The general WHAT IN THE WORLD is going on in Canada?

In recent events, the national anthem (O, Canada) was changed to adhere to feminists and the LGBT community.

Changed from "In all thy sons command" to "In all of us command" which makes no sense grammatically. Way to ruin the anthem that was fine the way it was.

TFW Trudeau panders to yet another minority
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MrWaflz55
In recent events, the national anthem (O, Canada) was changed to adhere to feminists and the LGBT community.

Changed from "In all thy sons command" to "In all of us command" which makes no sense grammatically. Way to ruin the anthem that was fine the way it was.

TFW Trudeau panders to yet another minority
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MrWaflz55
In recent events, the national anthem (O, Canada) was changed to adhere to feminists and the LGBT community.

Changed from "In all thy sons command" to "In all of us command" which makes no sense grammatically. Way to ruin the anthem that was fine the way it was.
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The initial lyrics of the song were "thou dost in us command" and were changed to "in all thy sons" and the "God keep our land" lines were added. The song was initially gender neutral and had no religious elements, but was changed to include them.
Turbotwin01
Yes let's change 2 words in our national anthem, because thats the biggest issue in our country right now right?
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We can focus on more than one thing at a time. This kind of bill is not something that takes up much time in the house of commons or impedes progress on bigger issues.
 
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Joel
The initial lyrics of the song were "thou dost in us command" and were changed to "in all thy sons" and the "God keep our land" lines were added. The song was initially gender neutral and had no religious elements, but was changed to include them.
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I had to explain this to my dad just this past weekend. He was similarly outraged about this "suppression of religion", which is odd for someone who calls himself an atheist.

We can focus on more than one thing at a time. This kind of bill is not something that takes up much time in the house of commons or impedes progress on bigger issues.
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Shhhh, get out of here with that 'logic' stuff!
 
SlipZtrEm
I had to explain this to my dad just this past weekend. He was similarly outraged about this "suppression of religion", which is odd for someone who calls himself an atheist.
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It's even more strange given that the "God keep our land" line was not touched and was never a part of this bill :lol:
 
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Joel
The initial lyrics of the song were "thou dost in us command" and were changed to "in all thy sons" and the "God keep our land" lines were added. The song was initially gender neutral and had no religious elements, but was changed to include them.

We can focus on more than one thing at a time. This kind of bill is not something that takes up much time in the house of commons or impedes progress on bigger issues.
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Thou dost in us command? I guess Mr. Weir was a big fan of Shakespeare:lol:. It's a good thing they sing the anthem at hockey games before they start. I'd never be able to get that out coherently by the third period:sly:
 
I'd love for the religious connotations to be removed, though I'm not sure what would be a good replacement.

God keep our land, glorious and free.

To something like

Doge keep our land, glorious and wow.
 
1241Penguin
I'd love for the religious connotations to be removed, though I'm not sure what would be a good replacement.

God keep our land, glorious and free.

To something like

Doge keep our land, glorious and wow.
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Probably more like,

Doge keep our land, like, amazing. #Canada#SidneyCrosby#SJW#GlobalWarming
 
Joel
The initial lyrics of the song were "thou dost in us command" and were changed to "in all thy sons" and the "God keep our land" lines were added. The song was initially gender neutral and had no religious elements, but was changed to include them.

We can focus on more than one thing at a time. This kind of bill is not something that takes up much time in the house of commons or impedes progress on bigger issues.
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B-b-but "Big Reds" under the bed!
 
MrWaflz55
I bet most women in this country outside of the SJW community didn't even care.
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It's not really your place to "bet" on how women feel about it. The wording of the national anthem has been flat out, undeniably sexist. This simply reflects the fact that for centuries the western world (well pretty much the entire world) has been institutionally sexist. The fact that generations of men have been brought up to expect this & generations of women have been brought up to accept this, does not make it right. It may be true that most Canadian women would not consider the wording of the national anthem the most pressing issue in their lives, but this doesn't mean it's not worth "fixing".

And ... for the record, my two teenage daughters, & my wife, all think the wording should be changed to be more inclusive.
 
MrWaflz55
I bet most women in this country outside of the SJW community didn't even care.
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What a dismissive non-statement. @Biggles covers why very thoroughly.

A lot of things done over history were done by people that didn't know any better. That shouldn't be a reason to stick to outdated things, especially when this is in no way negatively impacting anybody.

The new lyrics are more inclusive. They haven't replaced any group with another, they've simply added more.
 
MrWaflz55
In recent events, the national anthem (O, Canada) was changed to adhere to feminists and the LGBT community.
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I don't understand the part in bold. Essentially, from "sons" to "us" - where does the justification for specifying LGBT come in? Feminism and the "LGBT community" have by default absolutely nothing tying them together, except maybe in the minds of people committed to stereotyping.

Incidentally, it's pretty similar to why I took issue with @prisonermonkeys' recent post in the Funny thread. Where one person sees a logical extrapolation, others will see no logical link, and a stereotyping bias in... The Extrapolator!!
 
Joel
It's even more strange given that the "God keep our land" line was not touched and was never a part of this bill :lol:
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1241Penguin
I'd love for the religious connotations to be removed, though I'm not sure what would be a good replacement.

God keep our land, glorious and free.

To something like

Doge keep our land, glorious and wow.
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Simple, change it to Gretzky keep our rinks. It's pretty much the same, right?
 
What is the context of the preceding line of the national anthem? To me it seems that "in all of our command" would be grammatically correct and not "in all of us command".
 
Liquid
What is the context of the preceding line of the national anthem? To me it seems that "in all of our command" would be grammatically correct and not "in all of us command".
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O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love, in all of us command/in all thy sons' command/thou dost in us command

The current and last 2 versions of the line give the meaning of "Canada commands (as in "commands respect") a true patriotic love in all of us/its sons. With "in all of our.." The meaning changes, in the "all of us/thy sons/thou dost" lines, the home and native land is commanding (as in "commands respect") true patriotic love of all of us/its sons. I think it's most clear with the original thou dost in us command line. Using in all of our command flips it to the citizenry harnessing and commanding the patriotic love of Canada.

Frankly I actually like that a lot better :lol:

MrWaflz55
Apparently I'm not allowed an opinion here. The anthem sounds stupid now. Done. Drops mic.
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You can have your own opinion all you want. I agree that in all of us sounds more awkward than the previous version, (I prefer the original thou dost in us command to either).

What you were challenged on was this bizzare idea that some rabidly angry faction of "SJW" feminists and LGBT activists caused this, rather than one MP feeling strongly about the issue and putting it to a vote. Trudeau also had basically nothing to do with this.
 
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I see, I see.

Alternative based on the thou dost original:

True patriot love in us, you do command

Comma is a bit crucial to underlying the stress of the sentence. The rhythm of the song and flow of the line can be whatever it was before without spoiling the above interpretation, should that please you.
 
Liquid
What is the context of the preceding line of the national anthem? To me it seems that "in all of our command" would be grammatically correct and not "in all of us command".
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As @Joel points out the context is equivalent to "command within all of us".
 

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