The Flash (2014)

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I don't think there's likely to be an appearance from Batman like the above article refers to in the comics version
If they go that route I think they will replace Batman with Green Arrow. He has a similar backstory to Batman, and it could be his dad who is Green Arrow after Oliver dies on the boat.

It could also keep Katie Cassidy playing Laurel for a while without abusing flashbacks.

but we do kind of know that Citizen Cold is the new timeline's local hero
Which is unnecessary after the path they already put him on.

TV Season 3 Barry may have to do a few laps around the particle accelerator again
I wonder if the writers regret having tied his powers to the particle accelerator yet. If they had just made it random lightening these stories would be a lot easier to write.
 
The Batman that they will use is actually Thomas Wayne, so no real DC rules will be broken. Basically, Supergirl forced open the door in allowing Batman and Superman in TV (as those were movie exclusive heroes), so we will have to wait and see.
 
The Batman that they will use is actually Thomas Wayne, so no real DC rules will be broken.
Has this been confirmed?

Using Batman with the current show makes no sense. It's a hero you have never met in this show, but it's really a different guy from the hero you never met and The Flash needs to fix things back to normal so that you have never met him again.

Using a current hero in that role makes a lot more sense and Green Arrow is the closest they have to Batman.

Basically, Supergirl forced open the door in allowing Batman and Superman in TV (as those were movie exclusive heroes), so we will have to wait and see.
This may or may not be true. DC could still say no to their inclusion as more than an Easter egg. Either way, bringing Batman in to fulfill his role from Flashpoint wouldn't work with the story so far.
 
Has this been confirmed?

Using Batman with the current show makes no sense. It's a hero you have never met in this show, but it's really a different guy from the hero you never met and The Flash needs to fix things back to normal so that you have never met him again.

Using a current hero in that role makes a lot more sense and Green Arrow is the closest they have to Batman.
It was Thomas Wayne in the comics. As long as they avoid the Bruce Wayne version of Batman in the live version of Flashpoint, then it is okay since Bruce Wayne's Batman is exclusively reserved for the films.


This may or may not be true. DC could still say no to their inclusion as more than an Easter egg. Either way, bringing Batman in to fulfill his role from Flashpoint wouldn't work with the story so far.
He [Superman] is confirmed for at least the first two episodes of Supergirl's next season with possibly more on the way (and he was texting Supergirl throughout season one). It is how he would be used that could skirt DC's rules.
 
It was Thomas Wayne in the comics.
I know, but Batman isn't a character on The Flash TV show. Why would they use Thomas Wayne as Batman when he has zero relevance to the show? It would only make sense to comic die hards and confuse everyone else. Last I checked, Zack Snyder wasn't doing anything with the TV shows, so no decent show runner would go that route on this show.

As long as they avoid the Bruce Wayne version of Batman in the live version of Flashpoint, then it is okay since Bruce Wayne's Batman is exclusively reserved for the films.
Do you have this confirmed? There is a Flash movie coming out that is unrelated to the show. There is nothing saying what the rules around Batman are, and since DC is a producer I don't see the show runners getting away with being cute.



He [Superman] is confirmed for at least the first two episodes of Supergirl's next season with possibly more on the way (and he was texting Supergirl throughout season one). It is how he would be used that could skirt DC's rules.
You make it sound like shows that are made in partnership with DC are trying to dance around DC's rules. There is no telling how the contract is setup.

If Superman sending texts was skirting around the rules, it is still a far cry from showing the cape and cowl being worn by a character using the name Batman. Even moreso, when Superman is part of Supergirl's background but Batman has zero attachment to The Flash.
 
I know, but Batman isn't a character on The Flash TV show. Why would they use Thomas Wayne as Batman when he has zero relevance to the show? It would only make sense to comic die hards and confuse everyone else. Last I checked, Zack Snyder wasn't doing anything with the TV shows, so no decent show runner would go that route on this show.


Do you have this confirmed? There is a Flash movie coming out that is unrelated to the show. There is nothing saying what the rules around Batman are, and since DC is a producer I don't see the show runners getting away with being cute.




You make it sound like shows that are made in partnership with DC are trying to dance around DC's rules. There is no telling how the contract is setup.

If Superman sending texts was skirting around the rules, it is still a far cry from showing the cape and cowl being worn by a character using the name Batman. Even moreso, when Superman is part of Supergirl's background but Batman has zero attachment to The Flash.
Read this. Perhaps my posts are guesses, but they are educated guesses. Besides, Batman has already appeared, at least in name, on The Flash once before:

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To run down the phone:

- The Dad entry refers to Joe West, Earth-2 Barry's father in law.
- Mom and Dad refers to Barry's biological parents, Henry and Nora Allen. The whole murder in Earth-1 didn't happen in Earth-2, hence why Barry of Earth-2 wasn't a speedster.
- Eddie likely refers to Eddie Thawne (who didn't commit suicide in Earth-2).
- Bruce likely refers to Bruce Wayne. Likewise Hal for Hal Jordan, and Diana for Diana Prince.
 
