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@Greycap Did you try it? At first glance, I would guess that the angle-to-horizon of the mount is going to be all kinds of wrong running it backwards, but I could be wrong.

I don't have a classic bike and I kind of want one. Anyone know about Lemond bikes? This seems like a stonking great deal for an 853 frame & ultegra build, even if it is older.


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Did you try it? At first glance, I would guess that the angle-to-horizon of the mount is going to be all kinds of wrong running it backwards, but I could be wrong.
I did indeed, and in this particular case you're wrong - the adjustment range of that post model is so crazily wide that there's probably a good five degrees or so of it still left. There's no way a two-bolt head (which is completely superior in every other scenario) could be used like that but this one actually works. Whether it looks weird or not is naturally in the eye of the beholder but I don't think it's THAT bad. The picture taken on my favourite photo bridge, it's wide enough to allow a 70 mm lens being used instead of the normal 24mm to reduce fisheyeing and has a nicely calm background.

And even if I say it myself, this, people, is how a bike that has done 13 years and probably closer to 10.000 miles, and has had every single part except the frame changed at least once, can still look when it has had a lot of thought put into it and I'm certainly proud of it even after all these years - in fact even more now than when it was new. Several people have asked if it's one of the 650B semi plus sized models, no, it's a very old school 26er but looks pretty proportionate thanks to the slenderly built frame and the relatively slack head tube for its era.

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This is probably the most entertaining time trial I've seen. These 4 guys...

Remco looks like he was engineered for time trials.
 
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Well, I got it. It's a 2000 model with ultegra and (as a surprise to me) a triple up front. The colorway just looks so right. I bought it from the original owner (who is now 85!) and he even included all the original paperwork. He says he switched to an e-bike (with the terrain around here, I can't blame him). It's in terrific shape aside from a few marks in the paint and the shifter for the rear mech isn't working. I'm not sure if the cable is detached in the shifter housing or if something is truly broken, but it will not shift to bigger cogs. I've tossed around the idea of a single speed conversion, but the triple is somehow endearing of the era, so I think I'll just get it working and enjoy it as is. It's about the same weight as my Ti Gravel bike, so I'd say pretty good for steel.

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I'm not sure if the cable is detached in the shifter housing or if something is truly broken, but it will not shift to bigger cogs.
So do you mean it's shifting on the smaller cogs of the cassette? If so you would think the cable isn't broken and if you're lucky if may be just the limit screws set incorrectly into the larger cogs.

If it was me if it's unknown on a bike of that age I'd probably change the the housings and cables.

Either way nice bike, I'm a sucker for steel bikes and the older ones just have something about them 👍.
 
Been riding the LeMond for a few days and I must say the characteristics of a steel frame come through much clearer on 23mm tires than they do on 2.3" tires at 20psi. :lol: The bike is beautifully smooth and composed but still fairly sharp. It's not the super snappy bike that my CAAD12 is but it's definitely no slouch. The bike also feels remarkably tight for a 24 year old bike...less creaks the Cannondale, that's for sure!

I'm going to leave it as is and enjoy it. It's genuinely a lovely thing to commute on or go for an impromptu ride. I still can't believe it was only $300. Somebody is selling a set of Rolf Vector Comps, the same ones on my bike, on the same classifieds for $360...


LeTour - This tour continues to deliver, this stage 11 was nuts! Jonas is certainly not in poor form, that's for sure.
 
A proper demonstration today on stage 14 by UAE. Such a strong move to send Yates up the road for Tadej to bridge up to before hammering to the finish. I feel like Tadej often will put himself in a poor position and drag Jonas along with him, but this was smart racing.

I'm truly impressed that Remco has not imploded on the big climbs yet. I thought surely he would be out of the top 10 by now. I hope he manages to stay with Tadej and Jonas long enough to make things interesting on a breakaway stage and/or time trial.
 
The specter of blood doping is once again floating around the TDF:

 
That article was written by the same kind of idiots who think $700 jockey wheels are an awesome upgrade.
 
If a very small amount of CO is a problem because it (perhaps) tricks the body to produce more red blood cells, why isn't high altitude training similarly suspicious? It does the exact same thing... my best bet is it's because the complainers haven't thought of it themselves.
 
How about Remco having a flat, not getting a bike immediately, but going on to win the road race so convincingly that he could dismount the bike at the finish and pose in front of the eiffel tower?

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Couple that with the double gold for winning the TT. I know Poggy and Jonas aren't there, but that's way cool.
 
