THE CHALLENGE HUB, CHALLENGE COMPLETE

[smoothbore12]

The AI manner is like a double axe ,if they was running the faster they can each time then your chances to win will be very limited , they just adapt to the way the player runs somehow.

On the other side is way awkward to be able to win over monsters .
Also there's not any adjustment on AI behaviour or aggressiveness and is familiar to the game to make the AI slow down a lot on last lap ,i remember a past challenge with alpine when on second lap end was 20sec behind at la sarthe and at the end of 3rd and final lap i was able to catch him.

Back to ours now and the slow train coming which refuses to brake the 251 khm on Spa ,loaded or not.
I put an empty weight lap to see how faster this can go and i keep the lap as ghost reference at 20.513 .
Then i loaded the 75 kilos and start the chase .
From this session the verdict was that a gain of 4-5 sec. can be done lapping at 21 low or even lower for 1-2 laps.

Here is my lap at 2.20.223


The miss of the two apex deffinetly cost the entry at 19s high but am not complaining.

 

[CozmicDragon]

An old timer challenges the big boys!

I must admit, I wasn't expecting to win the last one (and get second place overall if you count both divisions). I didn't think my time was that fast. I'm actually surprised no one got a sub-1 minute. It seemed possible to me.

Anyway, onto the challenge at hand, and oh boy. This is not a good car. At all.

Before we start, let me tell you that I ran into a glitch just before attempting the challenge. I bought Sports Hards for my Isuzu, and the game decided that my car was tuned and couldn't enter the event, just because of the new tires. I had to switch to Comfort Softs, then back to Sports Hards, to get the game to allow me to enter with the necessary tires.

I decided to try the run without SRF, as it would serve as practice for the Guns and Roses invitational I intended to do next, but quickly realized it would get me nowhere fast, so I turned it back on. And even with it, this was a tough race.

The Isuzu can do most of the corners in Trial Mountain on third gear, around 100 km/h, sometimes a little faster. Letting the car glide through the turns with little or no accelerator input seems to work well with this car. If you can get to second place on Lap 3, and have the entire last lap on clean air, beating the GT-R is possible, but unfortunately, I couldn't do it for now.

I'll probably try and cheese this one later by resetting until the GT-R doesn't show up, but for now, since I don't have too much time to spend on this (my mother is away on a business trip until the end of the week, so I have to take care of the house and don't have too much free time to play), this is mostly a benchmark run. My best time so far was a 7:32.923.

And now...

We've got guns, roses, and 476 prancing horses!

Ah, Silverstone. I have a love-hate relationship with this track.

Being the International layout, the one I drove the least on, and on top of it all being my first time doing any serious racing with SRF turned off, I expected to do terribly here. But actually, it wasn't so bad.

The California is a lot faster than it looks. It's definitely at a disadvantage in terms of weight, but it can definitely win races here. I already owned a Cali, but it was tuned for hotlaps that I do for practice every now and then, so to ensure I didn't mess up anything, I bought a second one, which I used for this challenge.

I tried, but Turn 4 seems impossible to do on third gear for me, at least with SRF off. A more skilled driver can probably do it in third gear, but I needed second to get the nose in. Usually, if I can get past the Fiorano before the end of Lap 1, I'm usually on pace for a decent run. Usually, getting a good time involves passing the lead Huayra into or before Stowe on Lap 3. With SRF off, it's important to avoid contact with the AI as much as possible, as the car tends to get loose if you rub against their side a little too hard.

Again, this is mostly a benchmark run as I don't have too much time to play right now, and I don't even know if it's a good time or not, since apparently no one has done this particular challenge yet, but my best time so far was a 3:30.880. Satisfactory for now, but I can definitely do better.

 

[smoothbore12]

Well done @CozmicDragon , congrats for your no tune win.
It happens to me also the Isuzu glitch and i buy a new one to enter.
As for the Isuzu can run way faster since the use of brakes is very limited , except long straight everywhere else need just a small " tap " or a single lift of on throttle .

As for guns and roses we're excactly in the same boat , my laps was between 1.09 and 1.10 .

