The Human Comedy 1 - Tsukuba Circuit Impossible

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Only did tsukuba for now, didn't have time to check the others yet 😊
I gave a couple others a try briefly. For the KEI car race in an s660 with a racing transmission with the top end tuned down I was loosing ground out of corners and on the straights. Gave up after the ai spun me out.

For the Tokyo expressway I tried a few different cars. I found for some reason a tweaked wrx gr.4 was able to keep pace if it was in a draft. All the other cars I tried were loosing ground on the long straight. I finished 3rd with the wrx.

I'm a B rank driver at best, and all of this was on easy difficulty. I'm gonna try hard mode after work.

Edit:. I used the radical SR3 on the Kyoto endurance. 549pp. Won by almost a lap. Never had to stop for fuel with trim at 1 the whole time. So much fun driving this car.
 
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All the races It was easy for me, until i try Aslace race ..
Aslace race is not difficult is unfair..
Stupid
You need a car with swaped engine.
 
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I tried the Bac Mono race yesterday on Trial mountain. Best I could do was 1:10, most laps 1:11. The AI was doing 1:05 laps and lapped me in the end. I finished 11th, the top 5 were all a lap ahead. No idea how to find another 6 seconds per lap...

I was going flat out on SM, 2 pit stops. Maybe fuel saving to reduce it to 1 pit stop can work, yet my mediums were already pretty worn each time. While the AI drove more laps on softs than I did on mediums, always extending their lead.

At first I could only do 1:13 laps at best since the AI kept ramming me and diving in on me, dragging my lap times down to 1:17. Only after my first pit stop could I find some pace away from the AI. So maybe fuel saving at first will work, or pit early. Need to get away from the AI or can't race :/ Getting hit 5 times per lap is not fun.
 
I tried the Bac Mono race yesterday on Trial mountain. Best I could do was 1:10, most laps 1:11. The AI was doing 1:05 laps and lapped me in the end. I finished 11th, the top 5 were all a lap ahead. No idea how to find another 6 seconds per lap...

I was going flat out on SM, 2 pit stops. Maybe fuel saving to reduce it to 1 pit stop can work, yet my mediums were already pretty worn each time. While the AI drove more laps on softs than I did on mediums, always extending their lead.

At first I could only do 1:13 laps at best since the AI kept ramming me and diving in on me, dragging my lap times down to 1:17. Only after my first pit stop could I find some pace away from the AI. So maybe fuel saving at first will work, or pit early. Need to get away from the AI or can't race :/ Getting hit 5 times per lap is not fun.
You mean 2:10 ..
Flat out with medium i was lapping 2:01.
 
You mean 2:10 ..
Flat out with medium i was lapping 2:01.
Yeah 2:10, guess I'm just slow. I didn't do anything to the Bac Mono though and am generally not fast on sports tires. Problem is, already getting the bronze money, now I'm looking at wasting an hour if not able to get silver at least next time since you don't get any credits for getting bronze again. I still need 36 mil before the LCD changes again... Can't afford to try again ugh.

Why did they put these in missions with one time payouts. It's not like 1.2 mil per hour is going to screw up the economy. They would fall right in line with the WTC events for payouts and are a lot more interesting to repeat. PD just keeps making baffling design decisions.
 
I’ve gotten gold on all endurance races except Maggiore on Hard difficulty.

For Tsukuba, don’t bother with inters. Wets work just fine in inter conditions and will save you from an extra stop.

For Trial Mountain, refer to this guide.

For Autopolis, I fitted all weight reduction/handling/transmission upgrades plus a medium turbo, power limiter and BB controller to the S660. Do not fit aero parts. Set BB to -5. Run flat out until empty, then change tyres and take a full tank. Rinse and repeat until you are close to the end, then fill up enough to reach the line.

For Kyoto, I upgraded my R35 Nismo and ran a flat out 1 stop on Hards, pitting halfway through the race.

Deep Forest had me run the Focus Gr.B with Torque Split at 10/90, BB +5 and Hards and played with the fuel map to avoid refueling at all and just take a tyre change midway.

Alsace was the easiest for me. Ford GT40 Mk1 with 78 ECU, 70 Power Limiter and 198 ballast all the way up front. AI sucks at the long banked right and the uphill left towards the end of the lap. The backmarker Fiat 500 and Mini can help you by holding up the faster cars trying to lap them.

