The Human Comedy 6 - Pre1979, Alsace

[Talon16]

Didn't see a thread for this one specifically. Share your strats here. Seeing some people using the Chaparral but for those like me, who don't have it, share what you're using, strats, results, etc.

TL;DR = Lightly tuned 308 GTB, fuel save, one pit at 30 min mark, be very smooth, profit.

I just won this one yesterday using the Ferrari 308 GTB. Honestly, I wasn't too keen on this one but I scanned my garage and figured I'd give it a go. My tuning was as follows (449.13PP):

Comfort Soft tires
Customizable LSD

Initial torque: 10
Acceleration Sensitivity: 10
Braking Sensitivity: 60

Ballast:

45kg at Position -50

Power Restrictor

75%

Brake Balance Controller

-5

Gave it a go last night and was having a hard time. But, you just need laps as these old cars handle quite poorly/differently. You just need to be very smooth on the gas, brake, and wheel. Once you get used to it, it becomes natural on what you can and can't get away with. For the above, this is a one stop strat. The tires will be fine, but you will need to fuel save. Run 1 on the straights, and 2, 3, 4, on the turns and such. Some of the tighter 2nd gear turns take them in 3rd. Short shifting is also required but the car still accelerates enough to keep up with the front runners. Obviously you need to make it to the 30 min mark on one tank and this takes some paying attention. And as much as I try not to, I am not ashamed and have no qualms about it, I used TC set to 1.

At the start I got to P5 within a couple of laps and we all settled in. Was behind a Coutach and in front of a Muria. Fuel save and keep pace. Eventually some of the AI pits and I'm now in P3 behind some weird Merc and the 2000 GT. Same old same old. They both pit at like the 33 min mark which makes me super happy as I am hoping they'll have to pit twice. I am fuel saving and pit on the lap right after the 30 min mark for fuel 1% and tires which barely had any red but I got new ones anyway.

Pop out back in like P8 but pass a couple cars quick. Back to chasing the Countach, Merc, and Toyota. Countach pits and I get passed by a VW bus (might be the most depressing thing I've ever said about GT). Maybe he dropped an LS1 into it because it was super fast, but he had to pit a lot so I wasn't worried, and he did shortly after. Caught up to the Merc/Toyota again and passed the Merc easy as he was held up by a lapped car and both refused to come off the racing line, even on a straight haha. The Merc then pit. Eventually pass the Toyota and am leading with ~15 mins left. Then, I made my first mistake of the whole race.

After that crest going down to that last tight right then left before the finish, the car had a little too much steering input when I hit the brakes and it started sliding. Ended up keeping it straight but hit/scraped up against the wall 'wall-rider-style'. Cost me about 3 seconds which allowed the Toyota back through and I was now down by ~1.5 seconds. I would catch him at some points and he would walk away at others. Finally, I caught him at that same turn and passed. He kept me in his sights until about 5 mins left and he pit.

With three laps left I was up on a Renault by about 12 seconds. So I did some fuel saving just in case, keep everything clean and smooth and won the race by ~15 seconds. On a race I never really intended to do as I didn't think it would be fun, it went from frustrating to fun pretty quick.

I was so happy to be won-and-done with this I changed the oil in the Ferrari prematurely and even washed it (which I never do)... to likely be put away and never be driven again haha

Good luck.

 

[Autograss_Mad]

I did it yesterday comfortable enough, '65 mini with medium turbo and power restrictor 1 stop comfort softs

 

[SrGS]

I used the Nissan 240Z on this one, comfort soft tires, fuel mixture 1 for the entire race, no short shifting needed. Only 1 pit stop for refueling, didn't even change the tires. I installled a full customizable suspension, differential, transmission and all the aero parts. Quite a lot of car modifications for this race, these older cars are very challenging to drive, but it made the 240Z handle very well.

I was not so fast at the straights, at the beginning of the race the Mercedes 300 SL and the Toyota 2000 GT AI drivers were pulling away from me, but I reached them at the corners, specially the high banking one. I was able to keep a lot of speed due to my high downforce setting.

The race was pretty smooth, I finished 40+ seconds ahead of second place, I might do it again with another car sometime.

