The General Airplane Thread

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It looks like newly introduced airplanes from now on will drop the x00 nomenclature and simply be identified by the first number (-8, -9, etc.).

Ah, that makes more sense; I suppose many would just call a 787-8 a "788", like a 757-200 is a "752", or a 767-300 is a "763" (and so on, and so forth).
 
Not yet, but aerodynamics and propulsion are the ones I like the most. If had to choose, it would be between these two and they are both my favourites.

Hint, aerodynamics is better.

Though a bit more serious, no reason why you can't get familiar with both (or more) but it might take time. One as work, the other as a hobby. Or, just be extra nosey around the office when you get there.
 
Hint, aerodynamics is better.

Though a bit more serious, no reason why you can't get familiar with both (or more) but it might take time. One as work, the other as a hobby. Or, just be extra nosey around the office when you get there.

Actually I like aerodynamics and if possible I use that as my thesis for the Master degree. Then have a few years of pause and work, learn propulsion as a hobby and then use it for the thesis to get PhD degree.

That way I'm specialized at both. Win/win situation, but there is involved hard work and study.

There is other reason I want to work for Airbus. They have a a plan where you can develop your PhD thesis and the finance it while working there. (although I'm not sure if they have this for aerospace, but my brother is a electrotechnical engineer and he applied for there just because of this plan)
 
Actually I like aerodynamics and if possible I use that as my thesis for the Master degree. Then have a few years of pause and work, learn propulsion as a hobby and then use it for the thesis to get PhD degree.

That way I'm specialized at both. Win/win situation, but there is involved hard work and study.
It's certainly possible to specialise in fluid flows through propulsion systems, and it's probably a more sensible way of combining the two interests otherwise you're not going to master neither.

There's good money and opportunities to be had in materials technology too, and it's just as transferable to other fields (like motor sport).

It's very difficult to learn something as a hobby when much of the knowledge, experience and tools are to be found in a research environment.

There is other reason I want to work for Airbus. They have a a plan where you can develop your PhD thesis and the finance it while working there. (although I'm not sure if they have this for aerospace, but my brother is a electrotechnical engineer and he applied for there just because of this plan)
Rolls Royce and Tata Steel both do this at Swansea University. You attain an EngD (equivalent of a PhD) and you are paid very well, tax free, to do it.
 
Rolls Royce and Tata Steel both do this at Swansea University. You attain an EngD (equivalent of a PhD) and you are paid very well, tax free, to do it.

Rolls Royce does this in Portugal too, my brother told me.

Thank you guys for the advices and the extra motivation you are giving me and I'm still two years away of college!
This encourages me to work harder to pursue my dreams. A big thank
 
Once I get my roommate to submit into going to March AFB museum, I will post more pics..
 
Ooh! Ooh!

I found my video of the B-1 event I described in post 74, and uploaded the clip, from March 2002:
 
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I wonder if there is a possible market for that size of turboprop]

If it performs efficiently I believe there would be quite a large market for them, especially shorter trips between larger cities like Calgary-Edmonton for example.
In those situations turboprops are usually more efficient and aircraft like the Q400 are often used over turbofans even with the seating and speed limitations.
 
My brother and parents are going on holiday to Gran Canaria with Thomson airlines and because of a last minute aircraft change they are now flying on the 787-800. I'm unbelievably jealous.

Its the first one to be in service in the UK, grrrrr.

Thomson only fly the aircraft long haul however for some reason they are using it for this flight instead of the normal 767-300.
 
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Okay, boring discussion time. What airliners would you recommend for a transatlantic flight? Airbus or Boeing? A330? 757?
 
Okay, boring discussion time. What airliners would you recommend for a transatlantic flight? Airbus or Boeing? A330? 757?

A330 is much wider and larger and therefore I assume more comfortable. It is also designed to be more for long haul, whilst the 757 is designed more to be for short-medium haul flights.

However in general I prefer Boeing planes, however the a330 and 757 arn't really comparable planes, they both were built to different specifications.
 
Depends on a few things.

Airports and class?
Pittsburgh to either Manchester or Leeds, Economy class.