For Red Bull Ring, drag out your first two stints as long as possible before pitting for Wets. Inters may be used towards the end if your Wets are shot but the track is still too wet for your liking.
 
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Just tried my first one doing the vintage Alsace race. Pretty easy, think I won with a 30 second gap and I had like 6 laps of spare fuel. Stayed on Comfort Softs the whole race, only pitted once for fuel and didn't change tires. First pit was around the 20-25 min remaining mark. Top 2 AI pitted around the 30 min mark and then later pitted with like 5-10 mins left. Whole thing was about 24 laps I think and I had the fastest time uhh.. can't really remember what it was.

Used the 240Z Long Nose.
 
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Alsace right now it's a nightmare for me. I've tried so many cars and still nothing :banghead:

Went with the RCZ Road Car for Kyoto and man, talk about overkill! So much fuel and more than enough speed. I was actually thinking about getting a nice car and setting it up for a fun endurance race there, but in my curiosity I ended up doing a "test" race with the RCZ and, welp... as I said, overkill.
 
AI on hard.

Won it with the car fully tuned (all parts available) and using racing hards, inters and wet tyres. I just took out a bit of power to have 599pp.

As for the pitstops, since I went into this race without knowing the strategy, I literally just followed the AI's pitstop schedule aside from one-stop which I think was the right choice.

-1st pitstop I changed tyres by mistake, which made me lose a bit of time. This pit stop should be done only for fuel.
-2nd pitstop was for inters and fuel.
-3rd pitstop was for slick hards again.
-4th pitstop I noticed there were a few spots of darker blue in it (heavy rain) and changed for wet tyres, which proved to be the best choice as the track got really wet, the AI pit twice here, once for inters and then for wets.
-5th pitstop I changed into inters.
-6th and final pitstop, I just followed the AI and pit for slicks as the AI was really fast and catching up to me, I was afraid I would lose 27-28 seconds on the final 5-6 laps remaining.


In between this race I crashed twice, once, shamefully, against the pit entry wall (what is that thing made of?) which put my car stuck and the game had to reset it, lost a lot of time here, and then crashed once more in the track was fully wet in the final long right hander.

In the first few laps, I gained on the AI and even overtook him on track after the 1st round of pit-stops. But after this? The AI gained a huge boost in speed somehow and started to lap faster than me.

The thing is, ONLY one AI car had this happen which was the Blue Mazda of Kokubun. I literally LAPPED the entire field aside from him, and in fact, if it wasn't for traffic I would had him on my ass with less than a second gap. He was really that fast for some reason.
That AI is definitely not legit. It's just way too obvious that it has more than 600pp (I notice he uses soft tyres, but so did most others).
But if I didn't crash those 2 times, I definitely would've won by over 15 seconds (the one where I crash against the pitstop sign I lost over 10 seconds in there alone).

I was lapping consistently in the 1:00.xxx with only twice being able to get into the 59s (my fastest lap was a 59.9).
The AI had the fastest lap at 59.4...


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Hi guys, I need help on Autopolis and Alsace race endurance...
Which car, and tyres i need to use to take the gold?
And also...Ai setted on Hard?
Thx
 
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Not so much luck on the Deep Forest race lol Finished 9th. My fastest lap was about one second off the AI fastest, but I was on Racing Hards.

Also my 993 911 did not like that hairpin. I had factory gearing which was garbage for this; first was too low for hairpin and second was far too high. And every time I'd go around the hairpin, the rear would just swing out so I had to take it super wide.. and then towards the end I kept getting penalties for going too wide there.

Just overall sloppy in the second half. One AI tried to bulldoze me into the pits with him since I was on his left. I kept making all sorts of small mistakes.

Not exactly sure how I could win this one yet. I was 1+ min behind the leader and I only pitted once. Maybe with less big mistakes and fixing the hairpin issue.
 
To our faces:
Here ya go. The high paying races you all have been waiting for. You can make billions each week just enjoying these well though out provocative races.

Behind the curtains:
OK! lets show these terds who is really boss. Crank the AI up to 125, Make them Dale Earnhardt aggressive. If they are doing really well tweak there traction and break distance to ensure they get a time out. I don't want these punks completing this race 5th or better more then once a day no matter how many times they try.
 