How about Remco having a flat, not getting a bike immediately, but going on to win the road race so convincingly that he could dismount the bike at the finish and pose in front of the eiffel tower?

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Couple that with the double gold for winning the TT. I know Poggy and Jonas aren't there, but that's way cool.
Remco made the rest of the field look like amateurs - a remarkable feat considering WVA & MVDP were in it - the guy is untouchable when he gets in time trial mode. ONE day (hopefully the World Championship this year) I want to see Remco and Tadej slug it out in a one day race where neither one of them crashes out. Tadej has a clear advantage in the mountains, but on a flatter one-day race it could be quite a race.

How about Kristen Faulkner absolutely stomping the field in the women's race though? What a ****ing ride - one of the most exciting one day races I've seen. At first it seemed as though Vos & Vas had it in the bag...then it was maybe maybe maybe for Kopecky & Faulkner to catch them...then it was like - this will be an interesting sprint....then it was like powerrrrrrr. Only wish she had given some kind of victory salute at the line...maybe not as gratuitous as Remco's...but apparently she couldn't or didn't believe she had actually won.

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Well, if Chloe Dygert didn't get crashed out, she probably would have won. She climbed all the way back to 15th after getting wrecked. USA Cycling is actually super strong... just gotta find these chicks from other sports and put them on bikes. Faulkner's story is so awesome. Couldn't have picked a better person to represent the USA and win the gold.
 
I got some arch support insoles for the Sidis and holy crap what a huge difference.

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The plastic shank bit is perfect for a cycling shoe. I hated the Sidis for 2-bolt riding because they were nowhere near as comfortable as my Lakes. But because they're Megas, there's plenty of volume in there to accommodate something like this. If you guys aren't riding in an orthotic or at least a supportive insole when you ought to be, I can't stress how big of a difference it makes.
 
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I've been using the specialized body geometry insoles for years now. I get crazy hot spots and sore arches without them because I have draft-dodging caliber flat feet.
 
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[warning - boring technical stuff ahead]

While I was out riding a few nights ago it occurred to me, with not an insignificant amount of sadness, that the bike I've built over the last four years will be my last for a long time by the look of things. It's my third 29er hardtail, each successively better than the previous one, and the road ends here. It looks like there won't be any more of its kind.

Coming from a long family line of hardtail XC bikes descending from the Specialized Stumpjumper of 1981, the world's first mass produced mountain bike (I also have the last Stumpjumper HT generation) it's the last one of its breed as properly quick hardtails are going the way of dodos just about right now. Very few models are anymore available with thru axles, Boost hub spacing, lightweight frames - the stuff that is standard in every other genre, but not hardtails. In a few years most, if not all, that are left are entry level models with quick releases, 2x8 drivetrains and so on, ie. technology from nearly two decades ago. Anyone who wants a quick mountain bike has to buy a full suspension model that is heavier, more complex, more expensive and often wholly unnecessary, and those who want a quick off-road bike that doesn't have full suspension have little choice but gravel bikes with their fetal riding position that definitely isn't for everyone.

I guess that's how the market, or probably more like marketing, works. People are sold images and at the moment you're not a mountain biker unless you have at least 160 mm of travel, preferably in an e-bike with more power than the dirt bikes of old, and the gravel bike is the ultimate tool that does everything from downhill trails with rocks big as sheep to winning the Tour de France. Of course none of that holds true and for a lot of people the lightweight hardtail would be the best option but it has dropped completely off the radar.

The gravel bike in particular is a bit of an odd concept, especially as it's sold a lot to beginners. The chainrings are basically straight off a road bike which means that nobody without a lot of training already done has power to push the big ring on the higher half of the cassette, while the cassette itself is often a wide range model to give adequate climbing gears which then leads to large cadence jumps. Add to that the narrow road spec bar that is probably chosen for aerodynamics but is anything but confidence inspiring on rougher roads - and the advantage is lost anyway with the rolling resistance of gravel tyres (and the gravel itself) effectively preventing the speeds in which it would be beneficial. A lot of it just doesn't make sense and usability could be hugely improved by relatively small changes but again, people are sold images. If the image requires 50/34T chainrings (big rings = going fast) with a 11-36 cassette (big cogs = climbs well) and a 38 cm handlebar (narrow = fast), that's what is getting fitted even if a 38/24T combination (if you spin a 38-11 gear out you're going plenty fast already) with a 11-28 cassette for nice small cadence changes (and actually a much lower first gear than the 34-36) and a 46 cm bar for stability would make it a lot more functional.
 