We'll have to go from Pittsburgh to a hub, likely either JFK, ATL, or PHI, though others are possible. If going to Leeds, we may fly into a Continental city and catch a connecting flight, but it's probably easier to go direct to Manchester and then drive the 45 or so miles to Leeds.

A330 is much wider and larger and therefore I assume more comfortable. It is also designed to be more for long haul, whilst the 757 is designed more to be for short-medium haul flights.

However in general I prefer Boeing planes, however the a330 and 757 arn't really comparable planes, they both were built to different specifications.

I didn't know that. The A330 and 757 are the two aircraft I've seen so far for the transatlantic leg, so I take it that the A330 is much better for that purpose.
 
The 757 can be ETOPS rated (extended-range), but the A330 will be less claustrophobic on a long trans-Atlantic flight, since it has three rows of seats. 757s are usually older, if that matters to you.

767-300s can be "pinchy" in standard class for 3+ hour flights; I'd opt for the extra seat pitch or leg room seats on the 763s for long flights (it's a common trans-Atlantic/continental route aircraft).
 
I didn't know that. The A330 and 757 are the two aircraft I've seen so far for the transatlantic leg, so I take it that the A330 is much better for that purpose.

Go with the 330 if it's between those two. 767 and 777 are 330 competitors.
 
Essentially, I need something cheap, so economy class is a must, but I also want something fairly comfortable. I've flown from Philly to Manchester on a US Airways A330, and it was very nice, though the food was awful. (But that's true of most airline food).

I'm currently considering these two flights, though I'm not ready to buy tickets just yet.

Delta: PIT to ATL, ATL to MAN

US Air, PIT to PHI, PHI to MAN
 
All of transatlantic flights I did were in A340s. But that isn't relevent because it's similar to A330 but with two more engines.
 
The A330's a pretty good aircraft overall! Only thing I'd avoid is sitting at the way back cause there you get a near constant rumble from the engines, which can make it hard to get some well-needed shut eye on those long haul flights.

I much prefer sitting up front, way quieter and better engine sounds :dopey: Though economy class usually doesn't extend that far forward, so seats on the wing end up being the quietest. Just don't mind the noises from the various systems.

Can't really comment on the 757, but it's often said to have the most interesting takeoffs :sly:
 
I don't recall flying in A330s so I can't comment. The 757 was pretty good and spacious and although it's long range the only time I was in one was for a four hour flight and I liked it, even though I was pretty young, 9yo I think.

Don't talk about take-offs. Last year I was arriving to Lisbon from Azores and the plane was landing and the runway was ten meters away in hegith and out of nowhere we took off right away. I literally 🤬 my pants. The whole aircraft was dead silent, not a single fly made a sound. It was so scary...
 

Cough This one Cough

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I remember flying a DAL 777 from Frankfurt to ATL and it being very nice. I feel like my flights to Rome and Amsterdam and from London back to ATL were on the 767-300 but it was quite a long time ago, so that may not be right. 76 and 77 cabins are massive compared to any 75 so don't worry about feeling cramped, unless you have long legs like me :( Maybe try going for an exit row?

Can't comment on Airbus planes, only flown on one (old Northwest plane) and was in the very last row with the same knee room as in the back seat of an old Porsche.

Of course, back when we did those trips, it was easier to fly standby on Delta (employee travel) and we ended up getting first class for all those.
 
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I love takeoffs myself. An unloaded ERJ-145 on a test flight gets up to speed quite quick when the pilots hold the brakes and spool up those AE3007's. Those little engines spool up very fast considering they are high-bypass turbofans lol
And landing on a test flight... it kinda hurts lol. Full spoilers, full reverse thrust, and those meaty carbon-carbon brake disks sets slow down such a light regional jet fast.
 
Don't talk about take-offs. Last year I was arriving to Lisbon from Azores and the plane was landing and the runway was ten meters away in hegith and out of nowhere we took off right away. I literally 🤬 my pants. The whole aircraft was dead silent, not a single fly made a sound. It was so scary...

