The Human Comedy 1 - Tsukuba Circuit Impossible

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Sven Jurgens
How come the AI laps faster for some people than for others? Maybe if you start fast, the AI simply goes faster. They seem to have a schedule in mind where you should be in the rankings at various stages.

At least that's my experience in custom endurance races. They'll get massive boosts early on to keep you down, then slow up later in the race. If they pit before you, they'll close that gap in no time to get back to their 'spot'. Yet if you pit early, they slow down to let you catch up. Longer races in GT is basically learning how to manipulate the rubber banding :/
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This is the aspect of the game that I despise the most. I wish the AI would just lap consistently.
 
Based on the experience that you guys showed in this post, here's how I did it in my first try:

Stock car; only softened the rear to reduce oversteer for my taste, and help in the rain; I bought hards, intermediates and rain tires, but only used the first two. Hard difficulty.

First stint: Hard tires, fuel map 6 and short shift. Pit lap 26.

Second stint: Intermediates, also fuel map 6 and short shifting (except a little interval where I put map 1 to overtake a traffic jam). Pit lap 48, before ending the fuel due to the track drying.

Third stint: Hard tires, fuel map 1 full throttle. I recomend putting +60% of fuel so it could finish safely.

I won by 40+ seconds, with the 3rd place a lap down, just behind me, and I spun at the last stint due do misjudging the dry line at the exit of the last turn, which made me finish with 55 laps ( which is why I recommend 60 of fuel, for 1 more possible lap). I also recommend to be gentle with the intermediates, so they last longer, using the wet line outside of rubber to reduce wear (and be faster too XD).

My lap times were 1:01 to low 1:02 for the first dry stint, to +-1:12 full wet. Best lap of AI was 0:59, and mine was the last one, but I didn't pay attention XD.

Oh, and I reached P1 lap 30, only to be overtaken by the AI that would finish P2, since he was with soft tires and full throtle. Don't mind if he passes by and opens the gap, because you will have the strategic advantage.
 
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Warte
Based on the experience that you guys showed in this post, here's how I did it in my first try:

Stock car; only softened the rear to reduce oversteer for my taste, and help in the rain; brought hards, intermediates and rain tires, but only used the first two. Hard difficulty.

First stint: Hard tires, fuel map 6 and short shift. Pit lap 26.

Second stint: Intermediates, also fuel map 6 and short shifting (except a little interval where I put map 1 to overtake a traffic jam). Pit lap 48, before ending the fuel due to the track drying.

Third stint: Hard tires, fuel map 1 full throttle. I recomend putting +60% of fuel so it could finish safely.

I won by 40+ seconds, with the 3rd place a lap down, just behind me, and I spun at the last stint due do misjudging the dry line at the exit of the last turn, which made me finish with 55 laps ( which is why I recommend 60 of fuel, for 1 more possible lap). I also recommend to be gentle with the intermediates, so they last longer, using the wet line outside of rubber to reduce wear (and be faster too XD).

My lap times were 1:01 to low 1:02 for the first dry stint, to +-1:12 full wet. Best lap of AI was 0:59, and mine was the last one, but I didn't pay attention XD.
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Do you have the difficulty set to hardest? Seems it's consistent. Set it to easiest and the AI laps into the 57s. With 56 laps completed I was 3 laps down on the AI at the end lol. Then on hardest difficulty 55 laps easy first.
 
Sven Jurgens
Do you have the difficulty set to hardest? Seems it's consistent. Set it to easiest and the AI laps into the 57s. With 56 laps completed I was 3 laps down on the AI at the end lol. Then on hardest difficulty 55 laps easy first.
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Yes, I use the hard difficulty on default, so I didn't change. But I read your post about the easy one weirdly being faster...
 
DrifterJoe
I had no issues with it personally. Before starting I saw how many laps people on my rankings had done (56 laps), and based my first stint of the race on that. I pitted at the end of lap 26 or 27, earlier than the planned 28, due to the rain. I took inters and stayed on them when the track dried, as I saw there would be more rain coming. I took new inters when it became wet enough again, as the old ones had worn a bit. With 7 laps to go it was dry enough for RH once again, and I finished the race on those, doing 56 laps total just like the people on my rankings had done.

You see AI doing faster times because they use different tyres and push much more than they should be.
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The AI also has much higher traction.
 
