The Ford v. Ferrari Movie Will Be Hollywood's Take on the Epic RivalryMovies

[TheCrazySwede]

I don't see this as an underdog story at all. I see it for the revenge story that it is. Ferrari screwed over Ford so Ford Motor Company decided to show Ferrari what happens when you play games with a Giant by beating them badly at the only race that mattered and would embarrass them on the biggest of world stages.

Maybe we're getting different vibes, but the trailer definitely gave me underdog vibes. The definition of underdog is "a competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest."

"You're gonna beat Ferrari with a Ford? Hahaha!" That IS an underdog story. But in this case, the 'underdog' has the funds and resources available to assemble the best people in the business. If Google used its funds and resources to assemble a team to run an airliner to compete against the big boys, I don't think anyone would laugh at that idea or think they couldn't do it because they haven't done it before. They have the ability to throw their massive wallet at the project, get very capable people to manage it and get it done right. That's exactly what Ford did.

I love the Ford GT's journey as much as the next petrol head, but the trailer seemed really one-sided on making Ford look like the underdog, more so than they should have and my point is that an American film maker would never make a movie that didn't portray the U.S. as the underdog, even if they're the powerhouse in the equation. You could easily make this movie and stay true to it being a revenge story, but that's not the vibe I got. To me, it's pretty much Rocky vs. Apollo Creed, but Rocky is the world champion and Apollo has to use his millions to beat the Italian dock worker.

Henry Ford literally founded Ford (well, the Henry Ford Company, which fell over and sort-of became Ford Motor Company the following year) on the winnings of a motor race...

Exactly.

Ford was not new to motorsport - at all. The amount of times that company fell through the cracks all because H. Ford was bit by the speed bug is a story on its own. I was making a point of how they're making it seem like Ford is the little guy trying to hang with the big boys, when in reality Ford is the biggest boy of them all. Maybe it's just the trailer giving off that vibe and the film will be different, but Miles laughing at Shelby for mentioning the idea when Miles himself competed in Porsche's 904/906 project that beat Ferrari, despite being an even bigger underdog at the time, tells me that's the tone they're going for.

 

[PocketZeven]

Meanwhile I am still hoping for a Senna vs Prost movie...

 

[Rinsky]

Maybe we're getting different vibes, but the trailer definitely gave me underdog vibes. The definition of underdog is "a competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest."

"You're gonna beat Ferrari with a Ford? Hahaha!" That IS an underdog story. But in this case, the 'underdog' has the funds and resources available to assemble the best people in the business. If Google used its funds and resources to assemble a team to run an airliner to compete against the big boys, I don't think anyone would laugh at that idea or think they couldn't do it because they haven't done it before. They have the ability to throw their massive wallet at the project, get very capable people to manage it and get it done right. That's exactly what Ford did.

I love the Ford GT's journey as much as the next petrol head, but the trailer seemed really one-sided on making Ford look like the underdog, more so than they should have and my point is that an American film maker would never make a movie that didn't portray the U.S. as the underdog, even if they're the powerhouse in the equation. You could easily make this movie and stay true to it being a revenge story, but that's not the vibe I got. To me, it's pretty much Rocky vs. Apollo Creed, but Rocky is the world champion and Apollo has to use his millions to beat the Italian dock worker.



Exactly.

Ford was not new to motorsport - at all. The amount of times that company fell through the cracks all because H. Ford was bit by the speed bug is a story on its own. I was making a point of how they're making it seem like Ford is the little guy trying to hang with the big boys, when in reality Ford is the biggest boy of them all. Maybe it's just the trailer giving off that vibe and the film will be different, but Miles laughing at Shelby for mentioning the idea when Miles himself competed in Porsche's 904/906 project that beat Ferrari, despite being an even bigger underdog at the time, tells me that's the tone they're going for.

Its definitely possible for two people to see the same thing and walk away with two different views.
In a way it has both of our views in it. As I don't see it portraying Ford as being an underdog company because they show and say Ford has an unlimited amount of money to throw at this project but it will take more than that to beat Ferrari.
At the same time everyone was considered an underdog when it came to Ferrari on the race track. Ferrari was very very dominant back in this era of racing so it wasn't likely and almost down right impossible that any company could put a car together in that short of a time frame and challenge Ferrari much less beat them.
It's people that share both of our views as to why this has become one of racing's greatest stories after so many years.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

To add, I thought it was a revenge story from Ford's perspective while Ken Miles and Carroll Shelby are the underdogs. When Henry Ford II said "we're going to war", that sounded like a wanting for revenge.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Reviews are coming in for this and they are really positive.

 

[FoRiZon]

Reviews are coming in for this and they are really positive.

Really hope the cinematic is on par with Rush. Absolute cinematic masterpiece. Awed everytime I seen it.

 

[TetsuKobura]

 

[DesertPenguin]

Visually stunning, but are they gonna ignore the entire story of Ferrari being sold to Ford and then Ferrari backing out at the last minute because I'm pretty sure that's the reasoning behind Ford II "going to war" against Ferrari, not because of some childish "Ferrari said you're fat and ugly" routine.

 

[Northstar]

Visually stunning, but are they gonna ignore the entire story of Ferrari being sold to Ford and then Ferrari backing out at the last minute

They were at Ferrari HQ in that scene, so I'm guessing no.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Sounds like it, I just hope they don't spin things to be a simple movie plot instead of the true story.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Hope they don't show Ford as the heroes, but it seems like it.

 

[TetsuKobura]

One thing's for sure, I'm definitely getting midnight release seats for this if available.

