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Over ANY US track? Really?
The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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Over ANY US track? Really?
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Yep, thats what I wrote.
IOM TT, old Spa & Südschleife especially. Rather see these 3 over alot of tracks, not just US ones.
Need some South American circuits too. Interlagos is a must.
IOM TT, old Spa & Südschleife especially. Rather see these 3 over alot of tracks, not just US ones.
Need some South American circuits too. Interlagos is a must.
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I don't care what country the circuit is in, as long as it's interesting.
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This is a more rational opinion, rather than simply stating that no tracks that are in the US can be good. I disagree, obviously, but at least now you're not writing off an entire continent of racetracks simply because it happens to be populated by Americans.
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Magny Cours is the worst race track in the world. Even tracks blant and stupid as Circuit de Catalunya or Yas Marina Circuit look exciting as the 70s Nordschleife compared to it. Thank god F1 moved away from it.
There are many great tracks in the US, my favourite one is Watkins Glen. I would definitely take this one over most you named here and Im a die hard F1 fan.
Also, as much as I would love to race on old monza or the old Nordschleife/Gesamtschleife, PD should not touch such tracks.
First, we have no classic F1 cars to race with. We have classic sportscars (but only 3 premiums! And its unlikely that GT6 gets more), but Kaz would just throw in the Toyota 7 to troll us and see a Japanese car winning.
Second, PD already made poor use of other tracks and licenses (LM 24h: no classes, mixing group Cs with LMPs; N24h: racing with prototypes instead of GTs, Nascar, Wrc, Dtm), I bet even if Kaz announces both Monza oval and old Ring today, we would just get a 8h Miata enduro on the Monza oval and not a single a spec event on the Ring lol
Third, no way on earth you could recreate those tracks, especially the old ring. I would love racing on the old ring and take the Karusell, which had no banking back then, as its name sake Rudi Caraciolla did (won 6 times on it lol), but how could Kazs team recreate tracks this old?
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Honestly I feel like you've named half of these circuits purely because motorsport categories that you follow host races at them.
There is nothing extraordinary about Oschersleben, Le Mans Bugatti, Magny Cours, Valencia, Hockenheimring, Snetterton, Adria, Nogaro, Rockingham, or Estoril. You've even named an airfield circuit that hosts no racing. They're all flat and featureless with minimal corner variation. If these tracks were in the USA instead of Europe, would you even consider them good at all?
You seem to like fast, flowing, undulating circuits. Yet 90% of what you just listed doesn't fall under any of those categories. I can't understand how you would justify saying these circuits being better on merit than Watkins Glen, Mont Tremblant, Mosport Park or Road America.
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These 3 :
Sandown : 2 long straight for power oriented cars
Barbagallo :
Wakefield Park :
Sandown : 2 long straight for power oriented cars
Barbagallo :
Wakefield Park :
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I want Zolder in GT6...
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@ShiftingGears- 
I listed most of those just for a laugh. Thats why I stated that not all, but some are worth putting into GT over US tracks.
I do like undulating tracks, I also like flat ones too. Just like boobies.
In the EU, we have countless circuits, test tracks, hillclimb stages, rally stages, drag strips etc.
Motor sport was born in the EU so it deserves recognition first.
I'm not saying all US tracks aren't any good. I just think that this side of the pond has the historic value. I also prefer EU cars over US.
@alonsof1fan91- Of course old tracks can be recreated. Hasn't it all been done on PC sims?
And, so what if we don't have enough classic cars to go with the old tracks. Thats the beauty of the virtual world, take your modern car back in time from the comfort of your own home.
I listed most of those just for a laugh. Thats why I stated that not all, but some are worth putting into GT over US tracks.I do like undulating tracks, I also like flat ones too. Just like boobies.
In the EU, we have countless circuits, test tracks, hillclimb stages, rally stages, drag strips etc.
Motor sport was born in the EU so it deserves recognition first.
I'm not saying all US tracks aren't any good. I just think that this side of the pond has the historic value. I also prefer EU cars over US.
@alonsof1fan91- Of course old tracks can be recreated. Hasn't it all been done on PC sims?
And, so what if we don't have enough classic cars to go with the old tracks. Thats the beauty of the virtual world, take your modern car back in time from the comfort of your own home.
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@ShiftingGears-
I do like undulating tracks, I also like flat ones too. Just like boobies.
In the EU, we have countless circuits, test tracks, hillclimb stages, rally stages, drag strips etc.
