The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[JulesJackson]

I haven't laughed so hard for a long long time.
I need a vacation, I guess...

This is what happens when the the LBGT agenda is pushed. A government that supports pedophilia is just disgusting (Still part of the gay Agenda).
http://www.rense.com/general71/legal.htm
America needs a Putin, but thanks to Barrack, everyone is becoming feminized. Next thing people are going to start defending Nambla, saying how could you be so closed minded?

 

[Bo]

This is what happens when the the LBGT agenda is pushed. A government that supports pedophilia is just disgusting (Still part of the gay Agenda).
http://www.rense.com/general71/legal.htm
America needs a Putin, but thanks to Barrack, everyone is becoming feminized. Next thing people are going to start defending Nambla, saying how could be so closed minded?

Firstly, how is a Dutch political party associated with homosexuality? Are you suggesting that LGBT accepting societies encourage pedophilia?

Secondly, "feminized"? Are you the kind of person who thinks that being normal and accepting isn't right for a stereotypical "tough guy" image?

 

[Denur]

This is what happens when the the LBGT agenda is pushed. A government that supports pedophilia is just disgusting (Still part of the gay Agenda).
http://www.rense.com/general71/legal.htm

Hahaha, please stop, you're cracking me up. That political party was old news before it got started and never got a representative elected. Tell me again, what is that gay Agenda (with a capital A no less) again? If you think that we are going to take over the world, you got it right buster. First we'll get rid of all the religious folk, then the remaining straight people and of course, in the end we'll have the children for supper, after we raped them all.

 

[JulesJackson]

America is becoming "too soft"? How is it "too soft"?

At the end of the day, all LGBT people is to receive the same respect and have the same dignity as straight people. They want equality - what's "special" about that?

You're contradicting yourself with that statement. It's sort of like animal farm, you know some animals are more equal than others, that being the LBGT getting special treatment. America's principle was the best man for the job/task now it's the emotional, softer man for the job.

 

[Bo]

You're contradicting yourself with that statement. It's sort of like animal farm, you know some animals are more equal than others, that being the LBGT getting special treatment. America's principle was the best man for the job/task now it's the emotional, softer man for the job.

What if they're the best person because they have emotional intelligence, and can live like a respectable human being in a modern and accepting society?

 

[TenEightyOne]

This is what happens when the the LBGT agenda is pushed. A government that supports pedophilia is just disgusting

Freedom of speech. Hopefully they'll get no support and the private activities of these people will be investigated to ensure they're not privately causing harm to children.

government that supports pedophilia is just disgusting (Still part of the gay Agenda)

I'm asking you to retract that statement please, @Scaff or other mods... can I do such a thing? Saying gay people are pederasts or that paedophilia is somehow part of the 'Gay Agenda' is just utterly wrong and defamatory on every level. They're not mutually exclusive but certainly not linked any more than other sexualities.

but thanks to Barrack, everyone is becoming feminized.

Hang on, being gay is being feminine? Wow, I could take you to some places that would change your mind if you survived.

Next thing people are going to start defending Nambla, saying how could you be so closed minded?

Please define paedophilia from your understanding, then define homosexuality, then define how you believe them to be linked. That's just a lunatic line to draw between them, another reason that I still feel as though you're just fanning the flames for the hell of it.

 

[Famine]

Ironically, LGBT people want to stop getting special treatment and just be treated the same as everyone else by the government that is supposed to represent and treat everyone equally.

Since they're people.


Incidentally, I'm not sure how a guy who rapes little girls is homosexual. Can you explain it for me?

 

[DK]

You're contradicting yourself with that statement. It's sort of like animal farm, you know some animals are more equal than others, that being the LBGT getting special treatment. America's principle was the best man for the job/task now it's the emotional, softer man for the job.

How many times must this be drilled into you: the majority of LGBT people want equality.

When has "equality" = "special treatment"? Was repealing Jim Crow Laws giving black people "special treatment"? Was allowing women to vote giving them "special treatment"? Was the decision to not establish a national religion in the US Constitution "special treatment" for religious minorities?

 

[JulesJackson]

What if they're the best person because they have emotional intelligence, and can live like a respectable human being in a modern and accepting society?

Ohhh I'm starting to get jitterbugs!. Aren't they given full rights in the western world? Most of the states they can marry, let alone majority of countries, what more do they want, reparations for being gay? The gay card is overplayed.

How many times must this be drilled into you: the majority of LGBT people want equality.