PS
Boy you should make your apperiance more often , i like the way you write ( and am not the only one for sure)
Its something with different " air " and very elegant too.
Glad to see you again

 

[paddycars1]

Sorry for the absence guys I'll get a few laps tomorrow sweet
Ko's

 

[Thematic]

Bear with me, this is a batch.

53./No Tune
Total [7:34.853]

There's another GT-R here. No, not the Bellett.
CHIC
Total [11:47.366]


UI/Guns and Roses
Total [3:29.559]

I don't have a lot to say about most or any "FR" cars, they are of course varied within the group but... why power steering exists, I guess. I should try again to shed a couple of seconds.
As for roses, the FXX colour is all I got.
Knockouts
Total [1:09.137]

Before I even knew what this mission was about, I was thinking about going gold minus 1 second. So. That would be a negative/nay!
(picture shows my previous time of 1:09.319 so...)
At least I improved, but I was doing exclusively over 70 second runs before that.




Not groovy.

(Results END)
--

After all that I took the 458 to Sarthe. I guess unca Bob drove or airlifted it from Chamonix or something, because it took the system 42 minutes of twiddle from the venue menu to the track. Maybe that nonsense had me iceskate uphill, for it took me a number of retries to even get to lap 2.

Finally I got to the finish line after a spin just 300 meters prior, but when I watched the replay, my car's right front *corner* met briefly with the FXX left rear *corner*, which made no sound in the game, but in the relevant picture the car models are overlapping by a few finger widths. Iow. the bounding boxes, however many were involved, did not register any contact.

I have the _replay file_, in fact I'm prone to share it and any other GT6 replays, ghost or no.

 

[bjl23]

An old timer challenges the big boys!

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I must admit, I wasn't expecting to win the last one (and get second place overall if you count both divisions). I didn't think my time was that fast. I'm actually surprised no one got a sub-1 minute. It seemed possible to me.

Anyway, onto the challenge at hand, and oh boy. This is not a good car. At all.

Before we start, let me tell you that I ran into a glitch just before attempting the challenge. I bought Sports Hards for my Isuzu, and the game decided that my car was tuned and couldn't enter the event, just because of the new tires. I had to switch to Comfort Softs, then back to Sports Hards, to get the game to allow me to enter with the necessary tires.

I decided to try the run without SRF, as it would serve as practice for the Guns and Roses invitational I intended to do next, but quickly realized it would get me nowhere fast, so I turned it back on. And even with it, this was a tough race.

The Isuzu can do most of the corners in Trial Mountain on third gear, around 100 km/h, sometimes a little faster. Letting the car glide through the turns with little or no accelerator input seems to work well with this car. If you can get to second place on Lap 3, and have the entire last lap on clean air, beating the GT-R is possible, but unfortunately, I couldn't do it for now.

I'll probably try and cheese this one later by resetting until the GT-R doesn't show up, but for now, since I don't have too much time to spend on this (my mother is away on a business trip until the end of the week, so I have to take care of the house and don't have too much free time to play), this is mostly a benchmark run. My best time so far was a 7:32.923.

View attachment 892171

And now...

We've got guns, roses, and 476 prancing horses!

View attachment 892172

Ah, Silverstone. I have a love-hate relationship with this track.

Being the International layout, the one I drove the least on, and on top of it all being my first time doing any serious racing with SRF turned off, I expected to do terribly here. But actually, it wasn't so bad.

The California is a lot faster than it looks. It's definitely at a disadvantage in terms of weight, but it can definitely win races here. I already owned a Cali, but it was tuned for hotlaps that I do for practice every now and then, so to ensure I didn't mess up anything, I bought a second one, which I used for this challenge.

I tried, but Turn 4 seems impossible to do on third gear for me, at least with SRF off. A more skilled driver can probably do it in third gear, but I needed second to get the nose in. Usually, if I can get past the Fiorano before the end of Lap 1, I'm usually on pace for a decent run. Usually, getting a good time involves passing the lead Huayra into or before Stowe on Lap 3. With SRF off, it's important to avoid contact with the AI as much as possible, as the car tends to get loose if you rub against their side a little too hard.

Again, this is mostly a benchmark run as I don't have too much time to play right now, and I don't even know if it's a good time or not, since apparently no one has done this particular challenge yet, but my best time so far was a 3:30.880. Satisfactory for now, but I can definitely do better.