Did it in first try. Raced with Race Soft, raised the height of the car a little bit to get under the PP limit.
1. stint race soft,
2. stint inters
3. stint inters
4. stint softs
Finished 15 sec. before the second place
 
I did two soft stints on fuel map 2 until the rain came. Didn’t really short shift at all. Which got me up to the top 4 by the time it started to rain.

Kept the inters on until the heavy rain came and switched to wets until a dry line appeared, then went back on the softs. I see no point in running the harder compounds with fuel the way it is. I still used fuel map 2 until the in/out laps.

That being said, short shifting does not feel as beneficial as it did in the previous game. I was better off turning the fuel map down, which was the opposite of GTS iirc.
 
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So what is your advice? To switch difficulty to hard to make the race easy? Or good car/setup? I tried every car/setup advices but no way can't win. Only I didn't try the difficulty changing
 
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That'll be a 1st for the Ai , giving you a right ole whooping lol, got too end of race and sarah said someit bout better luck next time, not bean was paid lol
 
Looking through the thread it seems to be the same issue plaguing the rest of the mission challenges. That's the roulette nature of the AI being different with every start of the mission. I guess I'll know to just cycle if I notice my AI are unnaturally fast. Thanks for the heads-up everyone!
 
Did it first attempt.

Closed the gap to 20 secs off the lead, then didn't seem to be making any ground. Pitted for tyres and fuel after about 17 laps, didn't pit when the rain came the first time, which put me in first, lived with the ~4 secs a lap I was loosing, as the track then dried. It then started mullering it down a few laps later, and I missed the pit entry, did a lap with two spins, came in for full wets and a top off of fuel (about 4 laps), I stayed on the Wets till the end of the race, and finished with a couple of laps to spare in the tank. Every lap I was turning the fuel map to 3 or 4 at T1, then winding it back down to 1 on the back straight for top speed, except for when the rain got heavy, when I just left it on 6. Lapped most of the field and finished 15 seconds ahead of P2 after coasting before the line to finish on the lap, rather than the next.

PP was 600 on the dot, fastest lap of the race was 1:00.6 and it wasn't mine, my fastest lap was about 1:02~. Difficulty was hard, left TCS on 1. If the rain hadn't come when it did, or came heavier the first time, I think I'd have been in trouble. Was on RH when I wasn't on full wets. If I did it again, I'd go for RS at the start, but I wasn't sure how fast they'd drop off. Did 54 laps. Could have done 55 if I hadn't backed off 10-15 secs on the last lap.

2 stops total.
 
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Won it on normal difficulty at the first attempt.

Three stops, first two stints on meds and the remainder on inters. It started raining on and off immediately after the first stop, but didn't get wet enough to force me back into the pits before I next needed fuel. Was a bit squeaky bum towards the end with knackered inters on a dry track but I heroically held it together.

Brought back to earth by a disappointing 6th at Trial Mountain.
 
I can confirm: hard difficulty makes the race easier.

On hard the fatest AI lap was about 1:00.8 before the rain and at the end of the race the fatest lap went to 59.7.

On easy the fatest AI lap was 58.7 before the rain and 57.5 after.

Now that's pretty funny. :lol:


I finished 1 lap ahead of everyone. First stint on racing hards. Second stop came 2 laps before the rain only because I was running low on fuel, so after 3 laps I had to pit again for inters.
And that's basically it. It's totally possible to finish the race with inters especially if you conserve fuel.

The AI gets a little confused with rain. They stop earlier to put inters, then again for wet and when the track is barely dry, they pit for inters and 6 laps later for hard/soft tires.
 
Just finished this, I had a short rain phase that I went through on fresh RHs (stupid me changed tires at the first dry pitstop) and then pitted for inters when the second rain arrived. With those I cruised to the end a lap in front of Miyazono. Did 56 laps.
 
The pole position AI was faster than me in my first attempt, I was only able to get a FL sub 1min before the rain appeared but it was beaten in the drying phase. But I managed to close the gap with just changing tires in the pits without refuelling once.

I had my Roadster TC fully built so I had it tuned to only permit RH tires, which would explain why the AI were faster as they used RS tires. The AI is ruthless with their superior traction but they can be held back with traffic. I had a 23 second lead that was closing at the end the race due to sticking with intermediates at the end but I won eventually.
 
