The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

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Looking at the track list so far...looks like they've given up on the American fanbase and are focusing on their biggest market, Europe. Sebring, Road Atlanta, Road America, Circuit of the Americas, Long Beach, etc etc are still missing. And no word on NASCAR returning

Oh my god, well us brits never had a racetrack, how do we feel? And it was confirmed all cars from GT5 will be back...

And wow, PD focus on there biggest market, oh how dare they!
 
Looking at the track list so far...looks like they've given up on the American fanbase and are focusing on their biggest market, Europe. Sebring, Road Atlanta, Road America, Circuit of the Americas, Long Beach, etc etc are still missing. And no word on NASCAR returning

To be honest here, American tracks are really not that interesting. Personally I wouldn't mind some more American circuits, but I can understand why they are mostly ignored. Also the American fan base will get Willow Springs and probably Seattle that should be enough. I vote for more British tracks.
 
Placeholder Goodwood...placeholder Silverstone..Did you guys like the new Autum Ring? guess what, it's a placeholder too..

I'm guessing the next big twist is that you're a placeholder and the "real" PepeMickey is a much more effective troll, right? :rolleyes:
 
To be honest here, American tracks are really not that interesting. Personally I wouldn't mind some more American circuits, but I can understand why they are mostly ignored. Also the American fan base will get Willow Springs and probably Seattle that should be enough. I vote for more British tracks.

There are plenty of interesting American tracks if you look.

Apart from the already mentioned Road America, Sebring and Watkins Glen, you have Road Atlanta, VIR, Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock, and the new Circuit of the Americas off the top of my head. Mosport is in Canada, but it's pretty close and that's great too, as is the Montreal GP track.

That's quite a lot of good tracks, and that's without getting anywhere near the ovals, some of which have quite good road courses attached as well if oval racing isn't your thing.

It's quite a big thing to write off an entire continent of race tracks. They can't all be stinkers.
 
Australian tracks are the ones should be getting more attention by PD :) We only get Bathurst, what about Oran Park - must have this ( closed in 2010 :( ), Calder Park, Sandown, Barbagallo, Eastern Creek, Mallala, Wakefield Park, Phillip Island GP track, Albert Park, Surfers Paradise, and we are not even talking NZ track ( Lake Taupo ) :D

EDIT : Forgot another must have - top priority for me : Guia Macau GP track :)

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Australian tracks are the ones should be getting more attention by PD :) We only get Bathurst, what about Oran Park - must have this ( closed in 2010 :( ), Calder Park, Sandown, Barbagallo, Eastern Creek, Mallala, Wakefield Park, Phillip Island GP track, Albert Park, Surfers Paradise, and we are not even talking NZ track ( Lake Taupo ) :D

EDIT : Forgot another must have - top priority for me : Guia Macau GP track :)

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Only problem is every person will want their local tracks but if PD somehow travelled the world for months/years and catered to everybody's needs the tracklist would be immense.

Never gonna happen though, you can't please everybody.
 
That sounds... Odd.

Anyhow honestly why people should judge GT6 on a demo is beyond my understanding.

What should we base our judgments for what GT6 might be then, GT5?

The GT Academy demo was released for precisely that reason: demonstrative purposes. To expect anyone to not evaluate things as they're provided makes little if any sense at all.
 
Yes, theres hope for DLC, but the other boys have had many of the big American tracks for a while now. Its going to be dissappointing if there isnt a new North American track featured in GT6. Reminds me of how I struggled to come up with a 10 car wishlist for 'the other game', because it already had almost every car I wanted in GT.

Just highlights for me how far GT has fallen behind in the racing genre. They have to start taking BIG steps, or they will never catch up.
 
What should we base our judgments for what GT6 might be then, GT5?

The GT Academy demo was released for precisely that reason: demonstrative purposes. To expect anyone to not evaluate things as they're provided makes little if any sense at all.

I can understand people taking it as an indication of the final product, but its the people who complain about engine sounds (placeholders), the physics model when it is clearly not finalised (tyre model anyone?), and the graphics (the frame rate drops.) A demo's point is to tease people and see what people think. If people report drastic frame rate drops, PD will take notice and perhaps try to sort that in the final product. On the sound topic, I will say PD really did a poor job with the Goodwood sound dub though.
 
I can understand people taking it as an indication of the final product, but its the people who complain about engine sounds (placeholders)

And you don't think they have reason to do so? It's been the better part of more than a decade and a half, so you might want to excuse people who are less than optimistic about something that hasn't been given much attention over the years.

Even more so when something to the effect "We're working on it but it may or may not make it into the final game" is uttered.


the physics model when it is clearly not finalised (tyre model anyone?), and the graphics (the frame rate drops.)

