The Easiest Ways to Make Money and XP in Gran Turismo Sport

[Famine]

I've been using the R18 '11 a lot (because it was there, and has 900hp), but I'm still really confused about the clean race bonus in this race.

I did one last night where a TS050 battered me to the inside of Lesmo 1 - not far enough to go four-wheels off (because barrier), but a hard hit and a good cut - and with only a couple of other occasions where I was even two-wheels off, one between the Lesmos, and one on the inside exit at Ascari, I got the clean race bonus. The previous race the night before had zero contact with any kerb and a bit of a tag from the TS050 at della Roggia (he put his nose into my rear quarter), no clean race bonus.

It definitely looks like you can't go four-wheels onto the kerbs between and at the exit of the Lesmos, and there's a tight limit on the inside and outside leaving Ascari, but otherwise I'm flummoxed.

 

[Danyutz]

I'm also curious how the system "calculates" the hits from AI cars as I've been in your position as well.

Tbh, I've tried overtaking on the straights only, so I could avoid any shunts.

Not sure why I keep trying and pushing for each lap, since I don't have to prove anything

 

[floydant]

I'm also curious how the system "calculates" the hits from AI cars as I've been in your position as well.

Tbh, I've tried overtaking on the straights only, so I could avoid any shunts.

Not sure why I keep trying and pushing for each lap, since I don't have to prove anything

Yesterday on the BMB I tried squeezing through a rapidly shrinking gap between an Aston and wall, I failed, got sandwiched and all four wheels left the ground. Still got my Clean race bonus! Other times I've merely brushed someone and lost it!

Same as you, I didn't need to try for the gap, I could have taken my time, but it is in our nature as racers. It feels like more effort to fight the impulse to try and go as fast as possible.

 

[fastone371]

Yesterday on the BMB I tried squeezing through a rapidly shrinking gap between an Aston and wall, I failed, got sandwiched and all four wheels left the ground. Still got my Clean race bonus! Other times I've merely brushed someone and lost it!

Same as you, I didn't need to try for the gap, I could have taken my time, but it is in our nature as racers. It feels like more effort to fight the impulse to try and go as fast as possible.

QUOTE="Danyutz, post: 12737676, member: 289818"]I'm also curious how the system "calculates" the hits from AI cars as I've been in your position as well.

Tbh, I've tried overtaking on the straights only, so I could avoid any shunts.

Not sure why I keep trying and pushing for each lap, since I don't have to prove anything [/QUOTE]

If the game determines you are at fault you lose the CRB, if the AI is at fault you will still get CRB.
I have had races at BMB in my X Bow where the AI (namely the Le Ferrari) hits me at T2 and I spin and hit the wall and still get my CRB.

 

[MatskiMonk]

First small chicane, two kerbs on the inside (left inside when entering, right when exiting) can be slightly driven over.
Second chicane after the second long straightaway, two kerbs can be slightly driven over. First kerb on the left inside when entering and second kerb on the left inside when exiting. Don’t drive over the yellow and black mini speed bumps. The Tomahawk will lose stability and you’ll lose speed.

Interesting. I've softened the front of the LM55 to make it more stable around Curva Grande which it takes at about 387km/h, it's then fairly stable hitting the sausage curves. Maxed out on the power and weight upgrades, but without a tune I found the Tomahawk a little slower and less planted. Possibly just my driving style, I find the Mazda easiest to drive.

 

[Pigems]

I took the old Mazda around BMB this morning to get some quick cash. I don’t know how to “fully tune” a car so I just did some quick mods to it. The lowest weight possible, highest N300 power, transmission swapped to sequential and pushed to 300km(I think, I’ll have to check), fully lowered front/back and RSS tires. It was still quite a bit easier than using the fully tuned X-Bow, but probably waaay easier with a proper tune. I don’t know if it’s faster though.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

... It was still quite a bit easier than using the fully tuned X-Bow, but probably waaay easier with a proper tune. I don’t know if it’s faster though.

Just to give you an idea :

My best no-contact run with the X-Bow since the tire physics changed.

