The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

Their biggest problem will be, probably, constant radius corners. No matter how clever their differentials... unless they can transfer a lot of torque to the outside rear tire.

That said, considering everyone is limited in how much front downforce they can carry, it could be well possible that Nissan isn't going to be significantly handicapped in this regard.


Surprised to see such conventional suspension (at least at the back) for such an advanced design.

Looks a lot like the Deltawing solution. The rear end of the car is very light... like the front end of the Deltawing, so they can go light on the hardware. I was half-expecting them to use MacPherson struts back there... :D
 
Entry understeer, who knows. But on corner exit all four tires have power going to them so it shouldn't matter.

So in effect... it's a 4WD off turns but FWD everywhere else? Also I thought the power levels were independent (outside wheel may not necessarily have as much power going to it as inside) or am I going totally nuts?
 
Thanks.

Looking at the smooth design it seems a car with particularly low drag but will be interesting to see how Nissan will deal with natural understeer of FF cars, without major flaps on front end.
I bet the car will basically grab into corners with its wider front end. People were also sceptical about the DeltaWing regarding understeer and that thing grips fantastic. I'm not surprised when the car performs better than anyone thinks, I trust Nissan with unusual concepts.
 
So in effect... it's a 4WD off turns but FWD everywhere else? Also I thought the power levels were independent (outside wheel may not necessarily have as much power going to it as inside) or am I going totally nuts?
The torque vectoring in front can send more power to the outside tire, which I think also helps with understeer. Then under acceleration the hybrid system kicks in and it becomes AWD.
 
I think their biggest problem will be the drivers.

Not that they are bad, but the driver squads from Audi, Porsche and Toyota are better.
Other teams have ex F1 drivers and expert P1 drivers but Lucas and Jean are no longer rookies this year, they did well in P2 I don't think they'll be off pace.

What really makes the difference at Le Mans is the team. Audi can change every part of the car in minutes. They are still the best on this sort of stuff.

Nissan need 3 cars on track to have a chance.
 
All while driving the one and only GT-R in the field. Yeah, I'm not so sure the other drivers are on THAT much of a different level.
 
What really makes the difference at Le Mans is the team. Audi can change every part of the car in minutes. They are still the best on this sort of stuff.

This is where it's at. Once things start breaking down, proven designs work better than over-engineering.

BTW, how will the front tires hold, given the task to handle both power AND steering?
 
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Correct They haven't.
I guess podium finishes don't count for you (maybe "win" was indeed phrased wrong).
Ordonez was 2nd in the P2 2011 and 3rd 2013, by the way with Mardenborough and Krumm at his side.
Mardenborough also has a lot of experience in Formula cars now, which are quite similar to drive.
 
I guess podium finishes don't count for you (maybe "win" was indeed phrased wrong).
Ordonez was 2nd in the P2 2011 and 3rd 2013, by the way with Mardenborough and Krumm at his side.
Mardenborough also has a lot of experience in Formula cars now, which are quite similar to drive.
I was agreeing with your post, they haven't won Le Mans in LMP2.
 
Even Audi didn't win their first time out. Neither has Toyota, or the Porsche 919. Come to think of it the Porsche GT1 and 917 didn't win their first times out, either. 956 dominated its first run, though.
 
Michael Krumm has an interview with motorsport-total here. He confirms hes only in the car up to Le Mans "for developing". Then hes back to Super GT. He says not many long runs have been done so far. Torque steer is still present, feels like any fwd car. They ask about Sebring and if comparing times to Audi is on their mind, but Krumm says they wont be trying to match Audi and will concentrate on their own program.
 
Michael Krumm has an interview with motorsport-total here. He confirms hes only in the car up to Le Mans "for developing". Then hes back to Super GT. He says not many long runs have been done so far. Torque steer is still present, feels like any fwd car. They ask about Sebring and if comparing times to Audi is on their mind, but Krumm says they wont be trying to match Audi and will concentrate on their own program.
Torque steer could be their main problem now, how they will solve that has to be seen.
I suspect they choosed FF configuration to gain more room on the rear end to maximize extraction of air, improving ground effect.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if they are the faster on the straight. It really seems a low drag machine.
 
Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Intercontinental_Le_Mans_Cup

The real issue is that LMP2 is a Pro-Am category and the Academy winners have been the AM's. Now it just to see how they fare in a Pro only category.



I think Mario Andretti said it best. "If you can drive, you can drive. Period."
Yes really I'm sure if you look at the previous results for Le mans you'll see that and thanks for linking a wiki article about a championship I already knew about?
 
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