I so want to experience a go around myself! :ill:

Venom, holding the brakes during spool-up reminds me of the local pilots with the Dash 8/ATR takeoffs from the smaller runways here (all 1220m/4000ft). They are usually keen to get off the ground as soon as they can, and particularly get back on the ground :ouch:

The quickest takeoff I experienced was funnily enough on a full flight from Dharavandhoo airport :odd: It had been on a return leg on the Malé-Hanimaadhoo-Dharavandhoo-Malé route, so must have been a low fuel load though. I love the sound of the Dash 8 Q200/300 spool-up! :)

Anyways, here's a drop of 3 different massive V12s which all sound similar yet equally brutal... :scared:

Rolls-Royce Merlin


Daimler Benz DB605


Klimov VK-105


My personal favourite is the Merlin :drool:
 
Here are some things I've only seen once or twice (as opposed to things like F-15s and F-22s that I see at every air show I go to.)

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Hawker Sea Fury:


P-39:


C-47 and C-17 together:


Also, there is a group called Tora! Tora! Tora! that re-enacts the Pearl Harbor attack, with at least three different Japanese planes (usually built from T-6 Texans,) sometimes a P-39, sometimes a P-40, and pyrotechnics on the field. Excellent show!






P-40 in pursuit of a Zero:


Git 'im!!!!


 

Delta's the only one with no mileage expiration, as far as I know, which is nice if you're an infrequent flier. Most airlines have a 12-18 month retention policy of the miles before expiration. Check the fine print, and expect to get hit with lots of emails, credit card deals, hotel pamphlets, et cetera.
 
Okay, boring discussion time. What airliners would you recommend for a transatlantic flight? Airbus or Boeing? A330? 757?

The A330 is a wide body (3 columns of seats and two aisles) while the 757 is a narrow body (2 columns of seats and one aisle). In a transatlantic flight, the A330 is going to be more comfortable than a 757. Overall, the A330 is a pretty nice plane, though not as nice as a 777.

I'm surprised that an airline would fly a 757 on transoceanic flights. Though Pupik mentioned that they can be ETOPS certified, they get pretty cramped, especially on longer haul flights. For comparison, the 757 is only a little bit bigger than the 737-900.

However in general I prefer Boeing planes, however the a330 and 757 arn't really comparable planes, they both were built to different specifications.

This.

I didn't know that. The A330 and 757 are the two aircraft I've seen so far for the transatlantic leg, so I take it that the A330 is much better for that purpose.

I guess it really all depends on the the market of the particular route, but I would expect an airline to either fly an A330 or a 767 in a transatlantic route. For some of the busier routes, I would expect an A340, 777 or even a 747.

The 757 can be ETOPS rated (extended-range), but the A330 will be less claustrophobic on a long trans-Atlantic flight, since it has three rows of seats. 757s are usually older, if that matters to you.

767-300s can be "pinchy" in standard class for 3+ hour flights; I'd opt for the extra seat pitch or leg room seats on the 763s for long flights (it's a common trans-Atlantic/continental route aircraft).

I've flown on a few 757s for domestic flights, though I doubt nearly as often as Pupik have, and I agree with him. Maybe it's just Delta/United not taking care of their planes, but they are noisy, uncomfortable and have crappy entertainment systems.

I much prefer sitting up front, way quieter and better engine sounds :dopey: Though economy class usually doesn't extend that far forward, so seats on the wing end up being the quietest. Just don't mind the noises from the various systems.

My understanding is that it's the quietest in the front of the plane, the safest over the wing, and the loudest in the rear. Sitting over the wing is nice, but the wing may block views that you could otherwise enjoy, though it's kinda cool to see the slats and flaps deploy during take off and landing.

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I've had the chance to fly on both an A330 and a 777 (both relatively new, A330 on a transpacific flight and 777 on a transatlantic flight) in the past couple of years. As long as the plane is fairly new, it's going to be pretty comfortable and nice to fly in. You can Google something like "A330 seat maps for x airline", and you'll find plenty of resources with information on the planes flown on different routes from different airlines, including seat maps, food served, age of fleet and individual planes. From there, you can choose what you want.
 
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