The GT Sport Livery Editor Competition 19 - CLOSED
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I've had this livery for a while. It was originally symmetrical but after 5/6 failed attempts at creating something brand new, I decided to rip the decals off the right side and start fresh with it. I drew a line down the middle and literally deleted all right sided decals. The changes aren't that major from side to side but the black mask from left to right follow the same line rather than meeting at the roof and going symmetrical. Some of the sponsors have moved to suit around the change in position of the black and grey. While all the shaped decals have changed, overall it doesn't look so different which I like.FINAL ENTRY
(This entry may change. The more I look at it, the more I dislike it!)
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Livery link
https://www.gran-turismo.com/fr/gts...lery/all/livery/1036442/1/7206393831264125472
Livery link
https://www.gran-turismo.com/fr/gts...lery/all/livery/1036442/1/7206393831264125472
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Livery link
https://www.gran-turismo.com/fr/gts...lery/all/livery/1036442/1/8215204545773471264
Great job and nice to have you here in the LEC comps @NBDESIGNZ !
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I was bored. I have no business mingling here beyond I had an idea. I call it Warlequin, and I regret everything.
https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/user/livery/2931782/1/7062296234904520224
I was bored. I have no business mingling here beyond I had an idea. I call it Warlequin, and I regret everything.
https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/user/livery/2931782/1/7062296234904520224
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So I only just got GT Sport earlier this week and I've about killed myself playing with the livery editor. The Mazda got chosen purely because I hadn't painted it yet. I was partly inspired by GT2 Racemods of old but went where my creative juices took me.
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Link to v.3 (featured)
So I only just got GT Sport earlier this week and I've about killed myself playing with the livery editor. The Mazda got chosen purely because I hadn't painted it yet. I was partly inspired by GT2 Racemods of old but went where my creative juices took me.
Link to v.2 (removed)
Link to v.3 (featured)
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I like it, but I'm afraid this may count as a split design, which is not allowed. @Noisy should be the one telling though.FINAL ENTRY
So I only just got GT Sport earlier this week and I've about killed myself playing with the livery editor. The Mazda got chosen purely because I hadn't painted it yet. I was partly inspired by GT2 Racemods of old but went where my creative juices took me. I decided to put the BP logo on a different color field as I feel that frames and meshes better with it's branding vs Castrol's. It's a shame some of the smaller details of this livery are missed in these pictures, so be sure to download it!
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No worries, I'll just mind my own business next time and let the judge DQ the design at the last second.
The problem as @D-Max pointed out is that it is half Castrol, half BP, pretty much what the 1999 BAR F1 was (half 555, half Lucky Strike). And that's used as an example in the OP to define a split design which is not allowed.
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But it isn't half and half, so that's where the confusion mounts.
Is he disallowing the disjointed mashing of two liveries together (which is how I took it) or is he wanting to only see branding of one primary sponsor?
BP owns Castrol and they make two different products (fuel and lubricants). It's not unreasonable to see branding for both products on a car. I also tried to seamleassly give each their own space without cutting it right down the middle (i.e. my definition of "half" btw) and stitching it together.
If I change the livery, the bp part is staying, the yellow part would simply be repainted and at that point, is it really a split livery?
In case of the BAR 01 livery, both brands were owned by a parent company but they are still 2 separate title sponsors . Castrol may be owned by BP but they are still 2 separate brands. You're showing 2 title sponsors which means the car has a split livery (whether you use lamborghini & ferrari for example who are separate from the top or Chevy and Opel who are owned by GM, it's still split). I know this is really picky and annoying but that's just how the comp creator wants it.
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Alright, let's take a dive into the world of livery making, since there seems to be some confusion on how things work in the world of a race car's paint job. Liveries, for those that don't know, are massive political landscapes. The 1999 BAR F1 cars are examples of such politics and what comes out as a result. The year before, BAR wanted to run one car in the Lucky Strike paint scheme, and the other in the 555. F1/FIA said no, so the following season we got the split livery, an unapologetic middle finger to the rule mongers of F1.
@D-Max I don't recall reading that there's a requirement for only one title sponsor permitted. Plenty of race cars have multiple sponsors plastered all over their racecars. Here's an example:
Hey look at that! It's a race car that has BP and Castrol branding, at one of the top echelons of motorsport no less. Not only that, but it also features sponsorship from Ford, Abu Dhabi and Karcher. Is this an attractive livery? Not necessarily. Is it a split livery? No. It is symmetrical however, and it's the result of five different sponsors all requiring their logos and branding be featured on the car a certain way. bp ultimate clearly mandated it be featured on a light green background. Castrol required a dark green. Abu Dhabi wanted a red, Ford a Blue and Karcher a white. All wanted equal space on each side of the car they were featured on.
My livery, being asymmetrical and not based on any pre-existing liveries (it was inspired by the '93 BP GT-R and the '99 Mugen Castrol NSX though), was able to feature bp prominently on one side, and Castrol on the other as well as the front. I chose a yellow field to put the bp logo on as I felt that would be more akin to their branding and would contrast with the Castrol side.