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Im not either mate, gotta be very careful in the wet with brake application otherwise front wheels will lock up.

Congrats on winning it, was a fun race.
The ai could certainly get out the way more often.

I am not just having trouble with brakes, even just driving in a straight line.
I am feathering the throttle due to wheel spin and fighting to keep the car going straight.
Otherwise, I know the normal wet racing technique.
Brake earlier, stay off the kerbs, touch the white lines if you want to die.

As for the AI
I wonder if PD even bothered to test any endurance races like this one.
They would've seen the AI not moving for blue flags issue

At times they do move, its just on the straight.
Guess the issue is compounded by the tracks overall width and nature of concussive turns for pretty much 80% of its length.
 
I got to first and went off in the last lap costing me the win, but seems pretty straight forward. The AI pits an extra time for inters to wets when you can just go wets and skip the extra stop. You’ll be a little slower at first but save like 30 seconds or whatever.
 
crashed once more in the track was fully wet in the final long right hander.

In the first few laps, I gained on the AI and even overtook him on track after the 1st round of pit-stops. But after this? The AI gained a huge boost in speed somehow and started to lap faster than me.

He was really that fast for some reason.

Yeah he is fast, even in my game he was on my butt IIRC.

That AI is definitely not legit. It's just way too obvious that it has more than 600pp (I notice he uses soft tyres, but so did most others).

Which is why I said the AI cheats.
I can get 59s FL in at times, but doing so burns out the tires far quicker, the AI also seems to use less fuel while being able to pump in those quick times
 
Doesnt sound like the ai were cheating.. personally starting to hate that word being thrown around casually.

You can race fairly easy on track 1/3 wet with race hards and you should use inters for 2/3.
Race doesn't get wet enough for full wets in my experience.
It's not that the race can't get wet enough for full wets to be the fastest tire, but it almost certainly won't stay fully wet long enough to make up the time loss from pitting twice to get onto the wets and back to inters. I won fairly comfortably last night because rain came, everyone went to Inters, then the rain briefly stopped and the AIs all switched back to slicks but I could easily see on the radar it was going to rain again so I stayed out. Eventually made a regular full service stop staying on Inters, then the rain picked up enough to fully wet the track, so the AIs all pitted for Wets, were running about 3-4 seconds a lap faster, and then the rain stopped 5 laps later and they all went back to Inters. Congrats, you gained 15 seconds on track and lost a whole lap in the pits. :confused:
 
Not so much luck on the Deep Forest race lol Finished 9th. My fastest lap was about one second off the AI fastest, but I was on Racing Hards.

Also my 993 911 did not like that hairpin. I had factory gearing which was garbage for this; first was too low for hairpin and second was far too high. And every time I'd go around the hairpin, the rear would just swing out so I had to take it super wide.. and then towards the end I kept getting penalties for going too wide there.

Just overall sloppy in the second half. One AI tried to bulldoze me into the pits with him since I was on his left. I kept making all sorts of small mistakes.

Not exactly sure how I could win this one yet. I was 1+ min behind the leader and I only pitted once. Maybe with less big mistakes and fixing the hairpin issue.
You can cheese it with the Tomahawk, I completed 54 laps there lol.
This setup https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ssway-wtc600-race.407346/page-3#post-13676214 one pit stop and done.
 
Human Comedy

Yeah, Comedy indeed

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This is purely for shenanigans. My setup is trash. Like, REALLY trash. There's a video in the Tokyo WTC 600 thread about a guy doing 280 km/h in a 446pp 2J. It's way more efficient, but I've no idea how he managed that since he didn't show the gear setup, so inspired by the "glitch" with the Tomahawk, I just tried to create my own "glitch" with this car.


Some theorycrafting: I think the game gets confused with 3 short gears on the Tomahawk. "bro where are yours gears? This is too slow. This ain't gonna work!", sending the PP way low. But the Tomahawk is so stupidly fast that it really doesn't matter at all.

So I tried to apply the same idea: 3 short gears so close to each other that they might as well not exist. Since the 2J has excellent accelaration, all you need is to get to the maximum speed quickly and that's possible working with only 4th and 5th gear. And that's basically it. Besides some wacky and probably very unnecessary suspension and LSD changes, the gear is the main part of the "glitch". It does limit the car at a maximum of 171 km/h (that's why I said my setup is trash), but 171 km/h is all you need to complete Alsace.