Edit :
Re-read your post. In case you wonder whether a proper RX500 tune could be quicker than your current one I'd say, it should ...

 

[Coolsy101]

Interesting. I've softened the front of the LM55 to make it more stable around Curva Grande which it takes at about 387km/h, it's then fairly stable hitting the sausage curves. Maxed out on the power and weight upgrades, but without a tune I found the Tomahawk a little slower and less planted. Possibly just my driving style, I find the Mazda easiest to drive.

Tomahawk can do the same on Curva Grande but it depends on how hard you steer. Gently steering through the corner allows you to achieve a lot more speed. Using TCS 0 with a controller is a bit of a nightmare for me. I’m better at lightly applying the accelerator with pedals. My fingers just don’t have the right finesse just yet

 

[floydant]

Tomahawk can do the same on Curva Grande but it depends on how hard you steer. Gently steering through the corner allows you to achieve a lot more speed. Using TCS 0 with a controller is a bit of a nightmare for me. I’m better at lightly applying the accelerator with pedals. My fingers just don’t have the right finesse just yet

Bugatti VGT is a good one for this. Not quite as quick as the Tomahawk, a few seconds slower per lap, but very solid and stable! Can still take the first corner at full throttle.

 

[Coolsy101]

Bugatti VGT is a good one for this. Not quite as quick as the Tomahawk, a few seconds slower per lap, but very solid and stable! Can still take the first corner at full throttle.

I’m gonna stick with the Tomahawk for now. The only problem I find with the Tomahawk is the stability when you accelerate in the first three gears, mainly first and second gear. TCS 2 helps remove that risk without sacrificing too much handling. It still has some drift slipperiness to it so I utilise it sometimes if I’m cutting across the kerbs

I still wonder if there’s another MR Gr.1 car that can output more horsepower and lose more weight than the Tomahawk and hit 400km/h much quicker

EDIT: Reason I say MR is because I’ve tried cars with other drivetrains and they don’t really have the big acceleration punch cars like the R92CP, Tomahawk and Peugeot 908 have

 

[fastone371]

Bugatti VGT is a good one for this. Not quite as quick as the Tomahawk, a few seconds slower per lap, but very solid and stable! Can still take the first corner at full throttle.

All the GR1 cars I have tried at Monza so far you can take T1 full throttle if you just lift to about 1/2 throttle on entry then go right back to WOT. If you just burp them on entry as quick as you can it seems to give the front end time to bite.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Quite surprising ...
New personal best lap on BMB with the X-Bow :

 

[Mistah_MCA]

I've been enjoying doing the Monza race with the Tomahawk VGT Gr. 1. So far, my fastest total time is 8:43.3, with a 1:13.7 being my best time from that race.

I'm just happy that I won't be going deaf over doing the x2014 races anymore.

 

[Coolsy101]

I've been enjoying doing the Monza race with the Tomahawk VGT Gr. 1. So far, my fastest total time is 8:43.3, with a 1:13.7 being my best time from that race.

I'm just happy that I won't be going deaf over doing the x2014 races anymore.

Woah! Which tune have you been using?! That’s a pretty damn impressive time you’re pulling

 

[Pigems]

I've been enjoying doing the Monza race with the Tomahawk VGT Gr. 1. So far, my fastest total time is 8:43.3, with a 1:13.7 being my best time from that race.

I'm just happy that I won't be going deaf over doing the x2014 races anymore.

Damm, that’s fast man!! I finally got the Gr1 Tomahawk this morning and through 3 runs so far the best I can do is a 15.4 for a 9:03.9 TRT. Gonna keep trying!!

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Woah! Which tune have you been using?! That’s a pretty damn impressive time you’re pulling

Damm, that’s fast man!! I finally got the Gr1 Tomahawk this morning and through 3 runs so far the best I can do is a 15.4 for a 9:03.9 TRT. Gonna keep trying!!