 

[Nuschel01]

I easily won it with a 917K that had it's gearbox set to go ~120 in 1./2./3./4. gear and 170 in 5th gear

 

[FrankieBeats]

I used the Aston Martin DB3S with softs on the rear and mediums on the front. Made the car easier to drive and also lowered PP so I could run more HP. The fun part of this was I was able to run down the front cars on pace over about 25 minutes before they pitted. Ultimately won by a good bit because the front cars run a slower pace after you pass them but it was a thrilling first half.

 

[pedrocor]

Will give it a try on the newly purchased Alpine A220

 

[hollowkatt]

Will give it a try on the newly purchased Alpine A220

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

I ran Fuel Mix 1 for the first stint, stayed out 1 lap longer than 1st and 2nd. When I pitted I had a +40 second gap to them. Was in the lead when I came out of the pits. Tried to run a Fuel 4 Mix for a while but didn't like that, so swapped back to Fuel 1 after 2-3 laps of 4.
Realized that everyone behind me was pitting again so pitted again, kept fuel mix 1, no tires again b/c you really don't wear them out, and won by just under 2 minutes at the end.

Not a very challenging race in terms of competition, could definitely make it that way by running more lean if you wanted to, but the fun for me was competing against myself and the track for consistently low lap times.

 

[danhighway]

I basically put as much on the Honda S800 as I could get away with and had a blast. Soft tires aren’t an issue with x1 degradation and it’s so light (and underpowered) that you only need to pit half way through the race without any fuel saving.

 

[notanon]

I used the DB3S for this with just a little transmission and power adjustment to come in under the PP limit and cleared it pretty easily. I hope we get a new series of classic car events at some point, as this really highlighted how out of place so many of these cars are with the rest of the game's focus.

The glitched 2J is an easy mode option for anyone that just wants to push past this event.

 

[Christian_C]

Something that’s been consistent for me on all these Human Comedy missions (only last two incomplete right now) is that the first half of the race until the AI pit can be very close. Or you can even be losing time.

Yet post the AI’s first pitstop they will fall off a cliff!

In every event so far I’ve been either marginally ahead (<10 seconds) or actually behind the leader before I make my first pitstop, I‘ve even seen the gap extend out to some extent.

But post the AI‘s first stop the situation totally inverts and I pull enormous gaps.

Tsukuba
Kyoto
Alsace
Deep Forest

They were all close races or I was losing until the first stop. Yet in all the above my winning margin was near or over 1 minute by the flag.

So my advice here is to just keep going even if you’re behind. I think if you’re even within 30 seconds of the leader before you make the first stop then you should keep going as you’ll probably find out that you win.

 

[GTR Racer 5]

Yeah I agree, I did it in the 250 GTO, to you know get my 20 million credits worth of driving the car! I’d gotten 10 seconds on the 300SL before putting at 30~minute mark for just fuel of course, an then after that the AI just seemed to of dropped off a cliff and I won’t be race by over a minute. God knows where there pace went, same I noticed on the Tsubuka race too.

 

[The_It_Jojo]

I've used the 240Z, it has a comfortable power and low fuel consumption - the only problem I had was that it was quite snappy in 4th gear on fast corners, though it's manageable if you are cautious on how you use your steering.

Only had to pit once for fuel, kept fuel mix always at 1, overall it was not too difficult, though the Sambabus of death was quite a fun sight to see.

 

[marc9600]

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

I ran Fuel Mix 1 for the first stint, stayed out 1 lap longer than 1st and 2nd. When I pitted I had a +40 second gap to them. Was in the lead when I came out of the pits. Tried to run a Fuel 4 Mix for a while but didn't like that, so swapped back to Fuel 1 after 2-3 laps of 4.
Realized that everyone behind me was pitting again so pitted again, kept fuel mix 1, no tires again b/c you really don't wear them out, and won by just under 2 minutes at the end.

Not a very challenging race in terms of competition, could definitely make it that way by running more lean if you wanted to, but the fun for me was competing against myself and the track for consistently low lap times.