I did this today before rage qutting.

The AI were lapping around 1minute, with fastest lap of 59s.

The thing that pissed me off is the AI cheating.
Track is a 1/3 wet, I go on inters, the leader stays out on soft slick, I am still losing time.
Track becomes 2/3wet, I go on Wets, AI stays out on inters, AI still is lapping faster than me even though I am hydroplaning with Wets.

I am only 35s behind the leader as the track starts to become dry, I decide to gamble and go to soft slick.
On the leaders outlap, I am only 4 or so seconds behind, on the final bend I get shunted by a lapped car, this sends me off the dry line and I just beeline for the wall and end up spinning like a top for 15seconds.
 
Grayfox
I did this today before rage qutting.

The AI were lapping around 1minute, with fastest lap of 59s.

The thing that pissed me off is the AI cheating.
Track is a 1/3 wet, I go on inters, the leader stays out on soft slick, I am still losing time.
Track becomes 2/3wet, I go on Wets, AI stays out on inters, AI still is lapping faster than me even though I am hydroplaning with Wets.

I am only 35s behind the leader as the track starts to become dry, I decide to gamble and go to soft slick.
On the leaders outlap, I am only 4 or so seconds behind, on the final bend I get shunted by a lapped car, this sends me off the dry line and I just beeline for the wall and end up spinning like a top for 15seconds.
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Doesnt sound like the ai were cheating.. personally starting to hate that word being thrown around casually.

You can race fairly easy on track 1/3 wet with race hards and you should use inters for 2/3.
Race doesn't get wet enough for full wets in my experience.

I was doing a few laps sub 59 on hards and the ai will use softs which isnt bad considering this track favours softs. In the wet i could pull away on equal tyres.

Was bumped like 4X by the ai onto the grass during a wet segment, lost a ton of time and still won by 20secs
Not sure where the cheating is.
 
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Suzuki-Cara
The Human Comedy is Lucas Ordonez being an absolute mad lad with that Bus in the Alsace endurance race. 🤣
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yep tried alsace with 3 or 4 diff cars even lashed out on the 11mill merc to have the bus fly past me again on a corner and gain 8sec before the laps done only made it bout 30mins into the race a few times even seen a few peeps say the chap 2j can do the race but the chap i brought can only go as low a 620pp maybe if you win the chap 2j not buy it maybe it can be lowered more on pp. I smashed the kyoto race with the radical with no pit stops for a easy win but had it set to hard changed settings to easy n races seemed to get harder on the other races maybe thats PD's Human Comedy laughing at us all.

Sven Jurgens
The plot thickens. I had the difficulty set to easy for low effort farming, so I set it to the hardest difficulty to compare. (Abandoned the hopeless attempt with the AI doing 0:57 laps). And what happens.... The AI is now lapping just over a minute. 1:00.172 FL in lap 33. The AI is keeping 12 to 14 sec ahead of me, matching my pace. So far I'm matching their pit stops, don't want to trigger their catch up boost if I jump them while they are in the pit. I'm in 3rd behind the two Japanese drivers.

So the difficulty slider does work, but like most other things PD does, it works backwards :lol: Aptly labeled the human comedy.

Edit: done deal. Easy victory after setting the difficulty to hardest :crazy:

The big rain came at the end, I followed the AI in for IM. Then after a while it started raining really hard, they pitted for heavy wets, I stayed on IM. IM are fine up to 220 kph in heavy rain, since you don't go faster at Tsukaba anyway... With them on Wets and me on IM I was still increasing the gap on them after jumping them in the pit. Then when the rain stops the AI cycles back to IM first, then on to Softs a couple laps later. I stuck it out on IM and changed for fuel and RM when the dry line was dry enough. 55 laps completed, half a lap ahead at the end while crashing earlier and taking too many pit stops.

The AI set the FL in the end at 59.9. I never got a lap in under 1:00. I could try with my tuned version now but no more credits to get. Nice that the prizes all add together, 1.2 mil total.
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i think they laughing at us mate set to easy its harder set to hard its easier im gonna try other races on hard after i win alsace on hard n then changed to easy for the others n AI seemed to get faster. Thr human Comedy

The Human Comedy is a semi-autobiographical coming-of-age novel by William Saroyan. The overall theme of the book is the examination of family dynamics; it specifically focuses on the relationship between an adolescent child and his family members when he has to assume the responsibilities of his deceased father. Most GT players would have been adolescent/teenagers when the 1st GT was released in the 90's it seems the deceased father is that the old GT games are deceased like father and we should have other responsibilities in life but we love playing GT games. The Human Comedy in my house is that my kids like to do the licences mission challenges and circuit experience when they not at work school or uni and im happy to grind away on the tracks i like in the cars i like to drive.
 