Why it works? First, the accelaration on this car is insane so it's easy to reach top speed. Second, 171 km/h is more than enough to leave everyone behind. I think the Mercedes Gullwing could probably reach you in a very long straight, but such straight doesn't exist on Alsace so you're literally the fatest car in the race.

To be honest, although it's limited to 171 km/h, the race is locked at 1 hour anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a deal.

It's not bad on slow turns and you need to do 3 stops for fuel, but since you're so far ahead there's no problem at all. No need to change tires because even though they're screeching everytime, there's no wear on them.

The only thing you need to buy from GT Auto is ballast.

WARNING: TURN OFF THE GAME SOUND. I REPEAT. TURN OFF THE GAME SOUND. At least the engine noise. Why? Because at 171 km/h the car is ALWAYS at high revs. It's screaming for help more speed or a 6th gear. EVERYTIME. It's maddening.
Put some music, movies, races...

"Man just give me the setup I don't like this race, those missions, the AI, I hate this game and I hate you even more, holy Chaparral just get me out of here!"

OK!

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The race: you will get 1st in the first lap, don't even worry about it. After first lap put Fuel Map to 6. When you pit for the first time the AI will probably be 40 seconds behind, more than enough for you to pit and still be in first because there's no need to change tires. Fuel last for 7 laps, so 3 stops during the whole race. It's only a matter of patience.




With all of that being said, I strongly recommend an actual car. This race is fun! I know the AI is a little "messy", but damn, driving the Aston Martin DB3S with that sweet light green and a sunset on the horizon is just too beautiful.
 
Alsace right now it's a nightmare for me. I've tried so many cars and still nothing :banghead:

Went with the RCZ Road Car for Kyoto and man, talk about overkill! So much fuel and more than enough speed. I was actually thinking about getting a nice car and setting it up for a fun endurance race there, but in my curiosity I ended up doing a "test" race with the RCZ and, welp... as I said, overkill.
For those who need help with Alsace, try this:



It's kinda weird since you have to stay in 3rd gear the whole race. At first it'll feel slow but if you maintain speed through the corners and pick up speed on the downhills you'll win in the end. I think I got out in front around lap 10 or so.
 
For those who need help with Alsace, try this:



It's kinda weird since you have to stay in 3rd gear the whole race. At first it'll feel slow but if you maintain speed through the corners and pick up speed on the downhills you'll win in the end. I think I got out in front around lap 10 or so.

Oh damn. That setup literally makes my tune even more useless. :lol:
 
It's not that the race can't get wet enough for full wets to be the fastest tire, but it almost certainly won't stay fully wet long enough to make up the time loss from pitting twice to get onto the wets and back to inters. I won fairly comfortably last night because rain came, everyone went to Inters, then the rain briefly stopped and the AIs all switched back to slicks but I could easily see on the radar it was going to rain again so I stayed out. Eventually made a regular full service stop staying on Inters, then the rain picked up enough to fully wet the track, so the AIs all pitted for Wets, were running about 3-4 seconds a lap faster, and then the rain stopped 5 laps later and they all went back to Inters. Congrats, you gained 15 seconds on track and lost a whole lap in the pits. :confused:
Edit, might have misunderstood.

I never got to use full wets, not sure i even had the tyre. But i can happily say i was equal on pace whatever tyre they were on or quicker in the wet. As for the dry, running hards and doing consistent 59-1:00 was fairly easy..

I pitted once or twice by accident, seen rain come over, what looked to be set in type of rain. Soon as i threw inters on, i could see it was gonna stop. The ai stayed on slicks while i had to pit again, was very nervous at that point whether i just destroyed my race.

But thankfully i noticed the ai made similar mistakes later on. I never noticed any sort of cheating ai though, at times they came across as idiots but i also made the same mistakes 🤣🤣

Either way, won comfortably even though i was nudged off onto the grass a few times.
 
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Think I am done with this Tsukuba for a while. First time I came P2 by like 35 seconds behind P1.

