds intending to do us harm. Have just a little empathy for people who haven't had the fortune to be born in well developed, civilized countries such as you and I.

 

[Dennisch]

Care to explain what you mean with that?

Exactly as it stands.

Yes, let's deny the hundreds of thousands who are fleeing war, so that we might keep out the few hundreds intending to do us harm. Have just a little empathy for people who haven't had the fortune to be born in well developed, civilized countries such as you and I.

It's not about keeping the borders closed and keeping them out of Europe. It's about how they let them in. Without decent background checks. And that's because of Merkel's big mouth. She was the one who said that they should all come to Germany. Which they did. They literally flooded in and overwhelmed the organisations in charge of handling the refugees. And now that mistake has become very apparent.

 

[Crumpet]

Yes, let's deny the hundreds of thousands who are fleeing war, so that we might keep out the few hundreds intending to do us harm. Have just a little empathy for people who haven't had the fortune to be born in well developed, civilized countries such as you and I.

A relatively enormous portion of these "refugees" entering Europe aren't fleeing the Syrian civil war at all. I support helping those who are fleeing war. I don't support substantial uncontrolled migration into Europe.

Whether we should be bringing them to Europe in the first place is debatable. I was under the impression that in seeking refuge one would flee to the nearest safe country, but seemingly that isn't the case.

 

[tarnheld]

It's not about keeping the borders closed and keeping them out of Europe. It's about how they let them in. Without decent background checks. And that's because of Merkel's big mouth. She was the one who said that they should all come to Germany. Which they did. They literally flooded in and overwhelmed the organisations in charge of handling the refugees. And now that mistake has become very apparent.

The bomber came to Germany two years ago, long before Merkels invocation of Article 17 of Dublin III. His asylum application was already rejected and he ought have been deported to Bulgaria. Why that hasn't happened is not yet clear, as is wether it was terrorist attack or amok -- the bomber had been in psychiatric treatment because he tried to commit suicide two times, but hasn't been conspicuous otherwise.

 

[Johnnypenso]

The bomber came to Germany two years ago, long before Merkels invocation of Article 17 of Dublin III. His asylum application was already rejected and he ought have been deported to Bulgaria. Why that hasn't happened is not yet clear, as is wether it was terrorist attack or amok -- the bomber had been in psychiatric treatment because he tried to commit suicide two times, but hasn't been conspicuous otherwise.

The bomber was known to police in Ansbach for previous offenses, including drug crimes, Herrmann said.

 

[mister dog]

as is wether it was terrorist attack or amok

Blowing yourself up at a crowded place with a nail bomb in your backpack, tends to be considered as a terrorist attack.

 

[FoRiZon]

Exactly as it stands.



It's not about keeping the borders closed and keeping them out of Europe. It's about how they let them in. Without decent background checks. And that's because of Merkel's big mouth. She was the one who said that they should all come to Germany. Which they did. They literally flooded in and overwhelmed the organisations in charge of handling the refugees. And now that mistake has become very apparent.

In short, unsecured immigration is bad.

I agree that immigrants, including refugees, should be in subject to background checks. It is, however, applied universally. Biggest mistakes when people advocating this is that they tend to align into certain race or religion.

 

[tarnheld]

The bomber was known to police in Ansbach for previous offenses, including drug crimes, Herrmann said.

Oh, forgot that one, thanks. What i meant with conspicuous is that there are as of now no known islamist connections even if the nailbomb suggest that, and no known arrest because of violent crimes.

15 injured so far 4 of them heavily. Fortunately nobody is in a life-threatening condition.

 

[DK]

"Islamist videos" have been found on the perpetrator's phone.

 

[Samus]

The bomber came to Germany two years ago, long before Merkels invocation of Article 17 of Dublin III. His asylum application was already rejected and he ought have been deported to Bulgaria. Why that hasn't happened is not yet clear, as is wether it was terrorist attack or amok -- the bomber had been in psychiatric treatment because he tried to commit suicide two times, but hasn't been conspicuous otherwise.

If he had been denied asylum and was to be deported why wasn't he in a detention centre?

 

[Danoff]

Blowing yourself up at a crowded place with a nail bomb in your backpack, tends to be considered as a terrorist attack.

It's a good point. Mass-killing sparking terror does seem to be the intent based on the explosive. Whether it was Islamic radicalism is a different question entirely, and it's easy these days to forget that distinction.

