Actually, that's given me a question for the gay community on GTP. If you see a guy you find attractive, say in a bar, would you try chatting him up? Would you ask if he was gay? Or would you not do anything? Given that there's a fairly small chance that he's gay (~10% IIRC), I find it to be an intriguing social conundrum.
I've never tried. In my experience 99% of the guys I've ever found a attractive have been straight. Of course I have a couple of gay friends who see that as a challenge...
Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.
FWIW, my experience of gay men hitting on me (that I was aware of) has been roughly 50/50, between making casual small talk and slowly getting to know more about me, and just straight up asking if I had a boyfriend.
The worst example of the other side of the coin was a creepy guy that tried to get me drunk at a friend's house, kept insisting I get undressed, flat-out told me I was lying when I said I was straight, and followed me part of the way back to where I was staying for the evening. One of his first "moves" involved grabbing my phone off me, adding himself to my contacts, and sending incredibly dirty gay jokes.
Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.
No, they're not trying to turn them gay, it's just the challenge of trying to pull a straight guy, it's usually much easier when they're drunk.
I suppose I don't understand that but it seems fairly disrespectful to be honest. I just don't see any true heterosexual male suddenly deciding to be homosexual because of some advances from some drunk dude.
Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.FWIW, my experience of gay men hitting on me (that I was aware of) has been roughly 50/50, between making casual small talk and slowly getting to know more about me, and just straight up asking if I had a boyfriend.
Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?I suppose I don't understand that but it seems fairly disrespectful to be honest. I just don't see any true heterosexual male suddenly deciding to be homosexual because of some advances from some drunk dude.
No, in this case, it's the straight guy that's drunk, but the gay guy can be too. Also, a one-night stand with another guy doesn't immediately make a straight guy gay, it just makes them a straight guy that's been with another guy before.
Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.
Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?
It's the hair.
Completely unacceptable from anyone. 👎
...it's usually much easier when they're drunk.
Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.
Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?
Also, wouldn't it be similar for a straight guy to try and talk to a lesbian woman? I hear those go south very quickly...
*hands up*Let's chalk it up to Toronto having a very large, thriving LGBTQ community as opposed to probably anywhere in SC. Also, the age difference between you and I.
No, it wouldn't. The problem is when they should stop there and move on... but they don't. I haven't heard of a straight woman raping gay men situation, and I haven't heard about a gay man raping a straight man situation much. The former isn't heard of, and the latter will end up in jail, in the hospital, or in the cemetery. However, a straight man raping a lesbian is more known about these days. They seem to think they have the power to convert a lesbian to be a heterosexual. That's what I was first thinking and was trying to make a point about. A gay man can't attempt to get with a straight guy with the best case scenario of what you did. A straight guy sometimes don't hold back while gay men have to... to a point."Hopes and dreams" would fill the straight guy's head with the lesbian situation too, though. Would you then say it wouldn't hurt to try for them?
Worst friend zone ever.It's just the "I like what i'm seeing, and I want to have it, so i'll work all the angles" kind of idea. It's like the fat kid in school trying to date the prom queen, even if he knows he doesn't have a shot. He'll still try his best to get her to like him.
The ultimate case of, "Hold my beer and watch this."No, they're not trying to turn them gay, it's just the challenge of trying to pull a straight guy, it's usually much easier when they're drunk.
So, by going to the bars at closing time and hitting on the drunk chicks feeling desperate after watching all their friends go home with guys means that chick I manage to pick up is actually attracted to me? Weird, they never called me back.A one-night stand, even drunken would imply that on some level the "straight" male has a sexual attraction to males, which I suppose would make him bisexual.
Also, wouldn't it be similar for a straight guy to try and talk to a lesbian woman? I hear those go south very quickly...
Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.
I can understand the latter. I don't understand the former however. I've never heard of a man who said that they were gay that actually aren't gay. Especially with how society in the past and currently tend to act towards gay guys (some of them), it's hard to see why some would choose to say that they are gay... unless they're trying to get closer to attractive women by using the 'gay' friend rubbish.Literally, you're right.
Actually though... it's a different matter. Men who say they are gay sometimes aren't. Men who say they're straight sometimes aren't.
I can understand the latter. I don't understand the former however. I've never heard of a man who said that they were gay that actually aren't gay. Especially with how society in the past and currently tend to act towards gay guys (some of them), it's hard to see why some would choose to say that they are gay... unless they're trying to get closer to attractive women by using the 'gay' friend rubbish.
I don't understand the former however. I've never heard of a man who said that they were gay that actually aren't gay.
Boob privileges.