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Love the write up again mate and nice work, like @smoothbore12 said, it would be great to see you in here more. Weather that updating your times or even just popping in and saying hello, as you bring a real enthusiasm to the hub.

Bear with me, this is a batch.

53./No Tune
Total [7:34.853]
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There's another GT-R here. No, not the Bellett.
CHIC
Total [11:47.366]
View attachment 892285

UI/Guns and Roses
Total [3:29.559]
View attachment 892284
I don't have a lot to say about most or any "FR" cars, they are of course varied within the group but... why power steering exists, I guess. I should try again to shed a couple of seconds.
As for roses, the FXX colour is all I got.
Knockouts
Total [1:09.137]
View attachment 892283
Before I even knew what this mission was about, I was thinking about going gold minus 1 second. So. That would be a negative/nay!
(picture shows my previous time of 1:09.319 so...)
At least I improved, but I was doing exclusively over 70 second runs before that.

View attachment 892286

View attachment 892287
Not groovy.

(Results END)
--

After all that I took the 459 (?) to Sarthe. I guess unca Bob drove or airlifted it from Chamonix or something, because it took the system 42 minutes of twiddle from the venue menu to the track. Maybe that nonsense had me iceskate uphill, for it took me a number of retries to even get to lap 2.

Finally I got to the finish line after a spin just 300 meters prior, but when I watched the replay, my car's right front *corner* met briefly with the FXX left rear *corner*, which made no sound in the game, but in the relevant picture the car models are overlapping by a few finger widths. Iow. the bounding boxes, however many were involved, did not register any contact.

I have the _replay file_, in fact I'm prone to share it and any other GT6 replays, ghost or no.

Nice work mate, the GTR isn't quite the GTR needed the for trophy but nice try , try and beat the R35 GTR.

I like the photo with the Audi, as it shows I wasn't the only one to take it for a 'spin'. Your in a good position on the leader board with that time.

 

[smoothbore12]

Oh boy , " The Saint " really is in charge this round and is in the lead of Chic with the good morning.
Nice to see the competition heating up .

Yesterday was time to take my gun and see if i can smell the roses .
When i design this i knew that we all be close ,the short layout , the fact that California wasn't that bad without
SRF and the fast AI leave no room for huge difference .
Although i don't know how fair is the SM tyres for div 1.
When i saw @CozmicDragon result .comes to my mind that i was lapping also about 3.30 plus with best at 1.09 mids.
So i " load " and give the yellow rose a ride ..... It was quite tough .
Need to study the opponent's where and how to pass them and if i can gain some sleepstreming to close the gap.
Most difficult part was the fast right curve before the straight who leads to the pits.
When i was free air was ok but that never happens at least in first two laps and normally was loosing much speed or i wasn't able to dive at the inside and sliding allover the place with the AI passes me again.
To cut a long story short this was the best that i got.

Ill try it again with other line up to see if i can get more free air or less cars at Stowe curve.

 

[bjl23]

I did the mission race and I thought I took a photo but apparently my phone says I didn't , I was only a 1:10 so no big lose.

GUNS AND ROSES
I used no aids except for ABS and the car handled a lot better then I thought it was going to, great in fact. Not bad for a 'daily drive' car (in game words)

Great event @smoothbore12

 

[smoothbore12]

I did the mission race and I thought I took a photo but apparently my phone says I didn't , I was only a 1:10 so no big lose.

GUNS AND ROSES
I used no aids except for ABS and the car handled a lot better then I thought it was going to, great in fact. Not bad for a 'daily drive' car (in game words)
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Great event @smoothbore12

Thanks mate ,the truth is that didn't expect to be so interesting but the fact is that we're all very close and the no use of SRF make it even more interesting and seems we all have adapted quite well.
Still i use TC on her cause i hate the slides on low gears or should i say : i can't control her?

By the way didn't want to leave @Thematic without " answer " at Spa resort so i reload again.
First lap wasn't quite good ( 2.23 mid and i had and good sleepstreming ) but decided to keep on .
At the end was like this

Still a small room for improvement is there since i do lap everywhere ,2.20....2.21...2.22 .
Delay the breaking in certain points can make the difference and i think can shave 2 sec. more from where i stand now especially if i can get sleepstreming on both two laps and of course don't faq up the brakes .
Totally different from 250 and 280khm at Kemmel straight.