Second attempt was an issue of pit stops. Even conserving fuel for the first stint using 1 on the straight and 3 everywhere else in an attempt to wait until the rain was coming before making my first pit for fuel, all the while losing time to P1. So much so and at one point I was an extra pit stop in I was getting the blue flags. Needless to say, I showed the AI as much blue flag respect as they showed me

Didn't work, still had to pit for fuel, no tires. No more than five minutes later the sky started to open up so I pitted again for inters. Eventually the AI did too. So it dried up but I saw more coming so I stayed out on the inters until it started raining again saving myself a pit stop. Eventually had to pit for fuel and got new inters. After it dried up again I was in P3, P2 pitted and I took over P2 some 18 seconds behind P1. Track is dry now but with less than 10 mins left I have to stay out. Eventually P1 pits for tires and no fuel and comes out ~5 seconds behind me with ~5 mins left. I'm on worn inters and he's on new softs, needless to say he caught me in less than two laps.

I defended like a SoB and was about to cross the line to start the last lap and he PIT manuvered me into the wall. Ended up finishing P2 some 11 seconds back and barely in front of P3. I was so ****. And, of course, since I'd already finished P2 once before no reward.

If I lose the race for whatever reason then so be it (I spun twice on my first P2). But when I get crashed out by the AI on basically the last lap, I have a much harder time dealing with that. Drove for 59.5 minutes, attacking, stratigizing, defending, and crashed out like I wasn't even there.

If they made these events and not missions, there would be much more motivation to do them again and again. I have better ways to spend an hour of gaming time.
 
Think I am done with this Tsukuba for a while. First time I came P2 by like 35 seconds behind P1.

Second attempt was an issue of pit stops. Even conserving fuel for the first stint using 1 on the straight and 3 everywhere else in an attempt to wait until the rain was coming before making my first pit for fuel, all the while losing time to P1. So much so and at one point I was an extra pit stop in I was getting the blue flags. Needless to say, I showed the AI as much blue flag respect as they showed me

Didn't work, still had to pit for fuel, no tires. No more than five minutes later the sky started to open up so I pitted again for inters. Eventually the AI did too. So it dried up but I saw more coming so I stayed out on the inters until it started raining again saving myself a pit stop. Eventually had to pit for fuel and got new inters. After it dried up again I was in P3, P2 pitted and I took over P2 some 18 seconds behind P1. Track is dry now but with less than 10 mins left I have to stay out. Eventually P1 pits for tires and no fuel and comes out ~5 seconds behind me with ~5 mins left. I'm on worn inters and he's on new softs, needless to say he caught me in less than two laps.

I defended like a SoB and was about to cross the line to start the last lap and he PIT manuvered me into the wall. Ended up finishing P2 some 11 seconds back and barely in front of P3. I was so ****. And, of course, since I'd already finished P2 once before no reward.

If I lose the race for whatever reason then so be it (I spun twice on my first P2). But when I get crashed out by the AI on basically the last lap, I have a much harder time dealing with that. Drove for 59.5 minutes, attacking, stratigizing, defending, and crashed out like I wasn't even there.

If they made these events and not missions, there would be much more motivation to do them again and again. I have better ways to spend an hour of gaming time.
Can't agree more. There is no incentive to try again with the dealerships changing cars so fast and not getting any credits if you can't get the next medal at least.

A lot of these come to a bit of luck, either with how the rain plays out or how badly the AI behaves during the race. If they were events then finishing 2nd again at least gives you a good reward and incentive to keep trying. The GT3 Cup at Daytona was hard, but at least every attempt upped my balance, so I kept on plugging away at it until I got it. This missions should have stuck to the silly things, cone challenges, drag races, pass the moving cones, and the one lap nonsense should never have been there. Wait 77 seconds to pass the whole field in one lap...
 
I can see how this thread started. I can only manage P3 so far.....

Tried again today - in the first attempt the P1 AI ran fastest lap at 1.00.xx, then, when the rain was at it's heaviest, he ran a 59.9!
 
I managed to gold my last mission today. Here's a short summary for all of them:

Tsukuba - fairly easy race. The AI are a little trigger-happy with the pistops just as conditions cross over to inter/full wet, while it's very doable to stick to the sub-optimal tyres for the 2 laps or so. Overall I won by nearly a lap, with most of that time coming from doing 2 pitstops less than the AI.

