Table Dancing for College Tuition?

[Der Alta]

Read this First.

Now that you read that, what are your thoughts? I'm not asking your opinion on table dancing.

Can the college ban advertisements like this even though it generates money and reduces the students expenses? Does it benefit the students? Is this guy right in recruiting talent this way?

The club owner has 20 people in this program at the moment. Is he taking advantage of situation the student is in?
How tough is his stance on the GPA?

He pays out $1500 - $2000 a year for each student. Does this really help? or do the wages of a dancer make it more profitable for both?

AO

 

[Gil]

I have some problems with it. But on the other hand, I also know people who got thru nursing school by stripping.
I do feel that this guy is pandering to the base desires of the men who frequent the clubs, and to the monetary needs/desires of the students. He is little better than a pimp.
$70 x 4 appearances + tips + $2,000 comes to $2,280 + tips.
That could come to another $1,000, perhaps.
So, that's $3,300 bucks for four trips over the border less airfare.
That's about $700 net for each trip.
I guess it depends how much your pride and self-respect are worth to you.
I would be mortified if one of the little old ladies that I'm taking care of in the hospital, started screaming, "I remember you, honey. Take it off!"

 

[Duke]

Leaving out any editorial on stripping in and of itself, I think it's a great system. "Dancers" make a serious ton of money if they are good at it - several hundred dollars in tips a night, no problem. Add in a bonus for getting good grades (with required transcripts to prove it, according to the article), and where's the harm?

On the subject of the advertisement, it depends on the nature of the newspaper. If it is University-funded, then I don't have a problem with them setting guidelines for what is considered acceptable advertising. It's their right. If it is student-run and studently funded, then the ads should stay.

 

[milefile]

Sexual morality. Bla.

It's fine. This is an example of the market working. It's good for everyone involved.

 

[Mopar Muscle]

where do i sighn up?

 

[Jpec07]

That's wrong, and MM, stop posting random stuffs...

 

[regulate]

are you tracking his posts or something?

 

[malystryx]

all you have to do is click on his name. and see the mass posts of anyone. but to the subject, if the person wants to do with their life. unless it goes against their beliefs, then it should be o.k. on the paper's side of it, if some of the students don't want that sort of thing in there then they can always let their administrator's know about their feelings.

 

[Klostrophobic]

What happened to the good old days where they stripped for the love of the game?

These new ones only care about the money. It sickens me.

 

[malystryx]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
What happened to the good old days where they stripped for the love of the game?

These new ones only care about the money. It sickens me.

lol. and what about the good old days when there was no"look but don't touch" rule. ahh good times, good times.

 

[Ellegance]

Good times are only so good. That rule has made table dancing and private dances safer, and a tad more teasing. A lot more fun too.

Klos, you pack more wisdom than your years should allow.

I'd take the money. Put me in the que behind Mopar Muscle. I see where this guy is coming from. Men are intrigued and lust after a smart, sexy intelligent woman who is focusing her attention on them. This guy has it pegged. You can go to any one of a number of clubs and see women take off their clothes. You want to draw in the big spenders, you need class. How many times have you heard the typical "I stripped my way through college"? Having educated women brings in more of a fantasy for powerful men.

Why do men like women like this? That's perhaps the bigger question.

Should/will the paper pull the advertisement? If the paper generates income from this add, and it's a real offer, they'd be stupid to pull it. It saves the students money when the ad got placed and it generates revenue for the students that take the opportunity. But they'll probably pull the ad because of a few "moral" issues that some alumnus will have.

Bleah. Some people.

malystryx: you don't strike me a man old enough to enter a strip club. And if you are, you couldn't step up and order a beer with a valid license.

 

[malystryx]

really, because i was just kidding. first off read my other posts in this thread. don't just read the last posts in each and then post. if you had you would notice that i did post something retaining to the original post. and by the way if you would have done your homework and clicked on my name you would see my birthday, which if you could do some math would let you know that i'm 26.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by malystryx
and by the way if you would have done your homework and clicked on my name you would see my birthday, which if you could do some math would let you know that i'm 26.

She didn't say you weren't old enough. She just said that you didn't strike her as someone old enough. There's a subtle but important difference...

 

[malystryx]

the first part did

 

[malystryx]

anyways let's get back to the subject so this won't get closed. also i have a friend who does dance for the money to pay for college, and she thinks the guy paying for their education would be great in her place of work. she's also asked some of her co-workers what they think of it and they are going to see if their management would go for it. kinda cool.

 

[ShobThaBob]

Its not like he's forcing anyone to. He paid for an add, and if the girls want money and can keep the grade, then I dont see what the problem is. Theres a lot of money to be made in it.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Originally posted by Ellegance
Klos, you pack more wisdom than your years should allow.

Thanks. I pack more than wisdom than my years should allow. Ahem.

Neon_duke has the correct opinion here. Anyone that disagrees is wrong.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Neon_duke has the correct opinion here. Anyone that disagrees is wrong.

Correct.

I've been to a couple of strip clubs, and I was always struck by the sheer volume of money moving from the punters to the dancers and the club.

If you read the text of the article, the guy is saying that he's paying their tuition fees on top of their standard earnings. He's therefore saying "Hey, students are young and fit, let's get some of those in". He's basically saying that he's going to give them a job with an income, and he's going to look after them. He gets their beauty and the door/drinks receipts. I do believe that it's a win/win situation as far as the club and its employees go.

Men who go into strip clubs are wilfully being ripped off, which is of course their prerogative. Strip clubs are - in general - fairly honest places, insofar as there's no pretence. It's a case of "Here, come drink gold-plated beer while women dance naked around you." Men are therefore making a conscious decision to go into the establishment which is, fundamentally, providing an honest service.

I'm in favour of it.

Having worked on a fully-independent student newspaper for two years, I would say that our group of staff would not have taken the advert on board, primarily because we would have been fearful of a female backlash against the paper. However, that would have been our choice, and I would have said that the staff would have taken that decision to protect their paper, even though they personally wouldn't have seen anything wrong with the advert.

 

[milefile]

I've been to a few strip clubs, too, and I have to say the owner of this place has got it right. I've seen old, worn out drug addicts dancing; I've seen gettho single welfare moms dancing; and I've seen confident, intelligent, articulate girls, too. Any man would rather pay to see a naked woman who is also a repectable human than someone who just can't do anything else.

Of course there are those who would say that dancing nude alone disqualifies them form "respectable human" status. But that's sexual morality and would only make this thread suck.

 

[Mopar Muscle]

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[Mopar Muscle]

Originally posted by milefile
Any man would rather pay to see a naked woman who is also a repectable human

yea, i like repectable humans too.