Thanks for the settings, I had tried this race a couple of times with the Mini and then the Ferrari 308 but only managed second, whereas on all the other missions getting gold was relatively straightforward (haven't done the dreaded Maggiore yet). As you say, the Alpine 220 does make the race much too easy (won by over a minute and a half) but it was fun trying to set new fastest laps and the car is an absolute joy to drive (also used it for the Le Mans 30 minute race), definitely the best of the legendaries that I have purchased so far ! (and a great deal at only 330,000 credits).

 

[pedrocor]

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

I ran Fuel Mix 1 for the first stint, stayed out 1 lap longer than 1st and 2nd. When I pitted I had a +40 second gap to them. Was in the lead when I came out of the pits. Tried to run a Fuel 4 Mix for a while but didn't like that, so swapped back to Fuel 1 after 2-3 laps of 4.
Realized that everyone behind me was pitting again so pitted again, kept fuel mix 1, no tires again b/c you really don't wear them out, and won by just under 2 minutes at the end.

Not a very challenging race in terms of competition, could definitely make it that way by running more lean if you wanted to, but the fun for me was competing against myself and the track for consistently low lap times.

I think I found a mini glitch by accident.
Comfort hards
Left the suspension settings untouched, Aero 150-160 as you suggested.
ECU at 82%, Restrictor at 70% and NO ballast at all.
Sits at 436.73pp, bit more or less with the ECU and it goes up over 480pp.

 

[SrGS]

I think I found a mini glitch by accident.
Comfort hards
Left the suspension settings untouched, Aero 150-160 as you suggested.
ECU at 82%, Restrictor at 70% and NO ballast at all.
Sits at 436.73pp, bit more or less with the ECU and it goes up over 480pp.

I think it's because when you increase the power, the top speed that the car can reach is also increased (as expected), so the game can calculate a few more variables to give us the performance points. For example the rotational G, on low power cars it doesn't show any value for 240 km/h, because the car can't reach this speed, so this variable is not considered when the performance points are calculated.

As soon as you upgrade it, and the game understands that the car's top speed is over 240 km/h, it considers this new information, signifcantly changing the performance points. Same goes the other way, tuning a car so the power is reduced to a level it can't reach a certain speed, the game disconsiders some variables, making the calculations for performance points simpler. I believe that's why the pp can fluctuate so much when making fine adjustments.

I used the rotational G as an example, but there is probably more to it.

That's my guess!

 

[Jump_Ace]

I did it in the Jaguar E-Type Coupe. I should've gone for something a little easier/less stressful. Not seeing the AI tires and fuel, I wasn't sure when they were gonna pit. That Samba Bus though.....whaaaa? He pitted starting the last lap thankfully.


Jerome

 

[RuddRacer]

I did it in the Jaguar E-Type Coupe. I should've gone for something a little easier/less stressful. Not seeing the AI tires and fuel, I wasn't sure when they were gonna pit. That Samba Bus though.....whaaaa? He pitted starting the last lap thankfully.


Jerome

@Jump_Ace did you use to stock settings on the Jag?

I refuse to use the 2J but having problems finding a decent car (I can't tune for the life of me,).

I have a 308 with praianos setup but I have to use CM's on it for 450pp because somehow it has every possible upgrade installed. Its doable if the AI spins me out less than 3 times, but the CM's don't allow for much in the way of defensive maneuvering.

 

[Jump_Ace]

@Jump_Ace did you use to stock settings on the Jag?

I refuse to use the 2J but having problems finding a decent car (I can't tune for the life of me,).

I have a 308 with praianos setup but I have to use CM's on it for 450pp because somehow it has every possible upgrade installed. Its doable if the AI spins me out less than 3 times, but the CM's don't allow for much in the way of defensive maneuvering.

I just randomly picked this car not knowing what I was getting into. Thankfully I did a tune first Here ya go: LINK

Jerome

 

[pedrocor]

I think it's because when you increase the power, the top speed that the car can reach is also increased (as expected), so the game can calculate a few more variables to give us the performance points. For example the rotational G, on low power cars it doesn't show any value for 240 km/h, because the car can't reach this speed, so this variable is not considered when the performance points are calculated.