I think TVLine and the other gossip sites would be making a big thing of it if Batman were to appear on The Flash show. Hard to imagine they'd be keeping it a secret.

As things go we don't even know whether Supergirl and Kal-El are in Arrow's specific universe (although the Flashpoint event could end up merging their universes together somehow).

Which is unnecessary after the path they already put him on.
Not sure what you mean by this. Presumably Citizen Cold is a different character to the Captain Cold who was put on that path. I don't think they'll develop him much before the timeline is reset to status quo (plus Supergirl or whatever).
 
I think TVLine and the other gossip sites would be making a big thing of it if Batman were to appear on The Flash show. Hard to imagine they'd be keeping it a secret.

As things go we don't even know whether Supergirl and Kal-El are in Arrow's specific universe (although the Flashpoint event could end up merging their universes together somehow).
The phone was only on screen for the briefest of moments. It was quite easy to miss if you don't make the connections quick enough. Even I missed it my first time watching it. Besides, the whole Robert Queen being the Green Arrow has already been done... On Earth-2. Contains spoilers for "Enter Zoom" episode.

As far as Supergirl goes, her Earth is very unlikely to get merged with Flashpoint. Remember there were three events in DC comics that were powerful enough to reset everything about the DC universe as a whole, Crisis on Infinite Earths, Flashpoint and Rebirth. Since it is perfectly clear to us that the Flashpoint on the Flash TV show isn't as universe shattering as the comic books will make it out to be, that leaves us with Crisis on Infinite Earths and Rebirth as DC shattering events. Since Rebirth is way too recent (like two months ago too recent), that leaves us with Crisis on Infinite Earths. If all goes according to my mental plan, Crisis on Infinite Earths will actually close out the series, since that is where Barry Allen vanishes (see Eobard Thawne's newspaper), and it is unlikely that the kid who is playing Wally West is going to assume the Flash mantle to continue the series.
 
The phone was only on screen for the briefest of moments. It was quite easy to miss if you don't make the connections quick enough. Even I missed it my first time watching it. Besides, the whole Robert Queen being the Green Arrow has already been done... On Earth-2. Contains spoilers for "Enter Zoom" episode.
I was talking about an actual cast member as opposed to a split second ambiguous easter egg. Announcing, casting and integrating a version of someone as tightly integrated into the Bat universe as Batman's father isn't something they would keep under their hat amongst the several casting announcements for next season that have already been leaked.

As far as Supergirl goes, her Earth is very unlikely to get merged with Flashpoint.
I guess we'll see. CW have taken the Supergirl show over. They won't want a steady decline in viewing figures leading to cancellation like on previous network CBS. With a greatly reduced budget I think they'll go with the cheapest option which is to share IP and supporting cast characters with the other shows. I don't think fidelity to the source material is going to be their primary concern in this case.
 
Some analysis that the recent casting of Tom Felton as a series regular on the Flash. By all accounts, he could play...

Dr. Alchemy.

 
1. Barry Allen forgets everything in his past life.
2. It is implied that he doesn't work closely with Joe West in the Police Department, the Metahuman Taskforce or otherwise.
3. He doesn't have a relationship with Iris. Iris later figures out that the Barry that we knew all along doesn't belong in the timeline that results when Nora is saved by the Flash.
4. Eobard Thawne is dragged along to the Flashpoint timeline and is captured.
5. Instead of Barry suffering through the particle accelerator accident (remember, he didn't become the Flash on Earth-2 either), it is Wally West that goes into a coma.
6. Cisco Ramon owns STAR labs, and is the richest man in America as a result.
7. We have Dr. Alchemy (he is wearing a mask).
8. Wally West is The Flash.

1. Cisco Ramon fills the role of Thomas Wayne (in that he helps Barry regain the Speed Force)
2. It is implied that Eobard Thawne would cease to exist if he remained in the Flashpoint timeline for an extended period of time.
3. Barry's crime, if they dive into the "The Trial of Barry Allen" this season, is actually the kidnapping of The Reverse Flash, not murder as portrayed in the comics.



 
This was tweeted out a few days ago (I don't go on twitter as often as I do Facebook). In the tweet itself, they said that they finished a table reading of the script of episode 304 (Season 3 Episode 4), but I can't identify everyone in the picture. I'll show you the picture, and then tell you who I can identify in the spoiler below that.

304 Flash.jpg


Front Row: ???, Jessie Wells, Iris West, Cisco Ramon
Second Row:??? (Most likely a production guy)
Third Row: ??? (Most likely a production guy), Wally West, Barry Allen, Joe West, ??? (Maybe Grey Damon), ???, Harrison Wells, ??? and finally Henry Allen/Jay Garrick

In related news, this episode will feature Mirror Master, the only notable Flash Rogue that has yet to appear in this series. He, according to Comic Book Resources, is supposed to be played by Grey Damon. Damon is most notable for NBC's "Aquarius" and has appeared in the final season of "Friday Night Lights".
 
What is this, a crossover episode?