Let's look at another livery that's the result of series politicking and sets additional precedent for Fuel and Lubricant co-sponsorship:
Joey Logano's Penske Ford just won the NASCAR championship this season. It's symmetrical and very much Shell-oriented. It's the result of NASCAR's fuel supplier Sunoco requiring any rival company to feature it's lubricant brand in addition to their fuel brand in order to sponsor a car in the series.
Last but not least, one more example. Symmetrical as well and featuring Castrol no less:
I had never heard of ARAL ultimate before, but even as I googled it, I guessed to myself, "It's probably bp's German subsidiary." Boy wouldn't you know how much I hate being right? Naturally, ARAL's corporate colors are blue, so it's brand would, of course, be featured on a blue field. Castrol is again featured on a green field. Is it symmetrical? Yes. Is it a split livery? As I'm sure you've likely seen this livery before and not even considered it as such, I'd say the answer to the Audi (and now BMW that features it) as well as both Ford's above is "no". But they are very symmetrical!
So to end off, just because I followed the competition brief in making an asymmetrical livery does not automatically mean it's a split livery just because I did what every livery ever has had to do. That being distinctly feature the primary sponsors in their own fields of color. Even if those fields were determined by my own choosing.
Regardless, I updated my entry anyways and cleaned up a few things while I was at it.
@D-Max I don't recall reading that there's a requirement for only one title sponsor permitted. Plenty of race cars have multiple sponsors plastered all over their racecars. Here's an example:
My livery, being asymmetrical and not based on any pre-existing liveries (it was inspired by the '93 BP GT-R and the '99 Mugen Castrol NSX though), was able to feature bp prominently on one side, and Castrol on the other as well as the front. I chose a yellow field to put the bp logo on as I felt that would be more akin to their branding and would contrast with the Castrol side.
Let's look at another livery that's the result of series politicking and sets additional precedent for Fuel and Lubricant co-sponsorship:
Joey Logano's Penske Ford just won the NASCAR championship this season. It's symmetrical and very much Shell-oriented. It's the result of NASCAR's fuel supplier Sunoco requiring any rival company to feature it's lubricant brand in addition to their fuel brand in order to sponsor a car in the series.
Last but not least, one more example. Symmetrical as well and featuring Castrol no less:
I had never heard of ARAL ultimate before, but even as I googled it, I guessed to myself, "It's probably bp's German subsidiary." Boy wouldn't you know how much I hate being right? Naturally, ARAL's corporate colors are blue, so it's brand would, of course, be featured on a blue field. Castrol is again featured on a green field. Is it symmetrical? Yes. Is it a split livery? As I'm sure you've likely seen this livery before and not even considered it as such, I'd say the answer to the Audi (and now BMW that features it) as well as both Ford's above is "no". But they are very symmetrical!
So to end off, just because I followed the competition brief in making an asymmetrical livery does not automatically mean it's a split livery just because I did what every livery ever has had to do. That being distinctly feature the primary sponsors in their own fields of color. Even if those fields were determined by my own choosing.
Regardless, I updated my entry anyways and cleaned up a few things while I was at it.
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So a livery like this wouldn't be allowed?
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While this is my first time submitting an entry, I have been following and voting in these competitions for some time, and I think the point @baldgye makes sums it up best.
If the person picking the topic isn't going to police in a timely manner (and it seems that they don't, more often than not), then something should change to make things much more cut and dry to avoid these debates and derailments.
If the person picking the topic isn't going to police in a timely manner (and it seems that they don't, more often than not), then something should change to make things much more cut and dry to avoid these debates and derailments.
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No, it wouldn’t, as it is « just » colour switching from side to side.So a livery like this wouldn't be allowed?
Unfortunately indeed, @Noisy is not often around, and his restrictions will need some advice in the thread. If it was only me, @CorvairGuy69 first entry with the Corvette was a split livery but @Snaeper RX-7 isn’t. For me, « Split » implies a kind of On/Off from side to side, while in this case, the design is still continuous.
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He edited the design, it was more of an on/off before with the BP part being yellowish while the rest was black.
I do agree that the theme creator should be around more to moderate his/her own contest, or the NaCl will start flowing all over the place.
Btw, this is the last time I post anything that is not my final entry in the topic, just to be on the safe side.
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Because I wasn't sure of the Audi E-Tron / Hugo Boss design was following the strict rules. Did I make an extra livery so that would surely follow all the rules....... So I build further on f my Air Seychelles livery which had been completed after an earlier livery competition. A few of the decals can look familiar because I already created them for @ss3 which use the decals in a livery for the GTLivery challenge 15: National pride... Design a livery that represents a nation!
I update a few of the decals and made a non-symmetric livery which you all can enjoy!! I hope you like the vivid colors and the ease of the breeze.....
@Cytoria thanx for the beautiful photoshoot the car looks even better!
Air Seychelles Livery
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If this is too close to a color swap, let me know, and I'll make something else.
I was struggling to get anywhere with the first few ideas I had, but I really like how this Alfa turned out. I initially intended it to be more asymmetrical, but I couldn't get any of the lines I wanted to fit the curves, so I simplified it.
It was definitely a challenge to go outside the comforts of symmetry.
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