 

[Northstar]

Hope they don't show Ford as the heroes, but it seems like it.

Movies need someone to root for, that party in movies like this is usually the one that comes out on top. As long as they do something like Rush and show both in a positive light despite there being a clear antagonist and protagonist I'm fine with Ford being the "hero".

 

[Grand Prix]

It might end up being the Braveheart of racing movies. Good production value, but embellished with horrible inaccuracies. Loved by your average movie watcher, but dismissed by people that are knowledgeable with the source material.

 

[05XR8]

 

[doblocruiser]

Went to see it this evening and I had an absolute great time. If there is a bit of petrol in your vaines, just go! I think the montage is nicely done and pacing is up to speed.

 

[gthelmi2398]

I will go this evening.

 

[Leadfoot530]

Got to see it tonight. Need more time to write down all my thoughts but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots of car guy/racer eye candy to pick up on, with some pretty good humor that doesn't feel too out of place.

Go see it, dangit!

 

[ROCKET JOE]

This is not going to be an important contribution here, but anyway ...
Moviestart was yesterday here in Germany. Today it's my son's birthday and I'm planning to take him to the cinema this weekend.
Since I'm trying hard to make him forget about FORTNITE for a moment, I've messaged him this :

After all the teasers I'm looking forward to finally watch the whole movie !

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I saw the movie myself today and I quite liked it. One nitpik I have is with one of the racing scenes, but considering why they had to do that; I can understand it. I'll elaborate in this spoiler post.

Spoiler: scene

In the movie, they showcase racing in the Daytona 24 hours and I found it really distracting to see safer barriers on track. However if they were driving for real, I can understand that due to safety reasons.

I don't know how accurate it is, but I found it very entertaining to watch. Including some of the conflicts Shelby and Ken had with Ford themselves.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

I saw the movie myself today and I quite liked it. One nitpik I have is with one of the racing scenes, but considering why they had to do that; I can understand it. I'll elaborate in this spoiler post.

Spoiler: scene

In the movie, they showcase racing in the Daytona 24 hours and I found it really distracting to see safer barriers on track. However if they were driving for real, I can understand that due to safety reasons.

I don't know how accurate it is, but I found it very entertaining to watch. Including some of the conflicts Shelby and Ken had with Ford themselves.

Spoiler

I read on Jalopnik that apparently the Daytona scenes were filmed on Auto Club Speedway and some of the Le Mans scenes were on Road Atlanta. If you're familiar with any of those tracks, I imagine it's pretty distracting noticing the discrepancy. For 99% of the viewers though, it wouldn't be an issue and I think it's a reasonable compromise.

 

[TetsuKobura]

Rush was a great movie. FordvFerrari blew it out of the water. By far one of my favorite movies of all time.

 

[GTboyz]

Rush was a great movie. FordvFerrari blew it out of the water. By far one of my favorite movies of all time.

Holy crap really?! You got me pretty excited now. I love Rush but I have no impression this will beat it even though it's one of my favourite stories in racing history. If this blew it out of the water then goddamn.

I'll see it tomorrow, hope it's awesome.

 

[silverman_GT]

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How did that get there?

The film looks to be a good film, but going by the trailer, they've went way overboard on making the crashes look spectacular.

Spoiler

Comparing this scene to what was seen in the movie, I think the filmmakers only wanted to capture the "impact" of the car as it touches the ground. IIRC in the movie the 250 bumped into a hay bale and didn't fly as high, but it did land and wreck in the same manner - which was presumably CGI mixed with the real "crash footage".

Nice to see practical effects taking up most of the role here.

 

[Jawehawk]

Saw it in IMAX yesterday, and I too think it might be even better than Rush. I like the focus on the internal rivalry, and some of the racing scenes at Le mans in particular are stunning. I still prefer the Ferrari though.

Next up, a movie about the McLaren F1 and how they won at Le Mans please.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Spoiler

I read on Jalopnik that apparently the Daytona scenes were filmed on Auto Club Speedway and some of the Le Mans scenes were on Road Atlanta. If you're familiar with any of those tracks, I imagine it's pretty distracting noticing the discrepancy. For 99% of the viewers though, it wouldn't be an issue and I think it's a reasonable compromise.

Spoiler

Ah, so that's how they did the LeMans scenes. I was wondering how they did those considering how much La Sarthe changed since 1966. Yeah, I agree that it's a reasonable compromise.

 

[GTboyz]

Saw it in IMAX yesterday, and I too think it might be even better than Rush. I like the focus on the internal rivalry, and some of the racing scenes at Le mans in particular are stunning. I still prefer the Ferrari though.

Next up, a movie about the McLaren F1 and how they won at Le Mans please.

Or how Porsche 956 won.

Just watched it. Holy hell, it is better than Rush.

The racing scenes are really intense, Bale is great as always.

 

[JackRyanWMU]

Not only the best racing movie I've seen. One of the best movies I've ever seen, period. Seriously, other than some super nit-picky things that only hardcore racing fans would notice; I can't think of a single fault in this film. There were times I forgot I was watching Matt Damon portraying Carroll Shelby and felt like I was seeing the man firsthand.

For anyone who was on the fence about seeing Ford Vs. Ferrari, I have three words for you:

GO LIKE HELL!!!

 

[Justuxful]

Just came back home from finally seeing it and it is absolutely brilliant, even better than I expected it to be, I loved every minute of it!

The best car related movie I’ve ever seen and the best movie I’ve seen this year, this is a definite recommend for everyone to see!

 

[Volksauto]

Just watched the movie and I loved it!
It really makes me want a '64 GT40 Prototype despite it's quarks.