This is my setup:

Tomahawk VGT Gr. 1
Power: 136%
Weight: 84%
Tires: Racing Soft

Transmission:
Top Speed (Auto Set): 249mph/400kmh
Leave gears 1-6, Final unchanged
Gear 7: change it to 0.811

You can still take turn 1 at full throttle, even if you're going 250mph/400kmh (via drafting).
Depending on the opponent roster, you can be in first place just before you start lap 2. I usually average 1:19 on lap 1, 1:14 from laps 2-6. Sometimes, a car you're overlapping will cause you to slow down as early as lap 6. Again, that depends on the roster and when you encounter them.

 

[Pigems]

This is my setup:

Tomahawk VGT Gr. 1
Power: 136%
Weight: 84%
Tires: Racing Soft

Transmission:
Top Speed (Auto Set): 249mph/400kmh
Leave gears 1-6, Final unchanged
Gear 7: change it to 0.811

You can still take turn 1 at full throttle, even if you're going 250mph/400kmh (via drafting).
Depending on the opponent roster, you can be in first place just before you start lap 2. I usually average 1:19 on lap 1, 1:14 from laps 2-6. Sometimes, a car you're overlapping will cause you to slow down as early as lap 6. Again, that depends on the roster and when you encounter them.

Nice! Thanks for the info man, I guess I just need more practice lol. I can do the 1:19 first lap and be in 1st by the time cross the line for lap 2. But I don’t have the hot lap yet, gotta keep working on that one. Great job man!

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Nice! Thanks for the info man, I guess I just need more practice lol. I can do the 1:19 first lap and be in 1st by the time cross the line for lap 2. But I don’t have the hot lap yet, gotta keep working on that one. Great job man!

Thanks haha. Yeah you gotta drive like in Crazy Taxi. going for 1:13 means barely skirting it next to the off track limits, though.

 

[ice_Blazer66]

I'm also curious how the system "calculates" the hits from AI cars as I've been in your position as well.

As long as you don't steering directly into a opponent's Car or Wall, you are fine.

You are still getting the Clean Race Bonus when the AI touches you

 

[ROCKET JOE]

As long as you don't steering directly into a opponent's Car or Wall, you are fine. ...

I did exactly that a couple times during one race yesterday as I didn't want to hit the 20M credits cap ... and I still got the bonus !
Well, I assume the game knew about my honorable reasons .

 

[stpatty]

I'm going to be using the various grinding methods soon. Rather than do the same one all the time I'd like to split it between the most profitable methods. Am I right in saying the top four are

- X-Bow at Blue Moon Bay in the Premium Sports Lounge
- Le Mans in the Nostalgic series, with pre-1979 race cars
- X2014 at Le Mans
- Gr.1 at Monza

?

 

[Tennisguru]

I'm going to be using the various grinding methods soon. Rather than do the same one all the time I'd like to split it between the most profitable methods. Am I right in saying the top four are

- X-Bow at Blue Moon Bay in the Premium Sports Lounge
- Le Mans in the Nostalgic series, with pre-1979 race cars
- X2014 at Le Mans
- Gr.1 at Monza

?

Do you have a race for the Daytona Shelby Cobra? :>)
Trying to like the car but can't get it tuned right also >
I suspect it's me again screwing up, lol.
X2014 at LaMans? can't even get 3rd ???
Other win clean everytime easy.

 

[Coolsy101]

I'm going to be using the various grinding methods soon. Rather than do the same one all the time I'd like to split it between the most profitable methods. Am I right in saying the top four are

- X-Bow at Blue Moon Bay in the Premium Sports Lounge
- Le Mans in the Nostalgic series, with pre-1979 race cars
- X2014 at Le Mans
- Gr.1 at Monza

?

In terms of the quickest, it would be sorted like this:

X2014 at Le Mans
Gr.1 at Monza (Hitting 8:30-8:45 can make this the fastest if you maintain the clean bonus)
Le Mans Nostalgic Series
X-Bow at BMB

In terms of difficulty however, I personally feel it would be sorted like this:

X-Bow at BMB
Le Mans Nostalgic Series
Gr.1 at Monza
X2014 at Le Mans

The X2014 is quick but the AI being unpredictable makes the race quite hard if you’re trying to maintain the clean race bonus. Gr.1 at Monza in difficulty terms is slow traffic mainly. You always have to watch out for the other cars and avoid hitting them which can be quite annoying. The Le Mans Nostalgic series has been reported to be quite easy since there aren’t many cars in the race and they drive nicely (still haven’t gotten a 20m car yet so I have yet to use this method).