When has "equality" = "special treatment"? Was repealing Jim Crow Laws giving black people "special treatment"? Was allowing women to vote giving them "special treatment"? Was the decision to not establish a national religion in the US Constitution "special treatment" for religious minorities?

Racism is a separate agenda and far more serious, than the LBGT holistic thinkers.

 

[Bo]

Ohhh I'm starting to get jitterbugs!. Aren't they given full rights in the western world? Most of the states they can marry, let alone majority of countries, what more do they want, reparations for being gay? The gay card is overplayed.

They want to be considered as just people. They want to just be accepted, like everyone else.

You don't really believe that.

 

[JulesJackson]

I haven't laughed so hard for a long long time.
I need a vacation, I guess...

Vacation destination club tropicana?

Have you ever heard of the word "empathy"? LGBT people also live in the real world, a real world that can be really horrible at times.

As I said before not my problem, not affecting me. That's how libertarians are.

 

[Famine]

Aren't they given full rights in the western world?

No.

As I said before not my problem, not affecting me. That's how libertarians are.

No.

 

[JulesJackson]

They want to be considered as just people. They want to just be accepted, like everyone else.

You don't really believe that.

Being who you are doesn't make you heroic.

No.No.

Western world blue tone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory
I'm indifference, I should have said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_choice

How many times must this be drilled into you: the majority of LGBT people want equality.

When has "equality" = "special treatment"? Was repealing Jim Crow Laws giving black people "special treatment"? Was allowing women to vote giving them "special treatment"? Was the decision to not establish a national religion in the US Constitution "special treatment" for religious minorities?

Then we really lowered our standards from Normandy, if coming out is considered heroic?

 

[Bo]

Being who you are doesn't make you heroic.

Coming out in a world where still, homosexuality is far from being globally accepted (and seeing as how some would rather have you dead than alive because of it), is brave. It's a big thing.

Would you not find it difficult to openly admit something which could not only be change how people perceive you forever, but could get you constant abuse? Would you be able to do that knowing the huge uphill struggle you'd face?

 

[JulesJackson]

Coming out in a world where still, homosexuality is far from being globally accepted (and seeing as how some would rather have you dead than alive because of it), is brave. It's a big thing.

Would you not find it difficult to openly admit something which could not only be change how people perceive you forever, but could get you constant abuse? Would you be able to do that knowing the huge uphill struggle you'd face?

Western world we're talking bout kiddo.

 

[Bo]

Western world we're talking bout kiddo.

This happened in my city:

Michael Causer (9 October 1989 - 2 August 2008) was a gay teenager living in Liverpool, England, who came to national attention in the United Kingdom when he was seriously assaulted because of his sexual orientation in the early hours on the morning of 25 July 2008 after a small house party.

He later died in the Walton Centre for Neurology and Neurosurgery after undergoing extensive emergency surgery to his brain.[1] He was 18 years old at the time of his death.

Michael's funeral was held on 2 October 2008 in a local church in Whiston where he lived.

Two teenage men, James O'Connor and Gavin Alker, were charged with the murder. A third man, Michael Binsteed, 19, tried to cover up the attack by helping dump Causer's body in the street and lied to police claiming he had been the victim of an attack by others.[2] He pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice.[3] Christopher Douglas was charged with witness intimidation in relation to the case.[4]

According to evidence put before the jury, the trigger-point for the violence came when Causer's attackers found sexually explicit images of him on his mobile phone as he slept upstairs in a house where a party had been held. This prompted a sustained and brutal attack as he slept leaving him with a fractured skull and a swollen brain.[5]

It was alleged that Alker, who had never met Causer, screamed, "You little queer faggot" and "He’s a little queer, he deserves it". During the trial, it was also claimed that Alker used a cigarette lighter to burn the hair on Mr Causer’s legs, and that threats were made to rip out his body piercings with a knife.[5]

Alker pleaded not guilty, claiming he had acted in self-defence, and blaming the attack on O'Connor. Alker was acquitted of murder and manslaughter. James O'Connor was convicted and sentenced to serve life with a minimum of 11 and a half years before he can be considered for parole after pleading guilty to murder. Michael Binsteed was convicted and sentenced to 34 weeks in custody, suspended for two years.[6]

A memorial fund was established,[4] initially to support Michael's family with funeral and legal expenses. Due to the generosity of the response to this fund, it developed into the Michael Causer Foundation, whose aim is to provide supported accommodation for vulnerable LGBT young people in the north West of England. It became a UK registered charity in July 2011.[7]

 

[Scaff]

@GTP_GTDOJO - Stop double and triple posting, its perfectly easy to edit your posts and multi-quote.

