Tesla Master Plan: Part Deux

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Seems like it's faster than the Porsche... I think that sound I can hear coming from the internet is the Tesla Cult drowning in its own semen.
 
Danoff
...says random person with a stopwatch. I don't trust bystander timing. Waiting for an official report from Tesla, which will no doubt come if it is faster.
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I'd trust the claim. The validity of the comparison is what's going to be iffy.
 
MatskiMonk
I think that sound I can hear coming from the internet is the Tesla Cult drowning in its own semen.
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As long as it’s a prototype, the lap time will remain meaningless. Tesla knows damn well right now, a production Model S would likely shut down after 1 lap.
 
McLaren
As long as it’s a prototype, the lap time will remain meaningless. Tesla knows damn well right now, a production Model S would likely shut down after 1 lap.
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That makes Bugatti's top speed run meaningless, no? Prototype car, not available for a couple years...
 
R1600Turbo
That makes Bugatti's top speed run meaningless, no? Prototype car, not available for a couple years...
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It wasn’t a record to begin with. They just wanted to be the first manufacturer to break through 300mph. Defend Elon with somebody else.
 
McLaren
It wasn’t a record to begin with. They just wanted to be the first manufacturer to break through 300mph. Defend Elon with somebody else.
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Not defending anyone. Just telling you there's no difference. Take it or leave it.
 
Until there's video proof, I refuse to believe that the Tesla Plaid could be 20+ seconds quicker than the Taycan.
 
McLaren
Yeah bc Bugatti was brought up at all in this thread recently. :rolleyes:
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I brought it up to prove a point to all the naysayers screaming prototype. Everyone's raving about the 300 mph run in a prototype but people are all over Tesla for basically doing the same thing because "OMG Elon is such a dick". Like the guy killed your dog or something. Without him the Porsche wouldn't exist.
 
R1600Turbo
I brought it up to prove a point to all the naysayers screaming prototype. Everyone's raving about the 300 mph run in a prototype but people are all over Tesla for basically doing the same thing because "OMG Elon is such a dick". Like the guy killed your dog or something. Without him the Porsche wouldn't exist.
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Again, you can defend Elon to somebody else. The Bugatti isn’t a record-setting car and neither will the Tesla until a production model comes. Until then, Elon let his ego take a hit bc another manufacturer has jumped into his market and will possibly surpass him.
 
McLaren
Again, you can defend Elon to somebody else. The Bugatti isn’t a record-setting car and neither will the Tesla until a production model comes. Until then, Elon let his ego take a hit bc another manufacturer has jumped into his market and will possibly surpass him.
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Tesla's are mass produced, Porsches are not. There will be no surpassing. Again, without Musk and Tesla do you think the Taycan would exist right now? Highly unlikely.
 
R1600Turbo
Tesla's are mass produced, Porsches are not. There will be no surpassing. Again, without Musk and Tesla do you think the Taycan would exist right now? Highly unlikely.
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That’s not what I mean. Porsche has the network to make an electric only vehicle as successful as Elon’s and he doesn’t like that.

Who gives a rat’s ass about who wouldn’t be here without the other.
 
- Public days/industry pool days aren’t full laps of the Nurburgring. They’re most likely bridge to gantry laps

- Bridge to gantry laps are usually 20 to 25 seconds faster than full laps

So Tesla stripped everything out of their car, gave it semi-slicks, another motor, and a wing for this, but going by all of this info, it’d be theoretically slower if it were a full lap
 
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TS050
- Public days/industry pool days aren’t full laps of the Nurburgring. They’re most likely bridge to gantry laps

- Bridge to gantry laps are usually 20 to 25 seconds slower than full laps
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Did you mean "faster" here? One presumes a shorter track would yield faster times.
 
McLaren
That’s not what I mean. Porsche has the network to make an electric only vehicle as successful as Elon’s and he doesn’t like that.

Who gives a rat’s ass about who wouldn’t be here without the other.
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Tesla's patents are out in the open for anyone to feed off of. I highly doubt they care. It's not like they threw these cars together when the news of the Taycan lap time hit. Takes a while to put a prototype together. Let alone 2 or 3. It's pretty evident that this 3 motor car had been planned for some time. People just being crabby because it's fun or something.
 
R1600Turbo
Tesla's patents are out in the open for anyone to feed off of. I highly doubt they care. It's not like they threw these cars together when the news of the Taycan lap time hit. Takes a while to put a prototype together. Let alone 2 or 3. It's pretty evident that this 3 motor car had been planned for some time. People just being crabby because it's fun or something.
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As I mentioned before, the Taycan has been known about for quite a long time. So it could be entirely responsive.
 
R1600Turbo
:rolleyes:
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You've seen Tesla's build quality right? It's so hit and miss that it wouldn't surprise me to see a car leave the factory with duct tape on it.

R1600Turbo
Without him the Porsche wouldn't exist.
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That's a bold claim. Tesla is hardly innovative when it comes to the method of powering vehicles. The Model S first hit the market for the 2013 model year. The Nissan Leaf was already 3 years old at that point and hybrid technology was working its way into everything. It was only a matter of time before cars with longer ranges and more luxury features hit the market. Tesla just happened to capitalize on it first, but in no way did it start a trend.

Also VW, and association Porsche, is one of the world's biggest automakers. To think they wouldn't have eventually built its own electric car is a bit strange. The world is going that way and it was set off by countries starting to care more about emissions and rising oil prices.
 
Joey D
That's a bold claim.
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It's also one easily made because we don't have access to a control reality wherein electric vehicles are normal (or at bare minimum very rapidly approaching normal) and Musk hasn't been a driving force. Any attempt to pick at it requires hypotheticals, but then it hinges upon hypotheticals as well.
 
Joey D
It was only a matter of time before cars with longer ranges and more luxury features hit the market. Tesla just happened to capitalize on it first, but in no way did it start a trend
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Let's be honest here, the popularity of the electric car didn't really start to take off until the Model S was released, and made a statement. Now Tesla's rapid expansion has other automakers catching up, which is good for all parties and part of the reason cars like the Taycan came into existence.
 
R1600Turbo
Let's be honest here, the popularity of the electric car didn't really start to take off until the Model S was released, and made a statement. Now Tesla's rapid expansion has other automakers catching up, which is good for all parties and part of the reason cars like the Taycan came into existence.
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Well that's certainly more honest than the earlier [and I'm paraphrasing here] "it wouldn't have happened without him".
 
R1600Turbo
Let's be honest here, the popularity of the electric car didn't really start to take off until the Model S was released, and made a statement. Now Tesla's rapid expansion has other automakers catching up, which is good for all parties and part of the reason cars like the Taycan came into existence.
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Are you sure the market wasn't just ready for a mass market electric car and Tesla happened to be first? I don't believe for a second Tesla paved the way for anything. Nor do I think it spurred on other car companies outside a few upstarts. Toyota, Nissan, and even GM were working on electric vehicles well before Tesla hit the market.
 

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