BMB is the easiest due to all the corners being in the same direction. Majority of the track is straight so it’s easy to relax with this race. The cars are pretty easy to go around since you’re top speed doesn’t completely overpower other cars. If you grab a good tune for handling then you’re pretty set. The only problem after a while with this race is that you might get sleepy from constantly running this race (I know I have so that’s my personal experience).

 

[Mistah_MCA]

In terms of the quickest, it would be sorted like this:

X2014 at Le Mans
Gr.1 at Monza (Hitting 8:30-8:45 can make this the fastest if you maintain the clean bonus)
Le Mans Nostalgic Series
X-Bow at BMB

In terms of difficulty however, I personally feel it would be sorted like this:

X-Bow at BMB
Le Mans Nostalgic Series
Gr.1 at Monza
X2014 at Le Mans

The X2014 is quick but the AI being unpredictable makes the race quite hard if you’re trying to maintain the clean race bonus. Gr.1 at Monza in difficulty terms is slow traffic mainly. You always have to watch out for the other cars and avoid hitting them which can be quite annoying. The Le Mans Nostalgic series has been reported to be quite easy since there aren’t many cars in the race and they drive nicely (still haven’t gotten a 20m car yet so I have yet to use this method).

BMB is the easiest due to all the corners being in the same direction. Majority of the track is straight so it’s easy to relax with this race. The cars are pretty easy to go around since you’re top speed doesn’t completely overpower other cars. If you grab a good tune for handling then you’re pretty set. The only problem after a while with this race is that you might get sleepy from constantly running this race (I know I have so that’s my personal experience).

Don't forget about the track limits for Circuit de la Sarthe.
And for the x2014 race, there tends to be one AI that will be on your tail the moment you pass them. Hard to shake them off.

 

[Coolsy101]

Don't forget about the track limits for Circuit de la Sarthe.
And for the x2014 race, there tends to be one AI that will be on your tail the moment you pass them. Hard to shake them off.

Definitely.

I just did some quick calculation for the Monza race. If you were consistently hitting 8:30 in each race, it would take you 60 attempts to hit almost 20 million (about 200,000 off). That would take roughly 8 hours and 30 minutes (61 attempts for a proper $20m makes it 8 hours and 38.5 minutes)

If you were hitting 8:45 however, 60 attempts would take 8 hours and 45 minutes (8 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds for 61 attempts).

With the fastest Gr.1 tune on Monza, it is possible to overthrow the X2014 method. Problem is that we haven’t gotten that fast yet, but Mistah_MCA has gotten pretty close. Right now, the Tomahawk is the best Gr.1 car to use unless another car has both higher horsepower and a lower weight

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Definitely.

I just did some quick calculation for the Monza race. If you were consistently hitting 8:30 in each race, it would take you 60 attempts to hit almost 20 million (about 200,000 off). That would take roughly 8 hours and 30 minutes (61 attempts for a proper $20m makes it 8 hours and 38.5 minutes)

If you were hitting 8:45 however, 60 attempts would take 8 hours and 45 minutes (8 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds for 61 attempts).

With the fastest Gr.1 tune on Monza, it is possible to overthrow the X2014 method. Problem is that we haven’t gotten that fast yet, but Mistah_MCA has gotten pretty close. Right now, the Tomahawk is the best Gr.1 car to use unless another car have both higher horsepower and a lower weight

I don't think getting 8:30 is possible for Gr. 1 at Monza, unless if someone found an insane tune. But we know that 8:45 is possible, albeit pretty hard haha.

I made a chart a while back (needs updating), and without loading times and stuff, it'll take 8hr 42 minutes to get to 20m credits from the x2014 race (finishing in 9 minutes or under; 58 attempts). Even with 8:45 on Gr. 1 at Monza, it's slightly less than the x2014 race, but:
1) The Gr. 1 AI are easier to predict
2) Monza has few turns, allowing multiple overtakes in the high-speed sections
3) Gr. 1 cars won't make your ears bleed
4) With effective tuning allowed, you can easily win your races. It's just a matter of how fast you can do it.