 

[JulesJackson]

No.No.

Hey Famine are you a genetics engineer or bio med?
The reason being do you know anything about lets say hormone levels between heterosexual males & gay males.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Would you not find it difficult to openly admit something which could not only be change how people perceive you forever, but could get you constant abuse? Would you be able to do that knowing the huge uphill struggle you'd face?

Western world we're talking bout kiddo.

You didn't answer the question.

And what's with the obsession with people's majors? What difference does it make to a lifetime of open-minded learning? I work as an "expert" in fields I have no Degree certificates in because I have a lot of lateral experience. What's your point?

 

[Bo]

You didn't answer the question.

I'll add to that with the story - if you were gay, would you still be blasé about coming out after reading that?

 

[JulesJackson]

This happened in my city:

Michael Causer (9 October 1989 - 2 August 2008) was a gay teenager living in Liverpool, England, who came to national attention in the United Kingdom when he was seriously assaulted because of his sexual orientation in the early hours on the morning of 25 July 2008 after a small house party.

He later died in the Walton Centre for Neurology and Neurosurgery after undergoing extensive emergency surgery to his brain.[1] He was 18 years old at the time of his death.

Michael's funeral was held on 2 October 2008 in a local church in Whiston where he lived.

Two teenage men, James O'Connor and Gavin Alker, were charged with the murder. A third man, Michael Binsteed, 19, tried to cover up the attack by helping dump Causer's body in the street and lied to police claiming he had been the victim of an attack by others.[2] He pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice.[3] Christopher Douglas was charged with witness intimidation in relation to the case.[4]

According to evidence put before the jury, the trigger-point for the violence came when Causer's attackers found sexually explicit images of him on his mobile phone as he slept upstairs in a house where a party had been held. This prompted a sustained and brutal attack as he slept leaving him with a fractured skull and a swollen brain.[5]

It was alleged that Alker, who had never met Causer, screamed, "You little queer faggot" and "He’s a little queer, he deserves it". During the trial, it was also claimed that Alker used a cigarette lighter to burn the hair on Mr Causer’s legs, and that threats were made to rip out his body piercings with a knife.[5]

Alker pleaded not guilty, claiming he had acted in self-defence, and blaming the attack on O'Connor. Alker was acquitted of murder and manslaughter. James O'Connor was convicted and sentenced to serve life with a minimum of 11 and a half years before he can be considered for parole after pleading guilty to murder. Michael Binsteed was convicted and sentenced to 34 weeks in custody, suspended for two years.[6]

A memorial fund was established,[4] initially to support Michael's family with funeral and legal expenses. Due to the generosity of the response to this fund, it developed into the Michael Causer Foundation, whose aim is to provide supported accommodation for vulnerable LGBT young people in the north West of England. It became a UK registered charity in July 2011.[7]

Hate crimes will always happen to anyone regardless of race,sex,religion, orientation.

 

[DK]

Then we really lowered our standards from Normandy, if coming out is considered heroic?

It is if you have to put up with the jeers of "queer"/"homo" regularly, and risk being disowned by your family. 40% of homeless youth are LGBT, and nearly 70% attribute that to being disowned by their families and 54% reported being abused by their family, as of 2012.

source: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/americas-shame-40-of-homeless-youth-are-lgbt-kids/

Need some tissue! Sniffle Sniffle. Hate crimes will always happen to anyone regardless of race,sex,religion, orientation.

You are beyond hope, and devoid of empathy. These are human beings we're talking about, and you're just dismissing this in the most vile, sarcastic way.

How would you like it if you were beaten to a bloody pulp by a gang of skinheads because of something you had no influence over?

 

[Famine]

Western world blue tone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

Now look at the different colours of blue, which tell you that, no, homosexuals are not "given full rights" (by which you mean "have their rights fully recognised") in the Western World.

Feel free to click on the "same sex marriage" link within the article, or scroll down and check out the big red Xs, to see just how wrong you are.

I'm indifference, I should have said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_choice

Supporting freedom of choice is a Libertarian attitude. Allowing freedom of choice to be curtailed because "not my problem" is not.

 

[Bo]

Need some tissue! Sniffle Sniffle. Hate crimes will always happen to anyone regardless of race,sex,religion, orientation.