My gravel bike has more MTB like geometry and a 40T chainring and 11-46 cassette, which is particularly useful for the steep **** around here. It's fantastic at climbing, but even with the flared "gravel drops" I hate descending on it - road type handlebars are just simply not good at technical offroad descents, no matter how many tricks they have implemented. Even though it's fully rigid and has a goofy cockpit, my Soma Riff MTB is a far, far more capable descender than my Ribble with the Strava times to prove it.

I wonder how long the BMC Twostroke is for this world, because that thing is a pretty rad hardtail and oh wow it's on sale for under $2k with a carbon frame. I think that kinda says it all about hardtails...nobody is buying them.
 
It's fantastic at climbing, but even with the flared "gravel drops" I hate descending on it - road type handlebars are just simply not good at technical offroad descents, no matter how many tricks they have implemented.
That's real life experience talking, and Ribble's marketing says it can be used for "the most epic of off-road adventures". Yeah right... well, depends on the rider of course. I had the cyclocross bike years ago and it was simply terrifying for anything else than seated pedalling on mostly flat ground. Sprinting out of the saddle with the CoG so far forward that it felt like I was going to OTB by just leaning forward, and the very narrow bar didn't help as there was basically no lateral support. Any downhill was the same, but even worse with the front end being lower of course. It had the classic cyclocross gearing of 46/36T chainrings with a 11-28 cassette, in other words the big ring wasn't all that useful and the small one still didn't give proper uphill gears. Perhaps it could have worked with a 38T 1x system and a wider cassette, and wider bars on a shorter stem. Perhaps, while costing quite a bit of money to modify.

In the end I sold it and bought a new better hardtail which is easily faster anywhere but on a road so smooth that it could just as well be ridden on a proper road bike.
 
That's cause all these bikes are made for tiny chinese dudes and then scaled to western sizes and it doesn't work. It's like having a size 18 chuck taylor that's just as skinny as the size 8. Just doesn't work like that. I kind of laugh at my "gravel" bike because the position is comfortable for road use but the toe overlap is so crazy that I would be a fool to take it on anything any more extreme than our local flat limestone levee greenways.
 
That's real life experience talking, and Ribble's marketing says it can be used for "the most epic of off-road adventures". Yeah right... well, depends on the rider of course. I had the cyclocross bike years ago and it was simply terrifying for anything else than seated pedalling on mostly flat ground. Sprinting out of the saddle with the CoG so far forward that it felt like I was going to OTB by just leaning forward, and the very narrow bar didn't help as there was basically no lateral support. Any downhill was the same, but even worse with the front end being lower of course. It had the classic cyclocross gearing of 46/36T chainrings with a 11-28 cassette, in other words the big ring wasn't all that useful and the small one still didn't give proper uphill gears. Perhaps it could have worked with a 38T 1x system and a wider cassette, and wider bars on a shorter stem. Perhaps, while costing quite a bit of money to modify.

In the end I sold it and bought a new better hardtail which is easily faster anywhere but on a road so smooth that it could just as well be ridden on a proper road bike.
To be fair - I think "gravel bikes" have been sort of misappropriated or in the very least oversold. They are good at something and that something is events like Unbound where the characteristics of a gravel bike (comfort-oriented, moderate off road ability, moderate efficiency & aero) are actually useful and objectively superior to a mountain bike (far better efficiency & aerodynamics), cross bike (much more relaxed, stable, and supple) or road bike (much more capable) in that setting - namely an all-day ride on light to moderate gravel roads.

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The other thing they are good at, and where I get the most use out of mine, is ride to the ride. I could load up my Honda with my MTB but there's something satisfying about putting in the miles (on road) to get to the trail and/or fire road. This can also be done on a MTB but depending on how far you need to go, it could be a pretty unpleasant experience.

I definitely need a proper mountain bike.
 
I'm a mountain biker first and foremost but bought a gravel bike a few years ago to fill in the gaps on days I don't mountain bike. I live near many dirt/gravel trails where using a mountain bike is of course an option (and something I did often before) but they're heavy and not geared for speed. Gravel bike let's me effortlessly do long distances. Not to mention it's a great bike to hop on right from my garage to go anywhere I please without driving.

Gravel bike was also great at an event I did last year that was half road riding and half gravel roads. Many competitors were using road bikes, but I imagine the dirt sections were painful, meanwhile on a gravel bike you'll be moderately comfortable the whole ride, dirt or road.
 

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