The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%
  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%
  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%
  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 416 28.2%
  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%

  • Total voters
    1,476
I would have thought it was "Your hair looks great!"

At least that's the way people start conversations with me...
 
I've never tried. In my experience 99% of the guys I've ever found a attractive have been straight. Of course I have a couple of gay friends who see that as a challenge...
 
I'm not really the "go out and meet people" type of person. And even if I was, I don't think I'd ever have the balls to go up to some guy and ask him if he likes wieners as well. Would be... a bit embarrassing.
 
Actually, that's given me a question for the gay community on GTP. If you see a guy you find attractive, say in a bar, would you try chatting him up? Would you ask if he was gay? Or would you not do anything? Given that there's a fairly small chance that he's gay (~10% IIRC), I find it to be an intriguing social conundrum.

Nope! I don't have the guts to do something like that, hahaha, unless i was in a gay bar then i probably would (after one or six vodkas haha!)
 
A fake from EpicLol (or similar), but it's on-topic and made me smile :)

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I've never tried. In my experience 99% of the guys I've ever found a attractive have been straight. Of course I have a couple of gay friends who see that as a challenge...

Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.
 
Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.

I have to admit, I've been in that situation before. I had a crush on a friend of mine who is straight. I tried to figure out if he maybe wasn't just at least a little interested in guys, and in the long run, it hurt our friendship quite a bit. Why kept I bothering him about it? I liked him. And some part of my brain was hoping for him to be like me, still in the closet and afraid to speak up about it.

It's just the "I like what i'm seeing, and I want to have it, so i'll work all the angles" kind of idea. It's like the fat kid in school trying to date the prom queen, even if he knows he doesn't have a shot. He'll still try his best to get her to like him.
 
FWIW, my experience of gay men hitting on me (that I was aware of) has been roughly 50/50, between making casual small talk and slowly getting to know more about me, and just straight up asking if I had a boyfriend. In one instance of the former, we had a mutual friend celebrating her birthday, and he had stayed out with me at a coffee place after the bar. As she told it, he was interested, but as we talked over the hour or so, he realized I wasn't playing for the same team. He was a genuinely nice guy, and I enjoyed the conversation.

The worst example of the other side of the coin was a creepy guy that tried to get me drunk at a friend's house, kept insisting I get undressed, flat-out told me I was lying when I said I was straight, and followed me part of the way back to where I was staying for the evening. One of his first "moves" involved grabbing my phone off me, adding himself to my contacts, and sending incredibly dirty gay jokes.

In both situations, I couldn't help but think it's happened millions of times before, with people of all possible sexual orientations replacing either party.
 
In my experience talking to my gay friends there seems to be a 50/50 split of "Yes, you can tell" and "No, you just have to ask".

If gaydar is an actual thing with regards to identifying your average Joe Bloggs, then that would indicate that there are telltale cues and indications. But I don't think social gaydar functions like an MRI or CAT scan and can map neurological chemical balances.
 
FWIW, my experience of gay men hitting on me (that I was aware of) has been roughly 50/50, between making casual small talk and slowly getting to know more about me, and just straight up asking if I had a boyfriend.

It's the hair.

The worst example of the other side of the coin was a creepy guy that tried to get me drunk at a friend's house, kept insisting I get undressed, flat-out told me I was lying when I said I was straight, and followed me part of the way back to where I was staying for the evening. One of his first "moves" involved grabbing my phone off me, adding himself to my contacts, and sending incredibly dirty gay jokes.

Completely unacceptable from anyone. 👎
 
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Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.

No, they're not trying to turn them gay, it's just the challenge of trying to pull a straight guy, it's usually much easier when they're drunk.
 
No, they're not trying to turn them gay, it's just the challenge of trying to pull a straight guy, it's usually much easier when they're drunk.

I suppose I don't understand that but it seems fairly disrespectful to be honest. I just don't see any true heterosexual male suddenly deciding to be homosexual because of some advances from some drunk dude.
 
I suppose I don't understand that but it seems fairly disrespectful to be honest. I just don't see any true heterosexual male suddenly deciding to be homosexual because of some advances from some drunk dude.

No, in this case, it's the straight guy that's drunk, but the gay guy can be too. Also, a one-night stand with another guy doesn't immediately make a straight guy gay, it just makes them a straight guy that's been with another guy before.
 
FWIW, my experience of gay men hitting on me (that I was aware of) has been roughly 50/50, between making casual small talk and slowly getting to know more about me, and just straight up asking if I had a boyfriend.
Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.
I suppose I don't understand that but it seems fairly disrespectful to be honest. I just don't see any true heterosexual male suddenly deciding to be homosexual because of some advances from some drunk dude.
Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?


Also, wouldn't it be similar for a straight guy to try and talk to a lesbian woman? I hear those go south very quickly...
 