 

[mister dog]

It's a good point. Mass-killing sparking terror does seem to be the intent based on the explosive. Whether it was Islamic radicalism is a different question entirely, and it's easy these days to forget that distinction.

Especially because most suicide bombings are related to Islamic radicalism.

Only exception I know of are the Kurds. They would use them too, but they have no beef with the EU and target Turkey.

 

[fumunaplz]

I don't think any of us are terrorized any longer, these guys are clowns. Tragic none the less and needing to be stopped, but to think we see their view in any substantial way? no way. Idiots.

I am angry as well, very angry at how the elite are treating the world population but this is is not the answer. So sorry and sad for the innocent victims, I say we need to stand up and be stronger people.

 

[tarnheld]

If he had been denied asylum and was to be deported why wasn't he in a detention centre?

There are no German detention centres, if you are denied asylum you are expected to leave on your own, any welfare is cut and your freedom of movement in germany is usually restricted to the federal state you are currently residing. Only in special cases the police will forcibly deport you or detain you if ordered by a court. He was residing in a asylum seeker residence, a former hotel.

Investigators have found a terror threat video from the bomber where he refers to IS, altogether with bomb-building stuff in his room.

 

[Obelisk]

This is just becoming utter horse****.

I did feel bad at first, seeing all of this, but now it's just become "Really?".

Edit: Er...Jordan needs to add another word to the filter.

 

[MatskiMonk]

This is just becoming utter horse****.

I did feel bad at first, seeing all of this, but now it's just become "Really?".

Edit: Er...Jordan needs to add another word to the filter.

Not sure how old you are or where you are from, but I don't feel acts like this are anything new. These days it seems to be Islamic radicalists, before that it was the IRA (at least those were the terror attacks I grew up hearing about - and I don't find suicide bombings anywhere nears as vile as proxy-bombings), and there's always been lone nutters with nothing to lose. Same song, different words, but the tune always seems to be rolling along in the background.

 

[Johnnypenso]

...snip...I say we need to stand up and be stronger people.

What does this mean?

 

[Danoff]

It's just an isolated case, remember. He was mentally ill.

Apparently it is radical Islam.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/world/ansbach-germany-blast/

 

[Rage Racer]

Apparently it is radical Islam.

It was sarcasm. (my post)

 

[justin credible]

Not sure how old you are or where you are from, but I don't feel acts like this are anything new. These days it seems to be Islamic radicalists, before that it was the IRA (at least those were the terror attacks I grew up hearing about - and I don't find suicide bombings anywhere nears as vile as proxy-bombings), and there's always been lone nutters with nothing to lose. Same song, different words, but the tune always seems to be rolling along in the background.

I remember the IRA bombings very well and I am not trying to protect the IRA but after witnessing first hand british soldiers on the order from Thatcher to keep the Irish in check I did have some sympathy if only a smidge as the bombings were wrong in every sense.
I have a lot of relatives in Ireland and during the conflicts I was in my teens and dragged to Ireland by my parents to do family visits, I saw soldiers kicking doors off hinges and dragging men and women out of there homes and beating them just because they were Irish, my cousin got a good kicking for waving at a girl he fancied and soldiers thought he was being cocky and ended up hospitalising him and he was only 19 at the time. The Irish were treated like scum exactly the same as Thatcher had the police carry out raids and give miners a good kicking when the strikes were on, A vile horrid woman was Thatcher in my eyes.
To be honest as MatskiMonk says these attacks are nothing new but somehow I felt more at risk when the IRA were bombing places than I do now with Islamic Radicals carrying out attacks. Don't know why maybe it is an age thing you seem to care less about nutters the older you get.

 

[mustafur]

Not sure how old you are or where you are from, but I don't feel acts like this are anything new. These days it seems to be Islamic radicalists, before that it was the IRA (at least those were the terror attacks I grew up hearing about - and I don't find suicide bombings anywhere nears as vile as proxy-bombings), and there's always been lone nutters with nothing to lose. Same song, different words, but the tune always seems to be rolling along in the background.

What about Beheadings in public?

is that as Vile?

 

[MatskiMonk]

What about Beheadings in public?

is that as Vile?

In principle, I don't feel it is actually. Sure it's more gruesome, but one person murdering another isn't as tortuous as forcing someone to kill friends, colleagues and strangers, and themselves, at the threat of their own family being killed.