 

[skeagracing]

For the new SkeagRacingSchool, make sure that you are using Racing Soft on the 458 Italia at Circuit de La Sarthe. All tuning and assists allowed and RS tyres a must plus Ferrari FXX must be in the line up

PLEASE SEND YOUR REPLAYS TO SKEAGRACING DISPLAYING ALL INSTRUMENTS AND IN "REPLAY VIEW".

Thank you,

Noel

 

[paddycars1]

Guns and Roses

chic

ko's

no tune

 

[RMan72]

Hi guys,

I had a go at Noel's school but wasn't loving the racing soft tyres so I put a set of sport softs on adjusted the traction control and ABS to 1 and took the 458 for a drive through the puddles and spray.

I will revisit the class once I've fathomed out how to drive her on racing softs

Tune and aids are shown at the end of the video



As Noel said RS tyres must be used for entry into Class #25

👍

 

[paddycars1]

Chic
SRF on.

 

[bjl23]

Chic
SRF on.View attachment 892491View attachment 892527

Something off topic,
I'm at the Adelaide 500 for the next 4 days and here's my view and Isaac.

 

[nostradavor2]

Good vibes in the hub lately
Hugh, Paddy, Bryce 👍👍
Going to sleep now.. it's 2am..dont know what am doing up
Can't wait to have few races.. Cheers guys

 

[bjl23]

 

[smoothbore12]

Chic
SRF on.View attachment 892491View attachment 892527

How the 🤬 x:censored: did you run at 2.18 - 2.17 on SS tyres ?!!!!!

@bjl23 have a good time and noisy one .

No tune update ( perhaps and the last one )

Edit
The Guns and roses is freaking me out , i run on FXX line up and i can't pass from the inside the 🤬 🤬 GTR at Stowe $#@$\%#$#@# faq . Always ruin my lap there for Christ sake

 

[CozmicDragon]

Round Two, FIGHT!

We return to Trial Mountain for another go at the No Tune challenge. This time, I decided to turn off the driving line and let the AI guide me on learning the track. And improvements started coming almost straight away.

I quickly realized that by staying all the way to the right, the Isuzu can make turn 1 and the final corner flat-out without a problem. I got lucky to get a grid without the GT-R this time, and managed to get to first place before the end of Lap 3, getting an entire lap on clean air.

I decided to try and keep my apex speed as high as possible through the corners. Although this usually causes a few problems with the AI, such as one time where the Evo 6 spun me out, ruining my run, or when the M3 decides to park the bus in Turn 5 and stop me dead in my tracks. But with a little determination, everything works out.

After a few runs, I got a much more respectable time of 7:23.576. I might do another run after this, but I'm not entirely sure.

If the picture is unreadable, I'm sorry. I experimented a bit to see if I could take a picture without having to hold my TV in place. Hopefully this is the last challenge I'll have to do with the laptop camera, as I can try and get a phone for myself next month, which should make things a lot smoother.

 

[bjl23]

@CozmicDragon with that time you should be able to beat the GTR and get yourself another trophy.

PS I can hold the Isuzu flat though the first 3 corners.

 

[skeagracing]

I have been asked about the rain tires and here is my response. The rain tire was never developed for GT6. This was told to me by a guy who worked on the development of the game. He went on to say that the best tire for rain is the RS tire and I agree as when I got the game and went to the rain part I tried every one of the rain tires and all were a bust. As soon as I put the RS tires like he said I won running away.

 

[bjl23]

Day 2

 

[Thematic]

I have been asked about the rain tires and here is my response. The rain tire was never developed for GT6. This was told to me by a guy who worked on the development of the game. He went on to say that the best tire for rain is the RS tire and I agree as when I got the game and went to the rain part I tried every one of the rain tires and all were a bust. As soon as I put the RS tires like he said I won running away.

In career mode this is true. But if you pick a weather track (except Willow since it won't have water) in I think any game mode that lets you choose a track, you get to set the surface model to "Real" and then all the Racing tyres become quite different. So when online was still an option, it could be either "Low" or "Real" (I don't remember but guess that Quick Matches did not use the latter).