No, in this case, it's the straight guy that's drunk, but the gay guy can be too. Also, a one-night stand with another guy doesn't immediately make a straight guy gay, it just makes them a straight guy that's been with another guy before.

A one-night stand, even drunken would imply that on some level the "straight" male has a sexual attraction to males, which I suppose would make him bisexual.

Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.

Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?

Absolutely, there is no harm in trying at all. I only feel it is disrespectful if the man is obviously heterosexual and is shooting down the advances but they keep on coming. This goes for both parties and sexes as well, in my opinion.
 
It's the hair.

Crap. I just cut most of it off.

Completely unacceptable from anyone. 👎

Precisely. I think a fair amount of aggressive men could learn a thing or two from being put in that situation though; it made me realize how unwanted attention must feel like for girls.

...it's usually much easier when they're drunk.

To get people to do something they wouldn't normally do? As far as I know, that's frowned upon regardless of sexual orientation.

Well, aren't you a handsome looker? I have yet to experience that.

Let's chalk it up to Toronto having a very large, thriving LGBTQ community as opposed to probably anywhere in SC. Also, the age difference between you and I.

Hopes and dreams fill the gay guys mind when trying to get with an attractive guy who happens to be straight. It may be disrespectful, but it can't hurt to try, right?

Also, wouldn't it be similar for a straight guy to try and talk to a lesbian woman? I hear those go south very quickly...

"Hopes and dreams" would fill the straight guy's head with the lesbian situation too, though. Would you then say it wouldn't hurt to try for them?
 
Let's chalk it up to Toronto having a very large, thriving LGBTQ community as opposed to probably anywhere in SC. Also, the age difference between you and I.
*hands up*
Fair points... I was gonna ask what did you look like, but not appropriate...

"Hopes and dreams" would fill the straight guy's head with the lesbian situation too, though. Would you then say it wouldn't hurt to try for them?
No, it wouldn't. The problem is when they should stop there and move on... but they don't. I haven't heard of a straight woman raping gay men situation, and I haven't heard about a gay man raping a straight man situation much. The former isn't heard of, and the latter will end up in jail, in the hospital, or in the cemetery. However, a straight man raping a lesbian is more known about these days. They seem to think they have the power to convert a lesbian to be a heterosexual. That's what I was first thinking and was trying to make a point about. A gay man can't attempt to get with a straight guy with the best case scenario of what you did. A straight guy sometimes don't hold back while gay men have to... to a point.
 
It's just the "I like what i'm seeing, and I want to have it, so i'll work all the angles" kind of idea. It's like the fat kid in school trying to date the prom queen, even if he knows he doesn't have a shot. He'll still try his best to get her to like him.
Worst friend zone ever.

No, they're not trying to turn them gay, it's just the challenge of trying to pull a straight guy, it's usually much easier when they're drunk.
The ultimate case of, "Hold my beer and watch this."

A one-night stand, even drunken would imply that on some level the "straight" male has a sexual attraction to males, which I suppose would make him bisexual.
So, by going to the bars at closing time and hitting on the drunk chicks feeling desperate after watching all their friends go home with guys means that chick I manage to pick up is actually attracted to me? Weird, they never called me back.

Or it could be a case of being so drunk that a hole is a hole, be it ugly chick or a dude. Fact is that some guys can get in the mindset of "find somewhere close, preferably moist and warm, and insert." Mix in alcohol and people will do some very out-of-character things.
 
Do those friends believe people choose their homosexuality? They must if they think they can turn a straight man into a homosexual, if that was what you were getting at.

Literally, you're right.

Actually though... it's a different matter. Men who say they are gay sometimes aren't. Men who say they're straight sometimes aren't.
 
Literally, you're right.

Actually though... it's a different matter. Men who say they are gay sometimes aren't. Men who say they're straight sometimes aren't.
I can understand the latter. I don't understand the former however. I've never heard of a man who said that they were gay that actually aren't gay. Especially with how society in the past and currently tend to act towards gay guys (some of them), it's hard to see why some would choose to say that they are gay... unless they're trying to get closer to attractive women by using the 'gay' friend rubbish.
 
I can understand the latter. I don't understand the former however. I've never heard of a man who said that they were gay that actually aren't gay. Especially with how society in the past and currently tend to act towards gay guys (some of them), it's hard to see why some would choose to say that they are gay... unless they're trying to get closer to attractive women by using the 'gay' friend rubbish.

In a heterosexual environment bisexual men can feel forced to hide (or ignore) their full sexuality.

That can be just as true of men in a homosexual society.
 
And quite frankly, it isn't unheard of for someone of a duplicitous nature to outright lie about several aspects of their life in order to get whatever it is they're after.
 
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