As soon as you upgrade it, and the game understands that the car's top speed is over 240 km/h, it considers this new information, signifcantly changing the performance points. Same goes the other way, tuning a car so the power is reduced to a level it can't reach a certain speed, the game disconsiders some variables, making the calculations for performance points simpler. I believe that's why the pp can fluctuate so much when making fine adjustments.

I used the rotational G as an example, but there is probably more to it.

That's my guess!

But if I go both a 1% down OR UP on ECU, also goes almost 50pp up.

Apart from that, still have a Samba bus going 10 seconds a lap faster.

 

[Welpet]

Since I am a very slow driver I tried with a 300 SEL 6.8 AMG, that was enough for a win. Not bad, spend less than cr 600.000 for the car including detuning and got cr. 1.200.000 for the win.

 

[Grayfox]

What engine is in that damn Type 2?
It blows past like you're standing still.

 

[The_It_Jojo]

What engine is in that damn Type 2?
It blows past like you're standing still.

Probably the one on the Porsche 996 GT3 if I have to guess, though the Sambabus is going to pit 3 times during the race, you should be good if you go for a one stopper.

 

[Grayfox]

Probably the one on the Porsche 996 GT3 if I have to guess, though the Sambabus is going to pit 3 times during the race, you should be good if you go for a one stopper.

I came in 9th after it punted me into the wall on the banked turn early in the race when I was 4th and I never caught up again.

 

[GTboyz]

Probably the one on the Porsche 996 GT3 if I have to guess, though the Sambabus is going to pit 3 times during the race, you should be good if you go for a one stopper.

I bet it's the 964. I don't remember the Sambabus beinb able to use the GT3 engine.

 

[Boxster]

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

I ran Fuel Mix 1 for the first stint, stayed out 1 lap longer than 1st and 2nd. When I pitted I had a +40 second gap to them. Was in the lead when I came out of the pits. Tried to run a Fuel 4 Mix for a while but didn't like that, so swapped back to Fuel 1 after 2-3 laps of 4.
Realized that everyone behind me was pitting again so pitted again, kept fuel mix 1, no tires again b/c you really don't wear them out, and won by just under 2 minutes at the end.

Not a very challenging race in terms of competition, could definitely make it that way by running more lean if you wanted to, but the fun for me was competing against myself and the track for consistently low lap times.

Thanks for this setup. I was struggling in other cars because of lack of grip. This worked as a charm.

 

[Grayfox]

I just did it again, and won

I have no regrets about what I did, I was 2s behind him 4laps before when I was nearly pitted, plus I was not doing this event again if I came 2nd.

 

[RuddRacer]

I just randomly picked this car not knowing what I was getting into. Thankfully I did a tune first Here ya go: LINK

Jerome

Thanks for the setup but I managed to win in the Ferrari before seeing this post. I really like the Jag and will try out once I complete the remainder of the endurance missions.

 

[Carrera1963]

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

Great tune, comfort softs are a lot better then the hards, and the ballast really helps with the balance.

I’ve paused halfway through, but running FM2/FM1, single stop at lap 12, and it should be a 24-25 lap race.

Should finish a minute or so ahead of P2, and will have lapped the Fiat 500 about 6 times 😂

 

[AndrewMorrell]

That's what I used on mine. ECU and Restrictor set to 72
Ride Height set to 150 F & R
Comfort Softs
Ballast set to 200 at position -30/-32
Front Aero = 150
Rear Aero = 160

I ran Fuel Mix 1 for the first stint, stayed out 1 lap longer than 1st and 2nd. When I pitted I had a +40 second gap to them. Was in the lead when I came out of the pits. Tried to run a Fuel 4 Mix for a while but didn't like that, so swapped back to Fuel 1 after 2-3 laps of 4.
Realized that everyone behind me was pitting again so pitted again, kept fuel mix 1, no tires again b/c you really don't wear them out, and won by just under 2 minutes at the end.

Not a very challenging race in terms of competition, could definitely make it that way by running more lean if you wanted to, but the fun for me was competing against myself and the track for consistently low lap times.

Thank you so much for this setup. I took it easy as I learned the circuit, then extended my lead to win by over a minute. What flabbergasted me was the aggressive pace of the Sambabus!

 

[UltimateLurker]

Does anyone have the correct 2J tune for this? Nothing I try seems to work.