DeathGRiP
yep tried alsace with 3 or 4 diff cars even lashed out on the 11mill merc to have the bus fly past me again on a corner and gain 8sec before the laps done only made it bout 30mins into the race a few times even seen a few peeps say the chap 2j can do the race but the chap i brought can only go as low a 620pp maybe if you win the chap 2j not buy it maybe it can be lowered more on pp. I smashed the kyoto race with the radical with no pit stops for a easy win but had it set to hard changed settings to easy n races seemed to get harder on the other races maybe thats PD's Human Comedy laughing at us all.


i think they laughing at us mate set to easy its harder set to hard its easier im gonna try other races on hard after i win alsace on hard n then changed to easy for the others n AI seemed to get faster. Thr human Comedy

The Human Comedy is a semi-autobiographical coming-of-age novel by William Saroyan. The overall theme of the book is the examination of family dynamics; it specifically focuses on the relationship between an adolescent child and his family members when he has to assume the responsibilities of his deceased father. Most GT players would have been adolescent/teenagers when the 1st GT was released in the 90's it seems the deceased father is that the old GT games are deceased like father and we should have other responsibilities in life but we love playing GT games. The Human Comedy in my house is that my kids like to do the licences mission challenges and circuit experience when they not at work school or uni and im happy to grind away on the tracks i like in the cars i like to drive.
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Use the 240ZG with comfort mediums. Super efficient on gas. Only had to pit once where everyone else pits 3+ times.
 
I just won the MX-5 Endurance.

Used Hards
First pitstop was just for fuel
Second pit stop was for inters as well as fuel.
Track started to dry out and AI pitted for slicks
I held out on the inters as the track was starting to dry, this put me into the lead by 20s as I could see a teal band of rain coming in 60km away with light blue about 50km away

Started to rain when I was 10s in the lead, next lap I came in for new inters.
AI pitted for inters
Then the teal part hit. few laps later AI pit for wets, I still stay out on inters as that teal part wont last that long
AI later pits to inters as track starts to get less wet
With less than 10min remaining, I just pit in for a slicks and a splash and dash.
I won


Shakengandulf
Doesnt sound like the ai were cheating.. personally starting to hate that word being thrown around casually.

You can race fairly easy on track 1/3 wet with race hards and you should use inters for 2/3.
Race doesn't get wet enough for full wets in my experience.

I was doing a few laps sub 59 on hards and the ai will use softs which isnt bad considering this track favours softs. In the wet i could pull away on equal tyres.

Was bumped like 4X by the ai onto the grass during a wet segment, lost a ton of time and still won by 20secs
Not sure where the cheating is.
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I am not going to say I am a highly skilled GT racer,
Maybe its my setups on various cars, but the top 1/3 I hydro plane even with wets and if wets hydroplane with that inters would hydroplane with less.
 
Grayfox
I just won the MX-5 Endurance.

Used Hards
First pitstop was just for fuel
Second pit stop was for inters as well as fuel.
Track started to dry out and AI pitted for slicks
I held out on the inters as the track was starting to dry, this put me into the lead by 20s as I could see a teal band of rain coming in 60km away with light blue about 50km away

Started to rain when I was 10s in the lead, next lap I came in for new inters.
AI pitted for inters
Then the teal part hit. few laps later AI pit for wets, I still stay out on inters as that teal part wont last that long
AI later pits to inters as track starts to get less wet
With less than 10min remaining, I just pit in for a slicks and a splash and dash.
I won




I am not going to say I am a highly skilled GT racer,
Maybe its my setups on various cars, but the top 1/3 I hydro plane even with wets and if wets hydroplane with that inters would hydroplane with less.
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Im not either mate, gotta be very careful in the wet with brake application otherwise front wheels will lock up.

Congrats on winning it, was a fun race.
The ai could certainly get out the way more often.
 

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