 

[smoothbore12]

Day 2

Have fun Bryce .
Very funny passing the super trucks ,at 3 wheels.

 

[bjl23]

Have fun Bryce .
Very funny passing the super trucks ,at 3 wheels.

They do jumps to.

 

[nostradavor2]

cmon guys.. get serious in our battle
I have ~0.5 spare on this but hope that wont need to do it again

also my standard weekly offtopic.. after positions 5,6 and 5 am currently on p1 in grid weekly.. also some spare time also hope not to driv3 it again but any advice is welcome

 

[skeagracing]

In career mode this is true. But if you pick a weather track (except Willow since it won't have water) in I think any game mode that lets you choose a track, you get to set the surface model to "Real" and then all the Racing tyres become quite different. So when online was still an option, it could be either "Low" or "Real" (I don't remember but guess that Quick Matches did not use the latter).

You are correct:tup:!

 

[smoothbore12]

Finally we settle the issue of priority among me and the GTR at Stowe curve , although am not able to run the yellow lady without TC and put a decent lap

Guns and roses

Passing the FXX on brakes at Village help to not overtake me again in Hangar straight and with free air at Stowe i just wave him the " handkerchief " .

 

[Thematic]

53./No Tune

I got that GT-R on grid at Trial Mountain now. On race one I got a dramatic demonstration of game mechanics as it went very/dangerously slowly just before the long tunnel, then shrinking very quickly on the straight, even vanishing for a couple of seconds behind the hill, and in the next corner its pace gone, as if its engine stalled (though there's no clutch pedal is there, hmm).

But in the last and quickest race I had a 2.4 second gap left at lap three T2. First pass was at 8 seconds into lap four, a right hand side overtake which was technically out of bounds. Then after the corner there almost lost control because of extreme speed and the outer rumble strip: front right tyre overheated before reaching that boundary. Such events are less likely with comfort tyres.

Still first, the gap was now 1.362 s at T1, and at T2 still over 1.2 s. The GT-R pulled alongside before we crested the hill. GT-R went upto 207 km/h, Isuzu did 172 that time. Retook 1st position in the corner with the yellow markings, left side. A few hundred meters on we changed places twice, and T3 gap was 1.362 seconds. Imagine that. Ichikawa might be an actual surgeon. GT-R went past on the straight leading to the chicane, and the cars were almost side by side in it, though the monster kept ahead and yes, went full throttle, as far as the game replay reveals it, from under the first bridge after the chicane to finish.

107.4 km on odometer, so either that's how much I did here (all full races), or maybe within a few percent of that.
Total [7:27.046]

 

[bjl23]

I got that GT-R on grid at Trial Mountain now. On race one I got a dramatic demonstration of game mechanics as it went very/dangerously slowly just before the long tunnel, then shrinking very quickly on the straight, even vanishing for a couple of seconds behind the hill, and in the next corner its pace gone, as if its engine stalled (though there's no clutch pedal is there, hmm).

But in the last and quickest race I had a 2.4 second gap left at lap three T2. First pass was at 8 seconds into lap four, a right hand side overtake which was technically out of bounds. Then after the corner there almost lost control because of extreme speed and the outer rumble strip: front right tyre overheated before reaching that boundary. Such events are less likely with comfort tyres.

Still first, the gap was now 1.362 s at T1, and at T2 still over 1.2 s. The GT-R pulled alongside before we crested the hill. GT-R went upto 207 km/h, Isuzu did 172 that time. Retook 1st position in the corner with the yellow markings, left side. A few hundred meters on we changed places twice, and T3 gap was 1.362 seconds. Imagine that. Ichikawa might be an actual surgeon. GT-R went past on the straight leading to the chicane, and the cars were almost side by side in it, though the monster kept ahead and yes, went full throttle, as far as the game replay reveals it, from under the first bridge after the chicane to finish.

107.4 km on odometer, so either that's how much I did here (all full races), or maybe within a few percent of that.
Total [7:27.046]

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If you block the GTR on the straight on the last lap you will win.
BLOCK MATE BLOCK

 

[Thematic]

If you block the GTR on the straight on the last lap you will win.
BLOCK MATE BLOCK

OR I end up hitting the right or even left barrier, as happened at least once with other cars there.