So there are apparently plans for a musical crossover between The Flash and Supergirl (Which is NOT the four way Flash/Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow/Supergirl crossover set for December), and an animated spinoff with a character called The Ray. A musical episode could be... interesting.
 
What is this, a crossover episode?

So there are apparently plans for a musical crossover between The Flash and Supergirl (Which is NOT the four way Flash/Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow/Supergirl crossover set for December), and an animated spinoff with a character called The Ray. A musical episode could be... interesting.
Actually, the four night crossover is supposed to be episode 8 of each show. So late November.
 
Supergirl is now part of the DC/CW universe, which introduced mysticism with Constantine and Hawkman/girl and Vandal Savage. They've also already introduced psychic mind control.

All you need is one villain with a twisted sense of humor and the ability to alter perception and/or reality and suddenly our heroes are living in a musical.

Honestly, that leaves the door wide open for legitimate possibilities that fit within the world they've created.
 
I haven't watched Buffy either but I hope this meeting of the super-tonsils will be as fun and as slickly produced as the Brave & The Bold cartoon's "Mayhem Of The Music Meister!" episode was.
 
Even Scrubs pulled off an awesome musical episode that was actually explained as part of the story.
 
Here is the list of confirmed villains that are slated to appear in Season 3 of the Flash:

1. Dr. Alchemy (to appear in unknown number of episodes)

Dr Alchemy.jpg

This Dr. Alchemy is actually based on the second incarnation of the character, Alexander Petrov. Like his comic counterpart, Dr. Alchemy works in the Central City (Keystone City in the comics) crime lab, and wants to promote himself. Though his end game will be different, Dr. Alchemy will prove to be a troubling foe for The Flash this year.

2. Savitar (signed for an unknown number of episodes)

Savitar.png


Quoting Wikipedia

A Cold War pilot for a third-world nation, the man who would become known as Savitar was to test a supersonic fighter jet. As he reached top speed, his plane was struck by what appeared to be lightning, and he went down in hostile territory. Discovering he could defeat the enemy by moving at super-speed, he became obsessed with speed, naming himself after Savitr the Hindu "god of motion", and dedicating his life to unlocking its secrets. As Savitar studied, he discovered new powers that no other living speedster has mastered. He can protect himself in a null-inertia force field, give speed and kinetic energy to objects or people, even those in a rest state, he could also heal his own injuries almost instantly.

Savitar’s obsession gained followers, and he became the leader of a cult. In search of more knowledge, he sought out the only super-speed hero operating at the time: Johnny Quick. This encounter became a battle, the tide of which was turned with the arrival of Max Mercury, who led Savitar toward the Speed Force, but caused him to bounce off.

Savitar reappeared decades later to find that his cult had grown in his absence, awaiting his return. He recruited former Blue Trinity member Lady Flash (Christina Alexandrova), and discovered a way to use her speed to divert all energy from the Speed Force to his own army of ninjas. He then sought to eliminate the competition: Flash (Wally West), Impulse, Golden Age Flash (Jay Garrick), Johnny Quick, Jesse Quick, XS, and especially Max Mercury.

Fortunately, Wally’s direct line to the Speed Force prevented Savitar from stealing his speed, and a coalition of just about every speedster (except for Red Trinity), foiled his plans. Hell-bent on at least destroying Flash’s world in retribution, he led the Flash on a worldwide race of destruction, until Flash chose to give Savitar what he wanted: union with the Speed Force. His earlier encounter had shown him that the others who had arrived before would deal with Savitar as they saw fit.

In The Flash Rebirth mini-series, Savitar is able to escape from the Speed Force. He is run down by the recently returned to life Barry Allen; however, when Barry touches him, Savitar disintegrates, leaving only a pile of bones. It is revealed that Reverse-Flash altered the Speed Force and Barry to make the Flash shift in reverse, and cursed to kill every Speed Force user with a single touch, though it seemed to be undone by the defeat of Professor Zoom during the conflict between the two speedsters. Thus far, Savitar, Lady Flash (Lady Savitar at the time) and Johnny Quick have been killed by this effect.

Savitar can move at super speed, and is able to lend or steal speed from moving objects. He has accelerated healing due to increased metabolism and can generate a null inertia force field.

3. Mirror Master (To appear in one episode, episode 4)
 
We finally see the first glimpse of Savitar tonight, and he looks BadA**. And we don't see the last of Alchemy.

Also the 4-night crossover is next week.
 
Cisco is entering Foggy Nelson levels of "OMG, would you just 🤬 off and die." with his overbearing hissy fits, that at this point (tonight's episode) are actually to the detriment of everyone else.
 
^Worst thing that could happen to the character in my opinion.

Meanwhile Wally did a "Wild Dog" from Arrow this week as his over eagerness got the better of him.
 
Regarding the Four night crossover, it is really The Flash, Arrow, and then Legends. Supergirl really didn't contribute anything, and what little it did, was copied and pasted into The Flash.
 
Yeah I realized that after watching the 4 episode this week-end.

I had to check 2-3 times if I was really on the right Supergirl episode because it wasnt going.

Rest of the crossover was nice I quite liked it.
 
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