So while it's not the fastest way to make credits and XP, it's one of the most reliable ways to make credits.

The Bugatti VGT is pretty close, but sacrifices some speed for stability. This is another car that I'll tinker with and see if it can go any faster.

 

[gtpierre]

Do you have a race for the Daytona Shelby Cobra? :>)
Trying to like the car but can't get it tuned right also >
I suspect it's me again screwing up, lol.
X2014 at LaMans? can't even get 3rd ???
Other win clean everytime easy.

The daytona can win Le Mans but only at max power and if you don't have crazy fast AI.
No specific tune needed, the car is perfect the way it is but you can change the transmission and set it for a 320 kmh top speed if I recall well.

I can also win a bit more easily on sainte croix but the track sucks.

 

[dnlnnhs]

The daytona can win Le Mans but only at max power and if you don't have crazy fast AI.
No specific tune needed, the car is perfect the way it is but you can change the transmission and set it for a 320 kmh top speed if I recall well.

The Daytona is my favorite car for this series - it is not the fastest, but I love the sound! However, if you have a couple of 330s in the lead at the start, it will be very difficult to win (YMMV).

Also, for GR.1 at Monza, I like the LM55. It may be a few seconds slower, but I like the stability - trying to preserve the Clean Race Bonus is more likely for me.

 

[Coolsy101]

I don't think getting 8:30 is possible for Gr. 1 at Monza, unless if someone found an insane tune. But we know that 8:45 is possible, albeit pretty hard haha.

I made a chart a while back (needs updating), and without loading times and stuff, it'll take 8hr 42 minutes to get to 20m credits from the x2014 race (finishing in 9 minutes or under; 58 attempts). Even with 8:45 on Gr. 1 at Monza, it's slightly less than the x2014 race, but:
1) The Gr. 1 AI are easier to predict
2) Monza has few turns, allowing multiple overtakes in the high-speed sections
3) Gr. 1 cars won't make your ears bleed
4) With effective tuning allowed, you can easily win your races. It's just a matter of how fast you can do it.

So while it's not the fastest way to make credits and XP, it's one of the most reliable ways to make credits.

The Bugatti VGT is pretty close, but sacrifices some speed for stability. This is another car that I'll tinker with and see if it can go any faster.

Those times were only for estimation. I actually doubt someone would be able to easily and consistently hit 8:30 hehe. I actually used your chart as a bit of a reference point. Monza is definitely easier than the X2014 race by far. The Bugatti VGT probably won’t be faster than the Tomahawk mainly due to its weight. It can reach the Tomahawk’s HP when fully upgraded but the weight reduction isn’t low enough compared to the Tomahawk. Every bit of weight reduction makes all the difference in speed.

Once I properly get some free time I’ll have to sit down and get some good runs in for Monza before the next update arrives. I’m trying to earn enough cash to get the cheaper cars first and then buy all the expensive ones last

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Those times were only for estimation. I actually doubt someone would be able to easily and consistently hit 8:30 hehe. I actually used your chart as a bit of a reference point. Monza is definitely easier than the X2014 race by far. The Bugatti VGT probably won’t be faster than the Tomahawk mainly due to its weight. It can reach the Tomahawk’s HP when fully upgraded but the weight reduction isn’t low enough compared to the Tomahawk. Every bit of weight reduction makes all the difference in speed.

Once I properly get some free time I’ll have to sit down and get some good runs in for Monza before the next update arrives. I’m trying to earn enough cash to get the cheaper cars first and then buy all the expensive ones last

I just recently bought the last of the cars to complete the collection (except for the Mercedes F1 car.. I have the colored version). I'm starting to save up credits to get ready for the next update. What was nice about this recent one was that no cars were above 1m.
Now if PD can be nice and bring out the '69 Pontiac GTO The Judge and the Chaparral 2J, I will be very happy :]