Super Formula - Fuji race difficulty

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I used Softs, one pit stop for new shoes halfway through. won all 3 first try by like 30 seconds. I used the new sf23 with a racing trans I think and whatever other tuning it allowed. (Anti-lag on strong I believe?). 0 camber. Lowest height. Lowest downforce allowed. Hard difficulty. Never got any rain.
 
Finally made Fuji on hard.

I had to learn the track a bit and needed a few attempts.

A good feeling. :)

SF19 on soft with stop after 7 laps.

A little more downforce on the front wing and the fully adjustable gearbox.
TCS on 2


The lap times are always so 1:23/1:24 fastest was 1:22:503

Total time 21:08:180
 
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Fuji was annoying. The Glen and Croix were pretty straight forward; the the whole race on RH no pit and won them on the first try.

Fuji not so much. It's not that it's hard, but the AI cheats. That's what annoys me. My first race the plan was to do the RH no stop again but the AI was so fast it was able to do RS pit RS and still come out ahead of me. Ok, no problem... time to change it up.

Went to a RM to RM strat. After seven laps the rain came in and it started to pour. Pitted for IM tires which was the right call as the whole track was just below the W tire threshold. The AI? They didn't pit at all. It rained for the next five laps and they never pit, staying on slicks. Eventually it dried up, so I pit for RS and the AI finally pit for RS. They were faster then me on slicks in the rain than I was on IW tires.

:rolleyes:

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ETA - I didn't even realize you could tune the cars. Probably would've helped some, at list on my first try at Fuji. :lol:
 
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Why do Ais are so dumb when the rain comes in certain events (like Le Mans) and sometimes don't seem to be affected and remain as fast while staying on slicks ?

(don't answer, I know why 😅 the answer is in 2 letters)
 
Just completed Fuji on Hard difficulty on the first attempt. 1st place with a 19.xx second lead at the finish line. Ran RS and pitted for tires only after lap 8. No rain.
Used SF19, Anti-lag = Strong, almost no downforce and suspension lowered all the way F/R and stiffened up the dampers a bit.
 
Just echoing everyone else’s thoughts on this, the first 2 events were easy wins on hard with a completely stock SF19 on soft tyres, but I could only scrap 10th at Fuji with the same set-up.

After a bit of tinkering, I used @Shaunm80’s tune for the SF19, with the gears shortened a wee bit - gears 5 and 6 as per the tune are too long to really be usable. Took third with a one stopper on the softs, a faster driver than me could probably make up the 2 seconds a lap needed to beat the AI but words can’t describe how much I hate the Mickey Mouse final sector - I was happy to just complete the menu after an hour of attempting Fuji!
 
Completed the SF menu with my ‘19. All on Easy. No real issues, other than getting PIT’d a few times. Got 500k for the award. I’d never be able to do it on Normal or Hard. These cars are borderline too fast for these old reflexes.🙂
 
Fuji on easy was easy. First drive of the car easy.
Croix was almost as easy, I won by .2 of a second.
Watkins Glen took three attempts. The first I ended up 18th. The second I quit after a big mistake but reduced my fastest lap by 2 seconds. That was all on softs. The third attempt I ran mediums and won in a none stop race. Left rear was gone by the end... I should be able to put a hard tyre on that left rear..
 
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Cat Power
Well.....I'm struggling to get 3rd at the Glen on easy. SF23 RH no pit stop.
Gosh I hate being aged 77 !
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You may have better results using RS and one stop on lap eight. Praiano's SF23 tune works great. I used it on my SF19.
 
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Some of you guys have got to be kidding me when you say you won on first try on Fuji by over 10-20 seconds... On the Hard AI.

I did a RS/RM strategy, with a total time of 21:15 and finished 15 seconds behind 1st place... First through 4th place didn't even pit... And I finished 5th. Barely catching up to 4th which was Fraga.

Wut???

I used the SF23 but I'll try it with one of the SF19s which seem to be faster.

EDIT: Used the SF19 and with a time of 21:09 with a few penalties in the mix I was able to win by 8 seconds... ... And no rain again. The AI on this event is really random.
 
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Andy Lapi
Won Watkins Glen on medium. Fuji is a nightmare..I will try Sainte Croix…these new races are very hard compared to all the others even the 1 or 2 hardest..
SF are quite stupid to drive, full throttle everywhere even on hard..not realistic..
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These cars are downforce monsters in real life as well.

Full throttle all the way through the fast right hander at Fuji!



They seem utterly ridiculous in GT7 but I don't think there as far away from the real thing as you might think.
 