Trial Mountain - simple race. Just pit every 20 minutes. Fuel mix 1 all the way. If you struggle with this one keep in mind that the race is limited by weight and power, not PP and the car doesn't necessarily have to be stock, so you can buy upgrades for things like brakes, clutch, etc. Theoretically you could also buy power/weight upgrades and then knock that back down with the ECU or ballast, although I'm not sure that would help with anything.

Autopolis - I tried with the Copen, since it was the only car I had and I could add more power within the PP limit, but it just ate up the front tyres way too fast. Switched to the Honda S660. Fuel mix 1 all the way, 2 stops.

Kyoto - I used the Honda Civic touring car. Did a 2 stop medium -> medium -> medium, fuel mix 1. A bit like the Copen, the car used up its front tyres rather quickly, but it had the pace to make up for it. Be aware that there are some cars that do 0-stops, so you might end up quite a bit behind after the last stop, but their tyres fall off the cliff by the end and you can gain multiple seconds per lap.

Deep Forest - I tried quite a few cars for this one, although the race was probably far easier than I thought. I ended up going with the Alfa 155 DTM with a slight de-tune to keep it in the PP limit. 1 stop, fuel mix 1, hard tyres only. What fooled me was the Taycan up in front, which was just walking away from the pack at an insane rate. The Alfa was the only car I tried that could keep up and pass it on track during the first stint. In the end the Taycan did way more stops that seemed longer than the ICE cars and ended up somewhere in the mid-pack. I managed to lap the field around 15-20 minutes from the end, as my car was significantly faster than anyone else.

Alsace - this one felt quite tough, but turned out easier than expected. I used the 11 million 300 SL with medium tyres and some power upgrades. Only 1 stop - needed to play around with the fuel mix to extend the stints. The tyres are not a limitation at all - I didn't switch them at all and only used around 20%, so you could probably make the softs work as well. The reason why the race was easier than expected was the AI pitting 5-10 mintues from the end, saving you a good 20 seconds if you go for the 1-stop.

Red Bull Ring - quite similar to the Tsukuba race - the AI made an unnecessary pit stop for full wet tyres for the 2 laps of actually heavy rain. I decided to stick to inters, which was tougher than Tsukuba, as the car aquaplaned a few times on the straights, so I had to be real careful to keep it on the road. Didn't go past ~200km/h on the straights. I also delayed the switch back to slicks for 3-4 laps compared to the AI, as the track still seemed quite wet. The AI lost some 20+ seconds during those laps, so I consider that to be a good decision. I ended up lapping the field, used the Corvette Gr. 3.

Maggiore - definitely the most intense race. I did the 2 stop with mediums and used the Mazda RX-Vision Gr. 3. You can use fuel mix 1 all the way and pretty much drive flat out thoughout the race. The main competitor was 5 seconds up the road by the time I got though to P2 and I managed to close in by about 2 seconds in the first stint. I delayed the first pit stop by 1 lap compared to him, which cost me a little bit of time, but I did have slightly fresher tyres, which made a big difference toward the end of the 2nd stint, as I entered the pits right on the other guy's rear bumper. The Mazda's seemingly superior fuel economy, along with the fact that I took on more fuel in the first pitstop meant I left the pits quite a bit ahead, but in P2, 10 seconds behind the top 1-stopping car which turned out not to be an issue, as I cought up at a rate of 5 seconds per lap.

Overall, a great set of events. Looking forward to more.
 
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I did the Kyoto Driving Park one today, where it's a 550PP. Used the Amemiya RX7 which after putting SM tires on it needed to detune it some to get it below the 550, maybe like 20PP total. I don't remember everything, but basically just some increased downforce in the back and power reduced to like 91%.

Was able to win that one by ~30 seconds. I did a two pit strat for SM tires at ~20 min marks. Car is great on fuel so it was a no-fuel first stop.

I'm kinda surprised I won because the NSX-R and Super did a one stopper. The NSX-R didn't pit until almost 40 mins in and still had 48% fuel! Must've been some mad savings. After my second pit for tires and fuel I came out in P4 about seven seconds behind the leader but with the new tires was able to make it up pretty quick and put a gap.

That was a fun race; if anyone is looking for a car to use, this RX did the job.

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