Sarcastic response to a story like that. Revolting at best.

Also, you seem to be relaxed about hate crimes... that's fairly disturbing. Would you like someone to play the blasé sarcasm card against you if you were the one getting set alight and beaten to death?

 

[Agent_47]

If you want to change something real serious - provide a referendum then!

There have been votes at the state level to decide whether or not gay marriage bans were legal. The vast majority voted to keep the bans in place just like in California. Then when the gay crowd didn't like the result, went to the courts.

Here we go. Again. Good god, the number of Americans who have been completely indoctrinated by the far right is scary.

Look who's talking...

@ledhed14 Oh, okay. Just do the usual tin hat conspiracy lunacy nonsense and don't contribute anything meaningful.

Guess what? If you've ever touched a coin, the Feds have your DNA on file so they can clone you at any time. Sleep well.

yeah it's such a conspiracy. that is why congress investigated it and why lois lerner hid behind the fifth amendment the entire time and was held in contempt.

but hey when it's your guy in office, nothing is ever a scandal. not fast and furious, not benghazi, not the VA.

 

[Exorcet]

Ohhh I'm starting to get jitterbugs!. Aren't they given full rights in the western world? Most of the states they can marry, let alone majority of countries, what more do they want, reparations for being gay? The gay card is overplayed.

Just like heterosexuals which can be married in most states, but not all, and can't kiss on TV without some random guy shaking his head.

You're a striking example of why it's clear that LGBT people aren't being fairly treated. You're acting as if they're outcasts or that they're doing something wrong. You're demanding that they cover up and get out of your sight and you're putting your very biased world view above their rights.

Do you know what gays want? The ability to marry in all states and countries and for people like you to stop making them a big deal.

Racism is a separate agenda and far more serious, than the LBGT holistic thinkers.

And ism is a bad thing. However racism seems to be a weaker issue than homophobia is at the moment in developed nations. Most people seem to be over "other people" having rights. Gay's can't kiss on TV without people complaining about a made up agenda (because why would a [wo]man kiss a [wo]man that {s}he loved?). That people are offended by literally nothing is a serious issue.

There have been votes at the state level to decide whether or not gay marriage bans were legal. The vast majority failed just like in California. Then when the gay crowd didn't like the result, went to the courts.

You don't get to vote people's rights away. Any law banning gay marriage is wrong by default.

 

[Agent_47]

Just like heterosexuals which can be married in most states, but not all, and can't kiss on TV without some random guy shaking his head.

You're a striking example of why it's clear that LGBT people aren't being fairly treated. You're acting as if they're outcasts or that they're doing something wrong. You're demanding that they cover up and get out of your sight and you're putting your very biased world view above their rights.

Do you know what gays want? The ability to marry in all states and countries and for people like you to stop making them a big deal.



And ism is a bad thing. However racism seems to be a weaker issue than homophobia is at the moment in developed nations. Most people seem to be over "other people" having rights. Gay's can't kiss on TV without people complaining about a made up agenda (because why would a [wo]man kiss a [wo]man that {s}he loved?). That people are offended by literally nothing is a serious issue.


You don't get to vote people's rights away. Any law banning gay marriage is wrong by default.

Tell that to the anti-self defense crowd then too. Tell me, why was it put to a vote in the first place? Was it because of fairness, or a way to legitimize it? I don't think the bans should be there either, but two men playing house is not marriage.

 

[Scaff]

yeah it's such a conspiracy. that is why congress investigated it and why lois lerner hid behind the fifth amendment the entire time and was held in contempt.

but hey when it's your guy in office, nothing is ever a scandal. not fast and furious, not benghazi, not the VA.

I have already clearly stated in this thread what will happen if off topic conversations continue. Carry on in this vein if you wish to take a holiday from GT Planet.

The AUP is also not optional, please ensure your future posts follow it.

You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.

 

[Famine]

I don't think the bans should be there either, but two men playing house is not marriage.

Yes it is - and you already conceded that when you didn't address it earlier:

Nope. The Latin definition is "to provide with a husband or a wife". You can, under that definition, provide a man with a husband - or in fact any number of men, women or transgendered people - and that definition predates Christianity.

And "husband" means "house owner" and "wife" means "vagina".

"Playing house" is in fact exactly what marriage is.

 

[Agent_47]

Yes it is - and you already conceded that when you didn't address it earlier:"Playing house" is in fact exactly what marriage is.

No. It is only marriage if it's between one man and one woman, both above the age of 18.