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I had to do all 3 on easy, there is no way I could win on normal, but easy was way too easy, so the difficulty balance must be a bit off for these 3 races I think.
The SF19 is a bit faster, but not enough to win on normal. Used hard tires on all three races, had to pit and change to IM on Fuji, but nobody else did (don't think they did), so that didn't go well.
 
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Running easy at Fuji made me feel like a driving god. :cool:

A two stop strategy on the softs resulted in the whole field being lapped apart from one car.

Will be interesting to see if normal is a good balance of difficulty as I was only able to manage 9th on hard.
 
P1- Watkins Glen was five tries for me. That left rear(RS) was toast for the final lap. Spun out in two races.
P1- St Croix took me three times. Spun again, trying to run one more lap on the RS.
Fuji, still work in progress. Three tries for 12th, 9th, 5th. Left all races on Hard difficulty. I'll get on the podium at some stage.
 
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Watkins Glen and St Croix were easy wins for me on hard difficulty, no stop on Hard tyres with minimum downforce (I didn't realise I had the Anti-Lag on medium), however Fuji was quite a challenge. It took me 4 full attempts to eventually win the race.

The winning strategy for me was Racing Softs no stops which I wouldn't advise as you have no tyres left by the last lap and the left 2 tyres are done by lap 8/9. Softs give you enough pace to overtake the leaders by about lap 7 and pull a small lead. From there I had to try and maintain my tyres as much as possible and make minimal errors. Some of the leaders pit around lap 11/12 which gives you some extra breathing room. I had enough of a gap that 2nd place never got close enough to make any moves, and I finished 0.75 seconds ahead.

Seems like 1 stop going softs -> softs is the best strategy. 0 Stops meant I was lapping around 3 seconds off my best lap for at least 5 laps, which is time you would likely recover after pitting.

Additionally, some of the drivers seem to have much more topspeed than others, I found that either Hizal or Fraga getting out into the lead would be much harder to catch than any other driver and they would be able to pull away in the straights.

In my 4 attempts I never saw rain heavy enough or long enough to warrant pitting, so I wouldn't rely on that as a way to win.
 
I finished 2nd at the Glen, 4.5 secs behind 1st place, after taking non stop penalties here and there. I reckon without penalties, could have easily won the race with a good margin.

I haven't tried Fuji yet, but I have tried at St Croix. It's a nightmare. Any tips or strategies? I raced on hards and finished 19th. I feel i'm particularly struggling in the braking zone after the kink on the back straight.
 
Remy Zero
I finished 2nd at the Glen, 4.5 secs behind 1st place, after taking non stop penalties here and there. I reckon without penalties, could have easily won the race with a good margin.

I haven't tried Fuji yet, but I have tried at St Croix. It's a nightmare. Any tips or strategies? I raced on hards and finished 19th. I feel i'm particularly struggling in the braking zone after the kink on the back straight.
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During the second attempt, I watched where the AI were braking and on my third try, attempted to brake from there. Taking their line before the kink, because they lift a little, will give you some room to brake before the corner.
 
I've just won Fuji (at the second attempt), I did the first 8 laps with mediums on the front and softs on the rear then pitted for a full set of softs for the last 7 laps. That strat might help people struggling with the fronts going off, for those playing on a wheel who don't have to pay controller tax it can probably be done as a straight 1 stop on RS.
 
After 5 or 6 attempts at this race (best result: 5th), I finally got a lucky break with the weather. Just when my soft tyres were used up, I saw a large rain area with dark blue spots rolling on the radar. I switched the softs for IM’s and halfway trough my outlap it started raining. As is usual in GT7, almost none of the AI cars reacted to this so I was able to go from trailing 15 seconds to being 15 seconds ahead in 3 laps. Even had enough time to switch back to soft tyres for the last couple of laps.

Glad to be done with this race. While the challenge was nice for a change, I just don’t like Fuji as a track. Oh yeah, lottery prize for the menu book was…the same Super Formula ‘23 car I had just won the race with…:rolleyes:
 
Grimm6Jack
EDIT: Used the SF19 and with a time of 21:09 with a few penalties in the mix I was able to win by 8 seconds... ... And no rain again. The AI on this event is really random.
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Certainly seems to be. In your case the second place AI ran an approximately 21'17 on hard, in my case I drove a pretty scruffy 21'15 with a car set up with far too much downforce, and my margin of victory was a bit over five seconds so the second place ran a 21'21 or so, four seconds slower than in your case.

The thing being, mine was on Normal difficulty. Four seconds between different cases of Normal and Hard in a 20+ minutes race. :confused:
 

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