I'm not saying all US tracks aren't any good. I just think that this side of the pond has the historic value. I also prefer EU cars over US.
Your attempt at having a laugh reads more like you backing out of your original statement. I also don't see the logic in claiming "historic value" of as European motorsport as a basis for track inclusion and then proceeding to list dozens of tracks that were built in the 1980's and 1990's. Not exactly in any way historic, especially considering that the USA has been motor racing on ovals and road courses for over 100 years.
Now you're having a laugh.
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I am curious about what's next: Gamescom is in August and we just know some facts (Silverstone/Goodwood/Willow Springs, about 200 new cars, new physics/rendering engine/aerodynamics, new garage with more details at a glance, more tuning options) about GT6.
Hope, there's much more to come soon:
- release date (before or after PS4-release as one could steal the other's show)
- livery editor/decals?
- additional A-spec events via DLC?
- how will championship mode work?
- improvements in online mode detailed?
- will there be a season pass for DLC?
Hope, there's much more to come soon:
- release date (before or after PS4-release as one could steal the other's show)
- livery editor/decals?
- additional A-spec events via DLC?
- how will championship mode work?
- improvements in online mode detailed?
- will there be a season pass for DLC?
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Great. So instead of having the tracks that are the best to drive on, we'll have the oldest tracks. Are we just going to look at them, or what?
And why do we bother putting modern cars in the game? Let's all drive around in Model Ts and Austin Sevens.
Get over yourself and realise a good track is a good track, regardless of where it's from.
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No, its true, I knew they would get up peoples noses.
It goes back to me pushing peoples buttons. The few truly historic circuits I listed do deserve to be included above any track in world IMO, not just the US.
Historic value is very important. The stories, the legends that raced there, the tragedies etc. Plus, tracks that are gone forever should be remembered in some form and GT is a great vessel.
I would like to see the strip down at Brighton recreated over any drag strip ANYWHERE because its historic (1905), cool and has a great location.
It used to have a 1km 1 on 1 run in the past, now its just individuals against the clock on a 1/4 mile strip. Computers have the power to give it all back.
Some of the old tracks were closed because they were too dangerous so i'm sure they're not boring. IOM TT is an incredible circuit, not dull at all.
I never said I wanted old cars, quite the opposite really.
And I have continually stated that tracks in the US aren't rubbish, just that the EU has more to give first.
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I want the tracks to be accurate as possible. Not just the layout, but also bumps etc. Monaco in GT5 f.e. has the correct layout, but the track is still very inaccurate. The surface is too flat, almost no bumps.
If PD can give us Monza Oval or classic Spa/Nordschleife in equal quality as the Spa/Nordschleife track we already have, then yes, why not.
Still, having no(t enough) classic GP cars or sportcars still *ucks... I don`t want to see Monza Oval only being used in lobbies named "DRAAAAGGG RACNING" and full of Veyrons or X1s.
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Very well. At what point do you say that we have enough European tracks and it's allowable to add tracks from America? Are tracks from Asia, Oceania and Africa included in this lockout, or are they acceptable because they're not "Yankee" tracks?
How long are you going to attempt to maintain that tracks are better simply because of the location they're built in?
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Don't get me wrong, tracks from all over the world should be in there. Give me the 3 that I stated and everything else can follow.
I also never used the derogatory term 'yankee' so check yourself.
The fact that those tracks are in the EU is not a mistake. The EU is the home of motorsport, we're bound to have some epic tracks. If the Nurburgring was in the US, my stance would be different.
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And finally we get to the point. You are in fact after the best tracks in the world. That they (in your opinion) happen to be in the EU is largely a coincidence. That you managed to tack on the trendy putdown to US tracks there was just a distraction.
In motorsport, generally the aim is for the best to win regardless of other factors, be they gender, race, disabilities or whatever. I think fundamentally you understand that the same is true of choosing the best race tracks. We don't choose them because they're European. We choose them because they're the best.
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Are you serious?
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I'd say him wanting Interlagos is proof enough that he wants the best tracks from wherever, not just Europe. Or was there another reason for that question?
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i just got GT5
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i just got GT5
Wow..
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i just got GT5
Well, you probably didn't pay much for it.
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i know im late and all but still no regrets
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How long until release? That says it's not finalised, that and all of the different build versions seen so far - therfore logic says it.
Earth does come out with some corkersI find the complaints funny.
I only bothered disagreeing with Earth because what he said was ridiculous and easy to disprove. Everything else is just because I'm bored.
Le Mans seems to have escaped your attention.