Again, given the competition that's out you can't really expect people to be as accepting as they would have been 7 or 8 years ago.

A demo's point is to tease people and see what people think. If people report drastic frame rate drops, PD will take notice and perhaps try to sort that in the final product.

Precisely. Seeing it from their point of view however, a demo sporting a new rendering engine and still suffers from framerate issues and aliasing wouldn't exactly instill confidence in me once the final product rolls around, disclaimer or no disclaimer.
 
I am curious to why people are defending the game here, this is supposed to be a thread talking about the negative aspecs of this game so far right?

I think my last few issues with the game are the amount of events since GT5's event count was very small and the seasonals only helped a little. I hope GT6 has as many events as GT4 or more. I want to be entertained for a while.

The other issue is if PD will be able to keep sending dlc to the PS store each month. I mean, they tried that with GT5; except for every 2 months and it kinda failed since they couldn't keep up due to GT Academy and other things. That would be one of my bigger disappointments of the game.
 
I am curious to why people are defending the game here, this is supposed to be a thread talking about the negative aspecs of this game so far right?

I too wonder about this all the time. You would think people who hate the complaining would avoid this thread.
 
I find the complaints funny. :lol:

I only bothered disagreeing with Earth because what he said was ridiculous and easy to disprove. Everything else is just because I'm bored. :P
 
There are plenty of interesting American tracks if you look.

Apart from the already mentioned Road America, Sebring and Watkins Glen, you have Road Atlanta, VIR, Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock, and the new Circuit of the Americas off the top of my head. Mosport is in Canada, but it's pretty close and that's great too, as is the Montreal GP track.

That's quite a lot of good tracks, and that's without getting anywhere near the ovals, some of which have quite good road courses attached as well if oval racing isn't your thing.

It's quite a big thing to write off an entire continent of race tracks. They can't all be stinkers.

Those American tracks are definitely interesting and deserve full consideration. Mosport in Canada would be a great addition along with Mont Treblant and Trois-Rivieres. I think PD would be well served to spread the new tracks around between countries big and small. The broader the base of tracks I think the broader the fanbase.
 
Those American tracks are definitely interesting and deserve full consideration. Mosport in Canada would be a great addition along with Mont Treblant and Trois-Rivieres. I think PD would be well served to spread the new tracks around between countries big and small. The broader the base of tracks I think the broader the fanbase.

Mont Treblant is one of my all time favorite tracks and Gilles Villenueve (don't know if I spelled it correctly) should be in there as well.
 
Those American tracks are definitely interesting and deserve full consideration. Mosport in Canada would be a great addition along with Mont Treblant and Trois-Rivieres. I think PD would be well served to spread the new tracks around between countries big and small. The broader the base of tracks I think the broader the fanbase.

If Mont Tremblant is the track I'm thinking of from Ferrari Challenge, that was an awesome track. So many different lines, so difficult to get exactly right.
 
There are plenty of interesting American tracks if you look.

Apart from the already mentioned Road America, Sebring and Watkins Glen, you have Road Atlanta, VIR, Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock, and the new Circuit of the Americas off the top of my head. Mosport is in Canada, but it's pretty close and that's great too, as is the Montreal GP track.
I was going to mention those too, and want to echo JohnnyP's remarks. And if you include city courses, which you really should, there are some great races held in Orlando, Toronto, and I believe Chicago. I also miss New York.

I think some people actually enjoy arguing against other people complaining.
Well... for a guy who seems to like spending most of his time nitpicking people's posts like a Jewish lawyer mother-in-law, among one or two others here, I'm not sure I'd protest that much... but true, if they don't like criticism of Gran Turismo, this sure isn't going to be a fun thread. ;)
 
If Mont Tremblant is the track I'm thinking of from Ferrari Challenge, that was an awesome track. So many different lines, so difficult to get exactly right.

Yes it's from those games, such a simple track yet really challenging.
 
Looking at the track list so far...looks like they've given up on the American fanbase and are focusing on their biggest market, Europe. Sebring, Road Atlanta, Road America, Circuit of the Americas, Long Beach, etc etc are still missing. And no word on NASCAR returning

How many EU tracks are still missing then? Tracks that are much better than alot of US tracks too.

How many people will be sad to see NASCAR go? I know I won't. NASCAR caters to a niche market. Everything else is pretty much universal.
 
Well... for a guy who seems to like spending most of his time nitpicking people's posts like a Jewish lawyer mother-in-law, among one or two others here, I'm not sure I'd protest that much... but true, if they don't like criticism of Gran Turismo, this sure isn't going to be a fun thread. ;)

:lol: It's fun reading all the banter, entertaining and at times funny :lol:
 
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